The issue is simple. We are attempting to normalize a mental illness. Period. The fact that this has now become ‘trendy’ where we are enforcing and approving these measures in children, is beyond appalling.
The issue is simple. We are attempting to normalize a mental illness. Period. The fact that this has now become ‘trendy’ where we are enforcing and approving these measures in children, is beyond appalling.
Just like we are trying to normalize obesity. The Target stores have been pushing the "fat women are normal" philosophy for a couple of years. In the women's section, there are various pictures of obese women wearing clothing. One is a black woman laying on her side wearing a 2 piece bathing suit with her huge belly hanging over. It may not be as serious as transgender surgery, but the message is the same: we are to march in lockstep and accept whatever they deign is normal.
Your simple explanation does not begin to explain the apparent explosion in transgenderism. Why have so many suddenly become mentally ill? I am 76 and I have never known a transgendered person, but I cannot wish away what I now see every day on the internet.
It’s the internet and peer pressure, which we didn’t have growing up. It has also been suggested that the massive increase in vaccines has altered something biologically in our children as autism has also exploded since the 80’s. I think CHD had something on this. The article said many of these kids are also on the spectrum with issues. Unintended consequences of screwing with nature.
There is no ‘explosion’ in mental illness (other than making the socially trending of this acceptable). Consider that, historically, there have always been tomboys, correct? I suppose if you ask any one of them at the age of 11 if they would like to be boys, they would say yes. Perhaps the difference now is that some parents take this seriously. With regard to adults, body dysphoria was treated as a psychological illness…and is apparently the case, as transgenders have a higher incidence of suicide than any other group.
See Jonathan Cahn's newest book "The Return of the Gods." It's a discussion of the history of demonic principalities - Israel and before - and how as the US has opened the door to all types of immorality and abandoned God, they have come back from the margins where they were pushed out by Christianity. Ashteroth specifically had transgendered priests. Naomi Wolf has written about this on her Substack but you can find Cahn interviewed on Rumble on Eric Metaxas' channel. It's a very dark book but it's one reasonable explanation for the explosion we are seeing.
There is a video by a woman professional who explains why she thinks this is happening. Unfortunately,
I don't have a link. She says that the heavy emphasis on transgenderism, drag story hours at the library, teachers helping children to trans-dress while at school, children having trans-surgery, etc. was purposely begun about 10 years ago through suggestive techniques with capturing media and PR campaigns, to convince children that something is wrong with them. The point was made, right or wrong, that it was a method of further degradation of the traditional family, partly with the aim of reducing the number of children being born.
My grandson has an answer - it the teachers confusing the hell out of all the kids- he is 12 and he says at his school half the kids don't know if they are gay, bi, transexual or a doughnut. No doubt routine medicalisation of childhood plays a role as does the entire victim culture ideology. All part of the cultural Maxist plot.
Very interesting. Are you saying that you believe that there is a disproportionate number of transgender girls (girl to boy) who are also on the autism spectrum?
I think we need to be very careful of branding anyone as “mentally ill,” which is often used as an excuse for incarceration. It can be argued that the doctors of the medical freedom movement - or people who hold any religious belief - are mentally ill, too. Once you buy into that psychiatric concept you are on a slippery slope, imo. Psychiatry has subjected people to forced lobotomies and other terrible “treatments” in the name of curing mental illness.
No need to worry about incarceration for the mentally ill in the US. I believe it was Reagan who defunded much of this, so you see quite an influx of mentally ‘challenged’ homeless people being allowed to be, just as they are.
The point is that up until VERY recently, body dysphoria was something you attempted to deal with an overcome….and not with hormones and surgery. And not all psychological help goes to the extreme you describe, such as lobotomies, etc. I’m curious….how much of a difference do you think it is, for someone to believe they are a different gender, vs someone to believe that they’re Napoleon??
I’m not sure what people who undergo transgender treatment believe, maybe they just wish they were the opposite sex and think the treatment will make them feel better. In some cases they are happy with it, in other cases they are not. I applaud Dr. M for publicizing this study which, if it was conducted without bias and the results are valid, might make people and doctors think twice about the procedures - and I’m totally against public schools trying to indoctrinate children into transgenderism - but again I think we need to be careful about branding people who are just different as mentally ill. If medical science is still in its infancy, as the past three years seems to indicate, then psychiatry is still an unfertilized egg. I think Dr. Breggin might agree, as might have psychiatrists Thomas Szasz and Ronald Laing. The people at CCHR.org have been pushing for psychiatric reform for years, I think it’s a good cause.
Do you feel the same way about transabled people? People who have normal bodies, but identify has someone with a disability, and CHOOSE to, say, amputate a leg or create some other disability??
People should have an inalienable right to pursue happiness in any way they want, imo, as long as it doesn’t hurt others. They should be able to take risks and do things which others consider unhealthy. It may be reasonable to place limits on the amount of government assistance a person can receive if they insist on making certain choices, but If something somebody does just goes against what you consider to be natural, that’s your problem imo.
If you don’t think that unaddressed mental illness hurts others….I wonder if you would be as unaffected by this, if your child decided to be transabled. Or ‘chose’ to be homeless. Or ‘chose’ to be a drug addict. You would just sit on the sidelines and say ‘oh, they are just pursuing their happiness and I should not intervene’. Somehow I suspect that in that situation, you would completely forget about your response above.
If I don’t believe in the Biblical God I can say that all Jews and Christians are mentally ill, wasting their lives worshipping and praying to something that isn’t there, for which there is no scientific evidence, and therefore I should have a right to kidnap and deprogram them. I might even be able to produce a few people who say they are grateful I did that to them. Does that mean it should be legal?
Bad logic. To make your example equate with our discussion, you would have to believe that you were God or Jesus. We are talking about a psychological issue the makes you believe you are something you are not, whether it’s trans…..or Napoleon. It’s the same psychological issue.
I think the logic applies, but in any case what are you suggesting, that people who believe “trans women are women” be rounded up and forcibly “treated” with ECT, drugs and/or “therapy” by psychiatrists? I think extremists like the people who punched Riley Gaines last week should certainly be arrested (and I have no idea what percentage of trans people they represent), but I don’t think our criminal justice system should be aligned with what I would call the pseudo-science of psychiatry. I think every person convicted of a crime should be considered “not guilty by reason of being human,” but still be required to financially compensate the victim and state (for court costs), if possible, while retaining, during incarceration if deemed necessary, certain rights including the right to refuse any medical or psychiatric treatment - and that the people making the decisions as to whether or not to incarcerate and for how long should be elected by the people, irregardless of whether they have a particular degree. Government + psychiatry = fascism, imo.
Please don’t assume that you know what I believe. Very simply, I believe that people who believe that they are something other than they are, whether they believe they are of a different sex, a different person, a different species, etc., have a psychological issue that should be addressed….and not necessarily, as you insist, through some kind of drug manipulation. The very fact that trans people have a high incidence of suicide, AFTER they have transitioned, would indicate that whatever their psychology or ‘discontent’ is NOT remedied through their transition (and you may be interested in actually listening to those who have transitioned, and regret it.
We've went way too far in the wrong direction to not label the mentally ill. The explosion of gender dysphoria, vast numbers of homeless, including those unemployable and unwilling to be employed, and it seems an epidemic in crimes, there are multitudes of the mentally ill who would be far better off if their illness was identified, that they be in treatment, (willing or not). Ignoring the problem, not giving treatment to the sick, makes the problem worse.
If people commit violence then lock them until such time as it seems very unlikely they will do so again, but I don’t think that will be accomplished by forcing any “treatment” on them, which is a violation of reasonable medical freedom, imo. And psychiatric treatments may be much more likely to cause suicides and homicides than transgender procedures. We need good science and, irregardless of what it shows, insistence on informed consent.
To add to this, the present system doesn't work. Clearly the thousands of mentally ill homeless are a problem. Crime, assaults, destroying neighborhoods, drugs, all bad. I think we're all ears if anyone can come up with solutions.
How about the government sending people out to offer them assistance? Not money they will spend on drugs but counseling on overcoming addictions and help in building a better life if they are open to it (financed by a proportional asset tax so the super rich pay a lot more than they currently do). If they’re not open to it then incarceration might be warranted if they are committing crimes. But “treatment” forced on them, no, mean and counterproductive imo.
You're undoubtably a Socialist. Tax the rich. The Trump tax reform brought MORE tax revenue in because reducing taxes on the rich stimulated the economy and provided more economic development, more job growth, more investment in production capacity. The more you tax the rich, the more you stifle the economy. That's why Socialistic and Communistic countries have terrible economies. See my other comments for forced treatments will save lives.
There needs to be balance, and consideration for individual rights. But the problem lies in that currently, the mentally ill have so many "rights", that they're not given treatment they need. I had a friend once, who was insane. (Yes, literally). I tried to help, the clinic wouldn't talk to me about him since he signed a paper denying anyone could communicate with the clinic. He had guns, did some shooting that could have killed people, but the police said he had "rights" to have the guns. He went to the hospital for observation, in a straight jacket, howling. None of the doctors there would commit him to the insane asylum, even though the police informed them that 5 people testified he was crazy, needed help, and was a danger to himself and others. After the 3 day observation he was released, ended up driving a few hundred miles, then pointed a toy guy at police, they shot him to death. True story, his name was Bruce Steiner.
He was shooting randomly into buildings and vehicles, and mobile homes where people could have been. Police didn't arrest him for that, no one witnessed this. He admitted it to me when he had a normal spell. He went to the hospital when the police did a safety check on him. He was locked in a vehicle for a few days with no food, water, and a below zero winter storm was coming, so we were concerned. They had to break the glass, put him in restraints, and take him in. There are many mentally ill similar to this that desperately need treatment. But they won't cooperate to get treatment, and because they have "rights", they continue a self destructive life. The statistics on the death rate of these people is staggering. He should have been committed to the mental hospital. We actually went to a meeting of NAMI, and his case was discussed. The doctors who examined him were afraid to commit him for fear of being sued, and taking away his "rights".
I Googled it. One hard statistic is over a 5 year period 18,000 homeless died, 5,000 in 2020 alone. Another estimate is that 17,000 to 40,000 die per year. Wouldn't it be more humane to forcibly institutionalize those mentally ill to give them treatment, even if it takes away their "rights"?
Why not woo them into trusting you by helping them with food, blankets and other such items, then they will be more open to communicating and any real treatment being offered. Ibogaine and some other such drugs are reportedly helpful for people with addictions, but I very much doubt that would be the case in an involuntary situation. Plus involuntary commitment of the nonviolent sets a bad political precedent, imo. I’d love to hear Dr. McCullough’s views on this topic, hopefully he will share sometime.
I thought of another category. Drug and alcohol addicts. My sister would crawl over broken glass naked to get a drink, if it came to that. Countless rehabs. AA. The success rate of AA is like 10-15%. Abysmal. She drank herself to death. The only solution for her would have been confinement in a facility where she could never get alcohol.. I would have gladly signed the papers to confine her for life, and she'd be alive today. But since they have "rights" we let them die instead.
You don't realize, they need a firm hand. They've already been given food, blankets. Most of them prefer to live on the street and want no part of treatment. The treatment has to be mandatory or it doesn't work. The mentally ill don't have the mental capacity to think logically. There's no way to "woo" them. My friend Bruce wouldn't cooperate. What's necessary is for local authorities to ban living on the street. Then offer help. Some might voluntarily agree. great. For those that don't , it has to be mandatory. I don't know how it's done, but none of this is allowed in China, or even Germany, they have laws. If Dr. McCullough has any insight that would be fantastic.
Two days ago, Tucker Carlson spoke of the last 10 years of disproportionate violence committered by the transgendered, and how the Biden administration is defending this "new religious cult" who think they can change what was naturally made. (e.g. The dug up bones of biological women are remarkably different from biological men.)
The issue is simple. We are attempting to normalize a mental illness. Period. The fact that this has now become ‘trendy’ where we are enforcing and approving these measures in children, is beyond appalling.
Just like we are trying to normalize obesity. The Target stores have been pushing the "fat women are normal" philosophy for a couple of years. In the women's section, there are various pictures of obese women wearing clothing. One is a black woman laying on her side wearing a 2 piece bathing suit with her huge belly hanging over. It may not be as serious as transgender surgery, but the message is the same: we are to march in lockstep and accept whatever they deign is normal.
Exactly.
Inisfad
Your simple explanation does not begin to explain the apparent explosion in transgenderism. Why have so many suddenly become mentally ill? I am 76 and I have never known a transgendered person, but I cannot wish away what I now see every day on the internet.
It’s the internet and peer pressure, which we didn’t have growing up. It has also been suggested that the massive increase in vaccines has altered something biologically in our children as autism has also exploded since the 80’s. I think CHD had something on this. The article said many of these kids are also on the spectrum with issues. Unintended consequences of screwing with nature.
There could be a chemical component as well, like atrazine, all the plastics and hormone mimics out there.
My sense is there are several causes out there and the fanaticism of the trans movement creates a firewall from discussing that.
There is no ‘explosion’ in mental illness (other than making the socially trending of this acceptable). Consider that, historically, there have always been tomboys, correct? I suppose if you ask any one of them at the age of 11 if they would like to be boys, they would say yes. Perhaps the difference now is that some parents take this seriously. With regard to adults, body dysphoria was treated as a psychological illness…and is apparently the case, as transgenders have a higher incidence of suicide than any other group.
See Jonathan Cahn's newest book "The Return of the Gods." It's a discussion of the history of demonic principalities - Israel and before - and how as the US has opened the door to all types of immorality and abandoned God, they have come back from the margins where they were pushed out by Christianity. Ashteroth specifically had transgendered priests. Naomi Wolf has written about this on her Substack but you can find Cahn interviewed on Rumble on Eric Metaxas' channel. It's a very dark book but it's one reasonable explanation for the explosion we are seeing.
Have you seen Tucker's video from 2 days ago?
Terence
There is a video by a woman professional who explains why she thinks this is happening. Unfortunately,
I don't have a link. She says that the heavy emphasis on transgenderism, drag story hours at the library, teachers helping children to trans-dress while at school, children having trans-surgery, etc. was purposely begun about 10 years ago through suggestive techniques with capturing media and PR campaigns, to convince children that something is wrong with them. The point was made, right or wrong, that it was a method of further degradation of the traditional family, partly with the aim of reducing the number of children being born.
My grandson has an answer - it the teachers confusing the hell out of all the kids- he is 12 and he says at his school half the kids don't know if they are gay, bi, transexual or a doughnut. No doubt routine medicalisation of childhood plays a role as does the entire victim culture ideology. All part of the cultural Maxist plot.
You are so right! It’s happening in my granddaughters classroom snd she is in first grade! I warned my daughter to get her out of there.
Very interesting. Are you saying that you believe that there is a disproportionate number of transgender girls (girl to boy) who are also on the autism spectrum?
I think we need to be very careful of branding anyone as “mentally ill,” which is often used as an excuse for incarceration. It can be argued that the doctors of the medical freedom movement - or people who hold any religious belief - are mentally ill, too. Once you buy into that psychiatric concept you are on a slippery slope, imo. Psychiatry has subjected people to forced lobotomies and other terrible “treatments” in the name of curing mental illness.
No need to worry about incarceration for the mentally ill in the US. I believe it was Reagan who defunded much of this, so you see quite an influx of mentally ‘challenged’ homeless people being allowed to be, just as they are.
The point is that up until VERY recently, body dysphoria was something you attempted to deal with an overcome….and not with hormones and surgery. And not all psychological help goes to the extreme you describe, such as lobotomies, etc. I’m curious….how much of a difference do you think it is, for someone to believe they are a different gender, vs someone to believe that they’re Napoleon??
I’m not sure what people who undergo transgender treatment believe, maybe they just wish they were the opposite sex and think the treatment will make them feel better. In some cases they are happy with it, in other cases they are not. I applaud Dr. M for publicizing this study which, if it was conducted without bias and the results are valid, might make people and doctors think twice about the procedures - and I’m totally against public schools trying to indoctrinate children into transgenderism - but again I think we need to be careful about branding people who are just different as mentally ill. If medical science is still in its infancy, as the past three years seems to indicate, then psychiatry is still an unfertilized egg. I think Dr. Breggin might agree, as might have psychiatrists Thomas Szasz and Ronald Laing. The people at CCHR.org have been pushing for psychiatric reform for years, I think it’s a good cause.
Do you feel the same way about transabled people? People who have normal bodies, but identify has someone with a disability, and CHOOSE to, say, amputate a leg or create some other disability??
People should have an inalienable right to pursue happiness in any way they want, imo, as long as it doesn’t hurt others. They should be able to take risks and do things which others consider unhealthy. It may be reasonable to place limits on the amount of government assistance a person can receive if they insist on making certain choices, but If something somebody does just goes against what you consider to be natural, that’s your problem imo.
If you don’t think that unaddressed mental illness hurts others….I wonder if you would be as unaffected by this, if your child decided to be transabled. Or ‘chose’ to be homeless. Or ‘chose’ to be a drug addict. You would just sit on the sidelines and say ‘oh, they are just pursuing their happiness and I should not intervene’. Somehow I suspect that in that situation, you would completely forget about your response above.
If I don’t believe in the Biblical God I can say that all Jews and Christians are mentally ill, wasting their lives worshipping and praying to something that isn’t there, for which there is no scientific evidence, and therefore I should have a right to kidnap and deprogram them. I might even be able to produce a few people who say they are grateful I did that to them. Does that mean it should be legal?
Bad logic. To make your example equate with our discussion, you would have to believe that you were God or Jesus. We are talking about a psychological issue the makes you believe you are something you are not, whether it’s trans…..or Napoleon. It’s the same psychological issue.
I think the logic applies, but in any case what are you suggesting, that people who believe “trans women are women” be rounded up and forcibly “treated” with ECT, drugs and/or “therapy” by psychiatrists? I think extremists like the people who punched Riley Gaines last week should certainly be arrested (and I have no idea what percentage of trans people they represent), but I don’t think our criminal justice system should be aligned with what I would call the pseudo-science of psychiatry. I think every person convicted of a crime should be considered “not guilty by reason of being human,” but still be required to financially compensate the victim and state (for court costs), if possible, while retaining, during incarceration if deemed necessary, certain rights including the right to refuse any medical or psychiatric treatment - and that the people making the decisions as to whether or not to incarcerate and for how long should be elected by the people, irregardless of whether they have a particular degree. Government + psychiatry = fascism, imo.
Please don’t assume that you know what I believe. Very simply, I believe that people who believe that they are something other than they are, whether they believe they are of a different sex, a different person, a different species, etc., have a psychological issue that should be addressed….and not necessarily, as you insist, through some kind of drug manipulation. The very fact that trans people have a high incidence of suicide, AFTER they have transitioned, would indicate that whatever their psychology or ‘discontent’ is NOT remedied through their transition (and you may be interested in actually listening to those who have transitioned, and regret it.
We've went way too far in the wrong direction to not label the mentally ill. The explosion of gender dysphoria, vast numbers of homeless, including those unemployable and unwilling to be employed, and it seems an epidemic in crimes, there are multitudes of the mentally ill who would be far better off if their illness was identified, that they be in treatment, (willing or not). Ignoring the problem, not giving treatment to the sick, makes the problem worse.
If people commit violence then lock them until such time as it seems very unlikely they will do so again, but I don’t think that will be accomplished by forcing any “treatment” on them, which is a violation of reasonable medical freedom, imo. And psychiatric treatments may be much more likely to cause suicides and homicides than transgender procedures. We need good science and, irregardless of what it shows, insistence on informed consent.
To add to this, the present system doesn't work. Clearly the thousands of mentally ill homeless are a problem. Crime, assaults, destroying neighborhoods, drugs, all bad. I think we're all ears if anyone can come up with solutions.
How about the government sending people out to offer them assistance? Not money they will spend on drugs but counseling on overcoming addictions and help in building a better life if they are open to it (financed by a proportional asset tax so the super rich pay a lot more than they currently do). If they’re not open to it then incarceration might be warranted if they are committing crimes. But “treatment” forced on them, no, mean and counterproductive imo.
You're undoubtably a Socialist. Tax the rich. The Trump tax reform brought MORE tax revenue in because reducing taxes on the rich stimulated the economy and provided more economic development, more job growth, more investment in production capacity. The more you tax the rich, the more you stifle the economy. That's why Socialistic and Communistic countries have terrible economies. See my other comments for forced treatments will save lives.
There needs to be balance, and consideration for individual rights. But the problem lies in that currently, the mentally ill have so many "rights", that they're not given treatment they need. I had a friend once, who was insane. (Yes, literally). I tried to help, the clinic wouldn't talk to me about him since he signed a paper denying anyone could communicate with the clinic. He had guns, did some shooting that could have killed people, but the police said he had "rights" to have the guns. He went to the hospital for observation, in a straight jacket, howling. None of the doctors there would commit him to the insane asylum, even though the police informed them that 5 people testified he was crazy, needed help, and was a danger to himself and others. After the 3 day observation he was released, ended up driving a few hundred miles, then pointed a toy guy at police, they shot him to death. True story, his name was Bruce Steiner.
I’m sorry about your friend. If he did some shooting that could have killed people, the police erred in letting him go.
He was shooting randomly into buildings and vehicles, and mobile homes where people could have been. Police didn't arrest him for that, no one witnessed this. He admitted it to me when he had a normal spell. He went to the hospital when the police did a safety check on him. He was locked in a vehicle for a few days with no food, water, and a below zero winter storm was coming, so we were concerned. They had to break the glass, put him in restraints, and take him in. There are many mentally ill similar to this that desperately need treatment. But they won't cooperate to get treatment, and because they have "rights", they continue a self destructive life. The statistics on the death rate of these people is staggering. He should have been committed to the mental hospital. We actually went to a meeting of NAMI, and his case was discussed. The doctors who examined him were afraid to commit him for fear of being sued, and taking away his "rights".
I Googled it. One hard statistic is over a 5 year period 18,000 homeless died, 5,000 in 2020 alone. Another estimate is that 17,000 to 40,000 die per year. Wouldn't it be more humane to forcibly institutionalize those mentally ill to give them treatment, even if it takes away their "rights"?
Why not woo them into trusting you by helping them with food, blankets and other such items, then they will be more open to communicating and any real treatment being offered. Ibogaine and some other such drugs are reportedly helpful for people with addictions, but I very much doubt that would be the case in an involuntary situation. Plus involuntary commitment of the nonviolent sets a bad political precedent, imo. I’d love to hear Dr. McCullough’s views on this topic, hopefully he will share sometime.
I thought of another category. Drug and alcohol addicts. My sister would crawl over broken glass naked to get a drink, if it came to that. Countless rehabs. AA. The success rate of AA is like 10-15%. Abysmal. She drank herself to death. The only solution for her would have been confinement in a facility where she could never get alcohol.. I would have gladly signed the papers to confine her for life, and she'd be alive today. But since they have "rights" we let them die instead.
You don't realize, they need a firm hand. They've already been given food, blankets. Most of them prefer to live on the street and want no part of treatment. The treatment has to be mandatory or it doesn't work. The mentally ill don't have the mental capacity to think logically. There's no way to "woo" them. My friend Bruce wouldn't cooperate. What's necessary is for local authorities to ban living on the street. Then offer help. Some might voluntarily agree. great. For those that don't , it has to be mandatory. I don't know how it's done, but none of this is allowed in China, or even Germany, they have laws. If Dr. McCullough has any insight that would be fantastic.
Two days ago, Tucker Carlson spoke of the last 10 years of disproportionate violence committered by the transgendered, and how the Biden administration is defending this "new religious cult" who think they can change what was naturally made. (e.g. The dug up bones of biological women are remarkably different from biological men.)
https://youtu.be/zsDms8mc68k