False flag or accidental missile strike on Polish border identified in 2019 simulation as possible spark for a nuclear war with Russia. Do the hawks in Washington want nuclear war?
In response to a reader comment, I (John Leake) would like to add the following to my original post in which I posed the question: "Is it possible that certain hawks in Washington want nuclear war with Russia?" To be sure, I do NOT know if certain persons in Washington WANT nuclear war, but I've seen zero evidence of anyone in our government making any effort to deescalate this conflict and seek a negotiated settlement. The doctrine of "unconditional surrender" (urged by Stalin and adopted by Roosevelt and Churchill) against Nazi Germany is now apparently considered the ONLY acceptable doctrine in warfare, but I doubt the rationality of this. Whoever is in charge of our government seems to think that --with an endless supply of Nato weaponry and training going to Ukraine --Ukraine will succeed in pushing Russia out of the eastern territories and Crimea. But is this a truly realistic assumption? Likewise, it is safe to assume that if Putin's back is to the wall, he won't use a tactical (battlefield) nuclear weapon to defend his position? I keep hearing that he stands too far outside of civilized norms to be a negotiating partner, so what is the basis for the assumption he won't use a tactical nuke if his back is to the wall? It reminds me of the assumption that Saddam Hussein DID possess WMD, but would NOT use them against an invading US military. Per the simulation referenced in the Federalist article, it is well understood in military circles that war is a very unpredictable business that can rapidly and unexpectedly escalate. Accidents, miscommunications, and miscalculations may happen, with terrible, unforeseen consequences. Our military establishment knows this, but apparently considers the territorial integrity of Ukraine to be so vital to the interests of the American citizenry that it warrants an all or nothing approach with Russia, even if it means placing the American citizenry at an elevated risk of nuclear war. Finally, the you will note that my post is animated with a general spirit of distrust of the US government and mainstream media. The conduct of our government in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya--not to mention its catastrophic pandemic response --caused me to lose faith in its prudence and competence.
That was the Ukraine plan! Even the claim of Ukraine firing the missiles because of an incoming Russian missile is false. The goal was to use the missiles as a false flag to draw NATO in, but too many are wising up to the lies coming out of Ukraine and the media! A lot less people fell for this one and it was debunked almost right away. What’s telling is those people with the data available to them knew that it was Ukraine all along, but still threw shade on Russia!
Yes, they want nuclear war. No, we cannot believe anything AP says about ANYTHING -- not wars, not COVID, not elections, not ANYTHING. They've lied and misinformed and misled readers for years. They are involved with the "Trusted News Initiative (TNI)" which is not to be trusted.
TNI Members / Partners include: : AFP, AP, BBC, CBC/Radio-Canada, European Broadcasting Union (EBU), Facebook, Financial Times, First Draft, Google/YouTube, The Hindu, LA Times, Microsoft, Project Origin, Reuters, The New York Times, Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, Twitter, The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post.
I'd steer clear of any of the above if you want actual news instead of fake news that's likely to start WWIII and promote other policies that are bad for human health and welfare.
I wish we could put these warmongers into a fenced in field out in the wilderness and let them duke it out with one another and end the madness. I know, it's fantasy.
I believe the opposite of anything I read or see on mainstream media.
There are independant investigative journalists on the ground reporting on the true situation....do the journalists sitting in their offices in Washington or elsewhere know something that they don't??
We haven't been dragged into a far-flung war in decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria, and now Ukraine are of our own making. Al-qaeda and ISIS have never been an enemy. The US is the problem and hasn't been an innocent participant in...well, forever.
Sounds like a hostile act on a NATO country (Poland) by Ukraine? Or do "double-standards" exist in the mainstream narratives. I'd call on NATO to defend Poland from Ukraine if the evidence is solid. I guess there is no appetite for such a move however!
And they are all in Bali wearing their matching batik red shirts relishing our spiking cortisol, rolling in their spineless sadist amoral egotism and dark triad personalities like wart hogs at a mud bog. At the very least, we are all being terrorized by fears of WWIII or nuclear strikes. Whatever the next tectonic shift is on their agenda (and who that possessive pronoun refers to is fill-in-the-blank), Schwab and Xi and the Canadian investor in euthanasia and children's death and suffering need a crisis to usher it in, or many tentacled crises simultaneously.
"I didn't know I had permission to murder and to maim.." Leonard Cohen "You Want it Darker"
I don't believe you know the truth. I don't believe we ever will. Maybe Russia did,maybe not. Maybe NATO planned it. Maybe not. Unless you or I were there, we can only surmise what really happened-for the next decade.
In response to a reader comment, I (John Leake) would like to add the following to my original post in which I posed the question: "Is it possible that certain hawks in Washington want nuclear war with Russia?" To be sure, I do NOT know if certain persons in Washington WANT nuclear war, but I've seen zero evidence of anyone in our government making any effort to deescalate this conflict and seek a negotiated settlement. The doctrine of "unconditional surrender" (urged by Stalin and adopted by Roosevelt and Churchill) against Nazi Germany is now apparently considered the ONLY acceptable doctrine in warfare, but I doubt the rationality of this. Whoever is in charge of our government seems to think that --with an endless supply of Nato weaponry and training going to Ukraine --Ukraine will succeed in pushing Russia out of the eastern territories and Crimea. But is this a truly realistic assumption? Likewise, it is safe to assume that if Putin's back is to the wall, he won't use a tactical (battlefield) nuclear weapon to defend his position? I keep hearing that he stands too far outside of civilized norms to be a negotiating partner, so what is the basis for the assumption he won't use a tactical nuke if his back is to the wall? It reminds me of the assumption that Saddam Hussein DID possess WMD, but would NOT use them against an invading US military. Per the simulation referenced in the Federalist article, it is well understood in military circles that war is a very unpredictable business that can rapidly and unexpectedly escalate. Accidents, miscommunications, and miscalculations may happen, with terrible, unforeseen consequences. Our military establishment knows this, but apparently considers the territorial integrity of Ukraine to be so vital to the interests of the American citizenry that it warrants an all or nothing approach with Russia, even if it means placing the American citizenry at an elevated risk of nuclear war. Finally, the you will note that my post is animated with a general spirit of distrust of the US government and mainstream media. The conduct of our government in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya--not to mention its catastrophic pandemic response --caused me to lose faith in its prudence and competence.
That was the Ukraine plan! Even the claim of Ukraine firing the missiles because of an incoming Russian missile is false. The goal was to use the missiles as a false flag to draw NATO in, but too many are wising up to the lies coming out of Ukraine and the media! A lot less people fell for this one and it was debunked almost right away. What’s telling is those people with the data available to them knew that it was Ukraine all along, but still threw shade on Russia!
Yes, they want nuclear war. No, we cannot believe anything AP says about ANYTHING -- not wars, not COVID, not elections, not ANYTHING. They've lied and misinformed and misled readers for years. They are involved with the "Trusted News Initiative (TNI)" which is not to be trusted.
See https://www.keywiki.org/Trusted_News_Initiative.
TNI Members / Partners include: : AFP, AP, BBC, CBC/Radio-Canada, European Broadcasting Union (EBU), Facebook, Financial Times, First Draft, Google/YouTube, The Hindu, LA Times, Microsoft, Project Origin, Reuters, The New York Times, Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, Twitter, The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post.
I'd steer clear of any of the above if you want actual news instead of fake news that's likely to start WWIII and promote other policies that are bad for human health and welfare.
I wish we could put these warmongers into a fenced in field out in the wilderness and let them duke it out with one another and end the madness. I know, it's fantasy.
Lunatics running the asylum. God help us.
I believe the opposite of anything I read or see on mainstream media.
There are independant investigative journalists on the ground reporting on the true situation....do the journalists sitting in their offices in Washington or elsewhere know something that they don't??
If Ukraine hit Poland, then we’re bound by treaty to attack Ukraine…per the nato charter…
The answer to your three questions is "yes". Sad, ain't it!
Yes, Biden had to say not fired from Russia to calm it down
I have more faith in anything produced by the Babylon Bee than I do in the TNI or any western government.
Biden wants to send the Nazi another $34 billion.
Thank you for posting.
We haven't been dragged into a far-flung war in decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria, and now Ukraine are of our own making. Al-qaeda and ISIS have never been an enemy. The US is the problem and hasn't been an innocent participant in...well, forever.
Sounds like a hostile act on a NATO country (Poland) by Ukraine? Or do "double-standards" exist in the mainstream narratives. I'd call on NATO to defend Poland from Ukraine if the evidence is solid. I guess there is no appetite for such a move however!
And they are all in Bali wearing their matching batik red shirts relishing our spiking cortisol, rolling in their spineless sadist amoral egotism and dark triad personalities like wart hogs at a mud bog. At the very least, we are all being terrorized by fears of WWIII or nuclear strikes. Whatever the next tectonic shift is on their agenda (and who that possessive pronoun refers to is fill-in-the-blank), Schwab and Xi and the Canadian investor in euthanasia and children's death and suffering need a crisis to usher it in, or many tentacled crises simultaneously.
"I didn't know I had permission to murder and to maim.." Leonard Cohen "You Want it Darker"
As far as I can see the American military leader said that no matter what, Russia is still responsible. Is this true?
I don't believe you know the truth. I don't believe we ever will. Maybe Russia did,maybe not. Maybe NATO planned it. Maybe not. Unless you or I were there, we can only surmise what really happened-for the next decade.