The company these guys started (Autonomy) and sold to HP was a sort of pioneer in applied Bayesian math. I was a user of it on a project I worked on around 2001. It was one of the first (maybe THE first) commercially available products that did searches and clustering analysis based on a probability assessment of digital signatures rather than keywords. So if you were searching a lot of text for dolphins, instead of doing keyword searches on dolphin, fish, ocean, swim, etc., you acquired a set of training documents with info about dolphins, and the software would analyze a data set and match digital signatures against the signature of dolphins, using Bayesian math, to find documents about dolphins.
Sorry for the geeky explanation, but the point is that this boat was named Bayesian for a very good reason. My perspective might be off, but I think Autonomy's application of the Bayesian method was a very early pioneer of something that is outright ubiquitous in IT today. Would also explain why they sold it for $11 billion dollars, and perhaps why they were acquitted of accusations that that price was illegally inflated.
Thank you very much for this explanation! I've just finished reading about the various allegations of fraud associated with the sale of Autonomy to HP and the various legal entanglements which followed. I have a hard time understanding tech stuff and I have little understanding of "signature," but I have an impression of pre-data or that which might construct the searched-for item and then narrowing the identifying tidbits or "signature" to that deep-based search matching up with other identifying (at this elemental or deep level) bits or other "signatures." Indeed, such innovation would be enormously powerful in the digital world. The HP CEO at the time of purchase was greatly enamored with Autonomy's potential despite acknowledging an over-price. I think HP shareholders weren't and that, perhaps, HP's financial position could ill afford the absorption of such a highly speculative venture.
...Or. HP sold, when the second CEO balkanized Autonomy, that deep-seeking search process to DARPA. Still, they would have been well compensated so we are still left with cui bono? Or who didn't benefit enough financially.
I believe the legal charges rested with the alleged overvaluing of the Autonomy's sale's price. Viewing the current DOJ's many attacks against Trump on specious charges, I noted a like attack against Lynch while reading the background. The original CEO of HP when Autonomy was bought was accused of buying over price value and was warned in a pre-purchase report, and another CEO, who appeared to have political ambitions, was brought in who began dismantling Autonomy.
Evidently, shareholders initiated much of the trouble as they fervently opposed the purchase at that price. The entire episode looks highly politicized as in "company politics." One financial officer was convicted in 2018 and spent five years in jail, which I couldn't tell if the sentence was here in the U.S. or in the UK where several suits unfolded, too.
Money...it's money that caused this problem...only I can't figure out why. Who were the shareholders or stockholders in HP at the time? Or who, in actual fact, controlled those shareholders? And for what purpose? Just as Vanguard's BOD is never listed (and Vanguard essentially owns everything when stock ownership is traced through companies), I wonder what high-level money scheme was thwarted or made negligible.
P.S. If I understand what you wrote about Autonomy's software, this software could easily be used for "pre-crime." I.e., the terror of "predicting" who will "commit" crime.
Thanks for the case summary. I haven't looked into it, and that's some helpful background. One of the challenges in even determining a motive if the men were murdered is that it could have been for financial gain or just for spite. If I were Columbo and working this case, I'd be talking to all the disgruntled HP shareholders. But I guess that episode would run a few decades. lol
I'm not an expert on the technology behind autonomy. But I think your supposition that it could be used for pre-crime is probably on-target. You can think of digital signatures in this context like this: Autonomy has a digital signature for all the concepts it's been trained on. And you can think of each signature as a set of parameter values, say a =100, b = 12, c = 75, which of course is an oversimplification. And it calculates a similar signature for each "document" in its database. Then it uses algorithms based on Beyesian math to calculate a score that expresses how close the signature of each document is to the signature for the concept you're searching on.
At the time when I was using Autonomy, a unique feature was the ability to search video and audio files using the same concept. You could feed it an image, for example, and it could find pictures or videos in its database which the Bayesian math said were matches to that image you were searching for. Same with audio files.
Of course, everyone and their dog is making apps now that do something like this, Google's image search is a well known example, but I imagine there are many thousands of examples. I don't know to what extent or in what manner Autonomy is upstream from these apps, but clearly it was an early application of a technology that is truly ubiquitous now.
The irony is that the owners died in an improbable way in several respects. I wasn’t commenting on the product produced by the innovative use of this math concept.
So I just finished doing the calculation. This is how I structured it. I found that the odds of being a pedestrian in the UK and being killed by a vehicle is 1/171,000. With very rough math I was able to determine that if you own a super yacht the odds of it sinking and you perishing are 1/147,000 based on how many mega yachts have historically sunk in the last 20 years as well as factoring a generous 5% fatality risk with sinking. With adding in a calculation for these two events occurring within the same 48 hour period the math worked out to approximately a 1/839 Trillion chance. And that doesn’t even factor in the chance of those two individuals knowing each other. This seems rather impossible.
Whoever did it WANTED to send a message to others. If they wanted it to look coincidental they would have spaced the deaths out by a year or two. It's the equivalent of killing someone in a way that's clearly not a suicide and forcing the coroner to make a finding of suicide.
They also would have made one of those deaths look like natural causes. It's pretty easy to fake a heart attack.
Ah but the Titanic that sank was not the Titanic. The owner switched the name with the Oceania. Now to Lynch. There are no coincidences in life. All has been foreordained by the Creator.
I read a very detailed article about this, but my apologies, can't give you a reference. Photos of the two ships show the slight variations, such as the funnels, windows on the top decks and several other small details. The ship which sailed under the name Titanic was, according to drawings, previous photos, those who worked building both ships was the Oceana, with several passengers, for various reasons, cancelling their passage at the last moment. I recall from the article those passengers who were "in the know " were named in the article. Sorry I can't provide a reference.
Thank you for posting this substack. Interesting. I just made the same prediction above after Mark Leone's explanation of what the software can do. I'm very poor at understanding tech, but I see exactly what this article predicts. More so, actually. Both Autonomy and Darkforce are predictors on such a fundamental level that they can construe the future. I think most likely that many timelines are generated through their software. Then, reasonable analysis must be exerted to determine the most likely, but indeed, this is predictive software at a breathtaking level.
Wow….. this is like a sci-fi movie…. Maybe they used the software and predicted something and found d out the truth about something else? Who knows what’s going g on…..
Time matters in this analysis. The question must be asked before the events, and is obviously so obscure as to NOT be asked prior to the occurrence, which seems to assert Human-Agency at work.
So, what were these guys working on? Anybody know?
HP insisted they cooked the books to arrive at a valuation for the sale, and that it was inflated by 9 billion. I assume they were not amused by the friendly jury in SF. They waited a long time for the legal process to play out, and didn't get the answer they wanted.
True, aj. However, the CEO at the time of purchase had been warned in a pre-purchase investigation/report that Autonomy was overpricing but still wanted the purchase because he saw enormous potential. I wrote more above. This is a very curious case.
Were they awarded financial damages that were yet to be assigned to heirs? The proximity of the two incidents does seem odd, along with why the media silence from the survivors. Have we heard anything at all?
I think crooks and politicians have figured out that the justice system is so slow, that you can commit any crime. Then it takes forever to prove a crime, and by the time it is solved, the money's spent and/or the power has already been wielded illegally and witnesses are all dead. It's like 1930s gangsters all over again. If the goal is money or power, the mission is already a success before "justice" has been "completed".
Do believe these improbable events claimed as average among those perpetrating them and covering-up in the corrupt Legacy Media are going to increase dramatically. The Demons Hiding in Human Being Suits are exposed more than ever in their evil history and their only option is to escalate all chaos, crises and attack.
ANYTHING GOES FOR THOSE HAVING NO BOUNDARIES DIRECTING OWNERSHIP OF BUSINESS AND TECHNOLOGY TO EVIL AS THEMSELVES.
This is somewhat similar to the plot of a movie called the mechanic, where a retired assassin has to kill three people within a few days of each other and make all of the deaths look like an accident. In this case, truth may be stranger than fiction.
Joan Rivers died funny shortly after making this comment, as you might recall:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1825899938888220890
Is there a term similar to "Arkancide" to cover what happened to Joan Rivers and Barry O's chef?
That was so good and wow.
Yup...the jokes on the many...inspired by only one.
I would say that the probability of both of them dying within the same 48-hour period is slim to none.
…and sim moved to Florida.
I am waiting for the sunken yacht to be raised and the actual cause of its sinking determined. But this ‘coincidence’ makes me raise my eye brows!
They could release pix from the bay seabed showing the broken mast they have spoken of, and whether the retractable keel was up or down.
And naive people don't think humans can control the weather and make an acute weather event happen.... Maui anyone?
Gyrotron radiation isn't "weather", though the perhaps induced winds contributed.
DEW
HAARP domes
If nothing else, that may be the most ironic boat moniker ever.
The company these guys started (Autonomy) and sold to HP was a sort of pioneer in applied Bayesian math. I was a user of it on a project I worked on around 2001. It was one of the first (maybe THE first) commercially available products that did searches and clustering analysis based on a probability assessment of digital signatures rather than keywords. So if you were searching a lot of text for dolphins, instead of doing keyword searches on dolphin, fish, ocean, swim, etc., you acquired a set of training documents with info about dolphins, and the software would analyze a data set and match digital signatures against the signature of dolphins, using Bayesian math, to find documents about dolphins.
Sorry for the geeky explanation, but the point is that this boat was named Bayesian for a very good reason. My perspective might be off, but I think Autonomy's application of the Bayesian method was a very early pioneer of something that is outright ubiquitous in IT today. Would also explain why they sold it for $11 billion dollars, and perhaps why they were acquitted of accusations that that price was illegally inflated.
Thank you very much for this explanation! I've just finished reading about the various allegations of fraud associated with the sale of Autonomy to HP and the various legal entanglements which followed. I have a hard time understanding tech stuff and I have little understanding of "signature," but I have an impression of pre-data or that which might construct the searched-for item and then narrowing the identifying tidbits or "signature" to that deep-based search matching up with other identifying (at this elemental or deep level) bits or other "signatures." Indeed, such innovation would be enormously powerful in the digital world. The HP CEO at the time of purchase was greatly enamored with Autonomy's potential despite acknowledging an over-price. I think HP shareholders weren't and that, perhaps, HP's financial position could ill afford the absorption of such a highly speculative venture.
...Or. HP sold, when the second CEO balkanized Autonomy, that deep-seeking search process to DARPA. Still, they would have been well compensated so we are still left with cui bono? Or who didn't benefit enough financially.
I believe the legal charges rested with the alleged overvaluing of the Autonomy's sale's price. Viewing the current DOJ's many attacks against Trump on specious charges, I noted a like attack against Lynch while reading the background. The original CEO of HP when Autonomy was bought was accused of buying over price value and was warned in a pre-purchase report, and another CEO, who appeared to have political ambitions, was brought in who began dismantling Autonomy.
Evidently, shareholders initiated much of the trouble as they fervently opposed the purchase at that price. The entire episode looks highly politicized as in "company politics." One financial officer was convicted in 2018 and spent five years in jail, which I couldn't tell if the sentence was here in the U.S. or in the UK where several suits unfolded, too.
Money...it's money that caused this problem...only I can't figure out why. Who were the shareholders or stockholders in HP at the time? Or who, in actual fact, controlled those shareholders? And for what purpose? Just as Vanguard's BOD is never listed (and Vanguard essentially owns everything when stock ownership is traced through companies), I wonder what high-level money scheme was thwarted or made negligible.
P.S. If I understand what you wrote about Autonomy's software, this software could easily be used for "pre-crime." I.e., the terror of "predicting" who will "commit" crime.
Thanks for the case summary. I haven't looked into it, and that's some helpful background. One of the challenges in even determining a motive if the men were murdered is that it could have been for financial gain or just for spite. If I were Columbo and working this case, I'd be talking to all the disgruntled HP shareholders. But I guess that episode would run a few decades. lol
I'm not an expert on the technology behind autonomy. But I think your supposition that it could be used for pre-crime is probably on-target. You can think of digital signatures in this context like this: Autonomy has a digital signature for all the concepts it's been trained on. And you can think of each signature as a set of parameter values, say a =100, b = 12, c = 75, which of course is an oversimplification. And it calculates a similar signature for each "document" in its database. Then it uses algorithms based on Beyesian math to calculate a score that expresses how close the signature of each document is to the signature for the concept you're searching on.
At the time when I was using Autonomy, a unique feature was the ability to search video and audio files using the same concept. You could feed it an image, for example, and it could find pictures or videos in its database which the Bayesian math said were matches to that image you were searching for. Same with audio files.
Of course, everyone and their dog is making apps now that do something like this, Google's image search is a well known example, but I imagine there are many thousands of examples. I don't know to what extent or in what manner Autonomy is upstream from these apps, but clearly it was an early application of a technology that is truly ubiquitous now.
The irony is that the owners died in an improbable way in several respects. I wasn’t commenting on the product produced by the innovative use of this math concept.
The weather manipulators just outed themselves. “Freak storm!” lol
(Not ready to admit the weather is being manipulated yet? Fine, I’ll go sit in the corner in my tin foil hat. But it is.)
Should have painted their roof blue
we will never know! just like 9/11
Truth will be hidden!
That’s what I’m thinking
So I just finished doing the calculation. This is how I structured it. I found that the odds of being a pedestrian in the UK and being killed by a vehicle is 1/171,000. With very rough math I was able to determine that if you own a super yacht the odds of it sinking and you perishing are 1/147,000 based on how many mega yachts have historically sunk in the last 20 years as well as factoring a generous 5% fatality risk with sinking. With adding in a calculation for these two events occurring within the same 48 hour period the math worked out to approximately a 1/839 Trillion chance. And that doesn’t even factor in the chance of those two individuals knowing each other. This seems rather impossible.
Not just the chance of knowing each other, but having spent the last 13 years in a lifeboat together, and surviving.
Whoever did it WANTED to send a message to others. If they wanted it to look coincidental they would have spaced the deaths out by a year or two. It's the equivalent of killing someone in a way that's clearly not a suicide and forcing the coroner to make a finding of suicide.
They also would have made one of those deaths look like natural causes. It's pretty easy to fake a heart attack.
How about next taking Occam’s Razor to the proposition?
It was simpler when multiple targets were lured onto the Titanic.
Ah but the Titanic that sank was not the Titanic. The owner switched the name with the Oceania. Now to Lynch. There are no coincidences in life. All has been foreordained by the Creator.
Olympic. Still a huge number of collateral deaths. Enjoy the Federal Reserve System!
What? Switched the name? Cite please.
I read a very detailed article about this, but my apologies, can't give you a reference. Photos of the two ships show the slight variations, such as the funnels, windows on the top decks and several other small details. The ship which sailed under the name Titanic was, according to drawings, previous photos, those who worked building both ships was the Oceana, with several passengers, for various reasons, cancelling their passage at the last moment. I recall from the article those passengers who were "in the know " were named in the article. Sorry I can't provide a reference.
Was there a point to switching out the ships?
98.2% chance that the deaths were not coincidental according to this Substack post with ChatGPT analysis
https://open.substack.com/pub/nakedemperor/p/foul-play-bayesian-analysis-on-the?r=ns7oo&utm_medium=ios
Thanks Rick that's what I was looking for - the actual odds of it happening
Thank you for posting this substack. Interesting. I just made the same prediction above after Mark Leone's explanation of what the software can do. I'm very poor at understanding tech, but I see exactly what this article predicts. More so, actually. Both Autonomy and Darkforce are predictors on such a fundamental level that they can construe the future. I think most likely that many timelines are generated through their software. Then, reasonable analysis must be exerted to determine the most likely, but indeed, this is predictive software at a breathtaking level.
Wow….. this is like a sci-fi movie…. Maybe they used the software and predicted something and found d out the truth about something else? Who knows what’s going g on…..
Time matters in this analysis. The question must be asked before the events, and is obviously so obscure as to NOT be asked prior to the occurrence, which seems to assert Human-Agency at work.
So, what were these guys working on? Anybody know?
So far it appears they were working on celebrating successfully getting away with defrauding HP (or not).
HP insisted they cooked the books to arrive at a valuation for the sale, and that it was inflated by 9 billion. I assume they were not amused by the friendly jury in SF. They waited a long time for the legal process to play out, and didn't get the answer they wanted.
True, aj. However, the CEO at the time of purchase had been warned in a pre-purchase investigation/report that Autonomy was overpricing but still wanted the purchase because he saw enormous potential. I wrote more above. This is a very curious case.
Working on having a good time with their 11 billion
Were they awarded financial damages that were yet to be assigned to heirs? The proximity of the two incidents does seem odd, along with why the media silence from the survivors. Have we heard anything at all?
I think crooks and politicians have figured out that the justice system is so slow, that you can commit any crime. Then it takes forever to prove a crime, and by the time it is solved, the money's spent and/or the power has already been wielded illegally and witnesses are all dead. It's like 1930s gangsters all over again. If the goal is money or power, the mission is already a success before "justice" has been "completed".
Please don't call it a justice system. It is a legal system in which justice is virtually non existent.
The Justice System's the thing
Wherein no personnel go Ding!
Do believe these improbable events claimed as average among those perpetrating them and covering-up in the corrupt Legacy Media are going to increase dramatically. The Demons Hiding in Human Being Suits are exposed more than ever in their evil history and their only option is to escalate all chaos, crises and attack.
ANYTHING GOES FOR THOSE HAVING NO BOUNDARIES DIRECTING OWNERSHIP OF BUSINESS AND TECHNOLOGY TO EVIL AS THEMSELVES.
Steve Kirsch gets into the weeds of statistical manipulation. https://kirschsubstack.com/
This is somewhat similar to the plot of a movie called the mechanic, where a retired assassin has to kill three people within a few days of each other and make all of the deaths look like an accident. In this case, truth may be stranger than fiction.
Whoa - dude….. Talk about Black Swan events…