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Good evening, everyone. Welcome to Courageous Discourse Substack. Today we have the one and only Dr. Larry Burke. He is a retired Duke MRI radiologist who has been studying EMF safety issues for 35 years. He has served on the North Carolina Radiation Protection Commission's Non-Ionizing Advisory Committee for the past five years. So welcome, Dr. Burke. Let's start off.
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so you've been looking at emf what it's been doing to people what it might be doing in relation to covet so explain to us first what is emf yeah to be honest uh i got
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into this through the mri avenue back in the 80s when i was one of the early researchers in mri of the shoulder and the knee and my partner at that time was chair of the safety committee uh and we were starting to address like things like

Top EMF Expert Reveals the Health Risks of Electromagnetic Fields

Dr. Larry Burk Highlights the Dangers of 5G, Wi-Fi, and Wireless Devices — Practical Solutions to Reduce EMF Exposure

By Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

Dr. Larry Burk is a retired Duke MRI radiologist who has been studying Electromagnetic field (EMF) safety issues for 35 years. He has served on the North Carolina Radiation Protection Commission's Non-Ionizing Advisory Committee for the past 5 years. In this interview, Dr. Burk discusses the growing impact of EMFs on human health and shares actionable strategies to mitigate their effects.

Sahu et al conducted a systematic review examining the impact of EMF pollution on human health:

Objective: Recent technological advances have exponentially expanded globally; harbouring upon Electromagnetic fields (EMF). The utilization of Electromagnetic field has become universal from everyday usage of electronic appliances such as micro wave ovens, tablets and portable computers to telecommunication systems mobile phone towers, radio- television broadcast systems and electronic power transmission systems resulting in electromagnetic field and associated radiations. EMF can have biological effects on cell at microlevel and have the potential ability to cause cell dysfunction manifesting in various biological effects. This review tried to gather evidence from the existing literature about the biological effects of EMF on human health.
Materials and Methods: We did extensive literature search using PubMed and Cochrane database using key words, “electromagnetic fields”, “Extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields (ELF-EMFs)”, “biological effects”, “health effects”, “public health”. We included 20 studies conducted from Dec 2009 to Dec 2019 in our systematic review. Data from each study was extracted by two independent researchers and discrepancies were resolved by consensus.
Results: Significant biological effects of EMF exposure were reported on human health ranging from anxiety, depression, sleep disturbance, increased risk of Alzheimer’s disease and ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis), hypersensitivity to infertility and increased risk of multiple carcinomas.
Conclusion:
Application of preventive measures in order to minimize the exposure becomes the need of the hour especially so in occupational settings.

Kostoff et al summarized the adverse health effects of 5G mobile networking technology under real-life conditions:

We also discuss the study titled, Evidence for a connection between coronavirus disease-19 and exposure to radiofrequency radiation from wireless communications including 5G, published in the Journal of Clinical and Translational Research:

You can find all cellular towers in your area using this tool: AntennaSearch is a searchable database containing detailed information (location, ownership, contact info, frequencies, etc.) on towers and antennas within the United States.

If you wish to learn more about EMFs and Dr. Burk’s work, check out the following links he has provided:

Larry Burk’s Let Magic Happen Coaching Program

Legal Strategies to Block the Rollout of 5G

Stay Healthy in a 5G World: Heal Your House, Heal Your Body

Thank You for Cell Phoning: 5G is Safe … or Not?

Arthur Firstenberg’s book The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life which is summarized in this free 17-page pdf.

Safe and Sound Pro II RF Meter

EMF Shielding for Phones and Computers

Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

Epidemiologist and Foundation Administrator, McCullough Foundation

www.mcculloughfnd.org

Please consider following the McCullough Foundation and Nicolas Hulscher on X (formerly Twitter) for further content.

Discussion about this video

Excellent interview. Practitioners who were on the leading edge like Dietrich Klinghardt, etc. found strong correlation between EMF and their patients inability to heal from autoimmune, lyme, mold & cancer. Research showed mold grew 600x faster in the presence of EMF's (WiFi). This, plus sugar/yeast leads to serious concerns for human health.

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Thank you for alerting us again of the very serious threats from exposure to EMFs. The risks to brains of the unborn and young children’s developing brains are both shocking and appalling. How much damage has already been done to us and to future generations???

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You're wearing radio transmitters in your ears.

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I’ll be addressing this issue

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lol yes first thing i noticed !

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Nick there you are wearing ear buds oooops !!!

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I have wondered about this issue since the wide adaptation of cell phones almost 20 years ago.

Having worked for years in the field of occupational health in the midst of engineers who were insensitive, as a rule, to biological data and information, Dr. Burt’s comments about the engineers ignoring all health effects other than heat, rang a very familiar, and unpleasant, bell in my memory and experience.

Now, due to the work of Nicholas and the McCullough Foundation, I know what’s going on and WHY, in the area of the health effects of EMF RADIATION.

VERY SIMPLE REALLY, as in all of these health versus money issues, men choose to worship money, not God, just as the Apostle Paul, because he actually cared, and therefore warned us, because God ACTUALLY CARES ENOUGH TO WARN US; “You cannot worship God and Mammon.” You can try, and you can tell yourself you can, and we do, but we are wrong; ‘you CANNOT’, and when we try to, in defiance of God’s warning, we “reap what we sow”, which is disease and death, both temporal, and eternal.

AND, as noted in the interview, the danger is not inevitable or unavoidable, because simply wiring access avoids the problem, doesn’t it?

But, that is not acceptable to those who wish sell your data and avoid the costs of running wires…our health, and souls, be damned.

Once again, thank you Nicholas for this excellent work of TRUTH BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL WHO LOVE THE TRUTH.

TRUTH, though painful at times, is a very BEAUTIFUL THING!

Keep up the good work Nicholas, we truly appreciate what you are doing, and I believe God does too, and is Glorified in it.

Jacob

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Well said

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THANK YOU, Dr. Hulscher, for shining light on this VERY IMPORTANT issue!

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Very informative and nice interesting discussion at the same time. Well done by Nic and Dr. Burk.

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In public policy the word “may” also conveys “may not” and is useless in construction of any meaningful policy recommendation.

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WIRELESS EAR BUDS ARE VERY DANGEROUS TOO! Use the corded type!

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Oh God! Nicolas! I'm halfway into the video and just realized you're wearing wireless headphones!!! That's Bluetooth. I've measured those. It's tremendous power right there by your skull. Remember the adage - distance is your friend. There's almost no distance there. It's the little can part sticking down that's where the bluetooth and other general circuitry is. So it's not actually inside your ear but right next to it. But there's something else about these wireless headphones that's just as alarming! The left and right headphones communicate with each other using a technology called "near field magnetic induction" (NFMI). Apparently the left and right headphones need to be contact with each other. So it's sending magnetic waves right through your head! People barely know about that part of these wireless headphones. I have an article on it for Apple Airpods. But it probably applies to all wireless earplugs. The article says it's common. And kid's today are wearing these things almost nonstop too.

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My husband's largest cancers were where he kept his phone. I'd like to integrate his case into the public conversation.

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His thoughts on grounding mats or sheets?

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I have a greedy selfish brother who was one of three inheritors of a large farm property and made a deal with a cell tower for assembly and a fee paid for rent.

It worked out to nine ground a year and that selfish greedy fool sold out for thirty pieces of silver WITHOUT considering the impact on people and children.

My son was much better principled and killed the deal. The greedy pos fat assed fake brother whose pension is close to 100 grand a year is still whining and crying about the mere three grand per year he is losing.(I do not care if he was my brother, I despise and reject him)

What most do not know is that even agreeing to a 4 transmission level, the tower owner can raise it as high as 10!!!

I have disowned the greedy lying puke and estranged him as a brother. I am not a respector of persons even if they are relatives. An asshole is an asshole even if it is related.

A neighbor across the road had a cell tower company meet with him and offered him ten grand a year they would pay for rent if he allowed erection of same on his property.

He booted them, chastising them for their stinginess in only offering to pay ten grand a year when they would be making multiple millions in the same period of time. I have good neighbors all around me in the rural area I inhabit.

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Yet here we are reading this on a wireless device!!!

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convert your device to wired connections like Dr. Burk explains at start of vid. I use ethernet cxn to laptop pc

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EV... Electric cars, bikes etc...

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A good interview BUT Dr Burk needs to update his knowledge about mobile phones. Turning on “Aeroplane Mode” turns off the cellular network component, BUT DOES NOT turn off the Wi-Fi part of the phone (and sometimes the Bluetooth component). So putting a phone in aeroplane mode does NOT turn off all the transmissions from the phone, just the cellular network part. Check your own phone with an EMF meter. I suggest everyone gets a meter. Otherwise you are guessing

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It depends on what type of cell phone you have. My Galaxy Android airplane mode shuts off my WiFi automatically, so my meter goes silent. Agree everyone needs a meter. https://burk0001.medium.com/thank-you-for-cell-phoning-5g-is-safe-or-not-aa1bdf784777

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Jan 18Edited

What about the emf products from emfsol.com for the cell phone, computer, router, home?

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the distance of the emissions of a cell phone from the internal organs is one of the priority or non-negligible aspects, given that any electromagnetic radiation tends to reduce its intensity with the squared distance (d ^ 2 in the denominator) moving the emission of about a meter.

compared to the usual 5-10 cm from the skull, placing the cell phone in a pocket fixed to the ankle, would reduce the radiation emitted towards the internal organs by 10^2 = 100 times at least.

obviously I am talking only about the emission of the cell phone.

The minimum radiation would be connecting the cell phone placed on the ankle with a wired jack, but in the era of "always connected wireless", the wire is a completely out of trend solution.

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Thank you for this excellent article. May you be heard in Washington.

Another aspect to discuss is the fire safety issue of EMF.

Here's why I think it merits investigation:

What hasn’t been tested is the effect of heat on ‘smart’ meters.

They are run on lithium batteries which are incendiary with sufficient heat. And the electricity just keeps running through them, also incendiary. Electromagnetic fires burn more quickly than those burning with other fuels.

Perhaps this accounts for the odd look of fires in the last few years: the buildings are ash, yet all the trees in the neighbourhood, which catch fire at a much lower temperature than most building materials, are still standing, some even with leaves.

Note in all the many video clips that nothing in between the homes and buildings is burning. You can see this in fire after fire in the last few years, including the LA fires.

Compare this to photos of burnt homes before ‘smart’ meters. You’ll see a marked difference.

To address this:

1. Demand actual testing of these meters by experts who have no ‘yes-men’ ties to the governments who pushed ‘smart’ meters on everyone. Governments make lots of money selling the information ‘smart’ meters give them. These meters are advertising and surveillance devices. Therefore governments are likely to resist accountability. Therefore demand even more accountability. About all aspects.

2. Investigate the government’s safety testing before mandates and installations.

If insufficient:

3. Find good class action legal representation in every city, state and province.

4. Opt out if you can

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After reading The Body Electric and calling its author in 1984, I ditched electric blankets and took some minor other steps. The real shocker 41 years ago was how many other nations (esp Scandinavian) knew better and acted against lesser EMR dangers than allowed in the USA…so far.

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I met Becker at a 1989 acupuncture conference in Philly, and his book was a game changer for me as outlined in this blog. https://www.letmagichappen.com/images/uploads/documents/Basis.BEM.AAMA.1990.pdf

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Grateful to know more about the work of a brilliant scientist who instantly answered my layman’s questions at generous length. Thank you, Dr Burk.

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I heard on SaveUsNow.org a week or so ago that pets which are chipped get cancer at a younger age than not chipped pets. Good idea to turn routers off whenever not needed .

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What about the weaponisation of EMF in our cities .See SaveUsNow.org

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Look at antibiotic resistance and 2.4ghz routers(what we have in our homes) I wrote a paper on this, citing resistance of 3 very common nosocomial pathogens.

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Dr. Larry Burk is awesome.

Thanks calling more attention to this, Nic.

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What about the electric car battery? A massive amount of EMF radiation for long periods of time can't be good. The internet scrubbed of such topics...

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Thanks for covering this. You may find my blog useful too: https://rfinfo.co.uk/apple-airpods/

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Sent this to a friend who is an electrical engineer and a tenured professor of the same at a major university here in Canada. (Along with being unjabbed and a yoga practitioner... 😉)

Asked for feedback.

This was his response:

'Yes, I've been keeping my eye on that a while... Like all things in my life these days, it's a blob-shaped amorphous probability density cloud...

Earlier today I was just pondering whether we are being exposed to nanoscopic particles of graphene oxide that could be self-assembling in the body when under the exposure of certain modulated fields.

It's a possibility, and it's also possibly just science fiction...

Let's imagine that biologically we are tunable receivers / transmitters (AKA transceivers) of psychic fields that may be a form of energy waves... And imagine by ingesting or breathing in these nanoscopic particles, they can be modulated into an alloy that forms a sheath around the organic parts of our nervous system that are the antennas of that transceiver.

They would psychically be isolated from each other, and we wouldn't even really know except for the vague feeling that something wasn't quite right.

And of course there are other biophysical possibilities...

Once our bodies are saturated with conductive nanoparticles of different materials from polymers through metals to graphene... It seems to open the door to many realistic possibilities within reach, but for now remain somewhere in the probability cloud between fantasy and reality...

Note, however, that Microsoft has demonstrated the storage of digital data in the DNA... And I probably don't need to tell you that through the decades of covert research on mind control many psychoactive substances have been used in combination with sonic and electromagnetic stimulation..."

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/dna-storage/

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Jan 19Edited

So having dealt with EHS for near 8 years, I can confirm the experience described for people who acquire it described here. The numbers are growing rapidly, and those affected are shocked to find that life as they know it is completely gone. It is getting increasingly difficult to mitigate for this, and as other environmental conditions, second hand toxicity is almost impossible to eliminate, and severely restricts lifestyle, including working, living environment, social, etc... . Unfortunately others won't take the dangers seriously, unless they finally become affected, at which point it is sadly too late. We are approaching a time when this will be epidemic, at which point maybe we will see some meaningful change (meaning change that allows people to live in society without being too badly affected) - but we will have to wrestle control back from big tech bro as we have allowed a complete takeover.

The equipment talked about here is good. Often I see presentations with people trying to sell gadgets that don't work, and given by people who don't have a clue about how all of this works. The meter he is demonstrating is the one I use. Less than 1uw/m2 is a normal threshold for someone with EHS, so 10 like in his house is even high for someone affected. But neighbours wifi, etc, can reach quite far and so ambient radio-frequency is really hard to avoid even if you don't use wireless devices in your own house.

One thing I will say is that 5G is not by any means the only concern. Like he says, people had EHS back before wireless was even a thing. Electricity and magnetic frequencies also cause EHS. 3G and 4G grew this population by leaps and bounds, and now with the internet of things, its growing even faster. Once there is a reaction to any one type of EMF, often one becomes sensitive to some degree to all of them or many.

He is completely correct about hospitals being a toxic soup of EMFs. Many with EHS won't even go to one, no matter what happens. Some people suffer through arrhythmias and many terrible symptoms and just hope for the best, because health care facilities almost always make it worse. Allopathic medicine is generally not your friend, nor your advocate if you have this condition.

If one is serious about mitigating their home, it is best to get a consultant out to do this. Beyond the easy things like not using any wireless devices, it can get tricky. However, depending on your lifestyle and where you spend most of your time, this could just be a drop in the bucket. By the way, most cell phones do not stop producing EMFs in airplane mode. This is a myth. You can measure your own phone with a meter if you're curious. You must turn off your phone completely to avoid radio-frequency being admitted from it.

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I wrote this article about EM radiation: How non ionizing radiation affects biological systems (a technical approach) - https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/how-non-ionizing-radiation-affects

In my article I try to specify how the physics of the EM-waves can affect the physics of the cells. Biology is far more sensitive than people assume, because most of its processes use electrochemistry.

People should be aware of mobile phones in their pockets, and of sleeping with a WIFI near bed. I did not see a link with Covid, other than that it may weaken the immune system via stress. It was already known that the radiation causes stress, even when the person does not know.

I think that the official safety requirements for EM-radiation were established by the military. This made it possible for them to use high energy radars, while radar injuries occurred. To get away with possible harm lawsuits, I think they invented the "body is a barrel of water" for radiation. Pretending that if the barrel of water does not get hot, your body will be fine. This concept pushed away any notion of electrochemistry, nerves and other electric sensitive systems in biology. And this concept is still being used by big tech.

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Do those chips you put on the cell phone like body well, create any protection? Or are they just a ripoff?

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I am so relieved that this is being brought to light finally. Our entire house is hard wired . We use adapters for our phones to the ethernet connector and keep our phones on airport. Our town still has analog meters which we are grateful for. A good book that is an easy fact filled read is 'The nontinfoil Guide to EMFs*.

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I have some interesting advice on the bluetooth keyboard and trackpad emissions. I have a very good RF meter too, and monitor my environment from time to time. I'm on an Apple iMac desktop. Something I suspect almost nobody knows, is that when you plug in the charging cable to the keyboard or trackpad, it's more than charging. It becomes the data link for the keyboard and trackpad too. And the bluetooth automatically shuts down on the device. So if you're on a Mac, you don't have to replace your keyboard or trackpad. Just keep it plugged in. I observed it with my own meter. The emissions when they're plugged in goes to neglibible. There's a simple test you can do to implicitly verify it yourself. Simply plug in your keyboard or trackpad and wait a few seconds. Then unplug it. In a moment you'll see a messege on the screen with a pictorial of keyboard or trackpad saying "connected". That's indicating bluetooth was established with the device. And implicitly, that bluetooth was off from the device beforehand. So Apple was apparently smart enough that when the cable is plugged it, the device automatically powers down it's bluetooth circuitry on its own. The actual reason they do it though probably, is to get maximum charging. If bluetooth stayed active, it would divert some of that charging power. But that's a good thing to know - just keep them plugged in! But that's for a Mac! I haven't tried it on any Windows computer.

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Here is an $80 off discount for my Staying Healthy in a 5G World: Heal Your Home, Heal Your Body online course with 4 free classes linked in my blogs here. LARRY5GDISCOUNT

https://burk0001.medium.com/legal-strategies-to-block-the-rollout-of-5g-65d53ae4d26

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The new administration will obviously not do anything that could possibly jepordize this multi trillion dollar industry. It is really naive to believe that.

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