The survivors should have the most compelling facts as evidence leading to what the basis for the sinking the finest unsinkable sail boat ever built. But the Titanic once boasted a similar claim.
The world is still full of men and women that have spent a lifetime on sailing vessels that can open the "What if's"? Please do.
The survivors will be 'kidnapped' (held against their will) and the have their memories 'wiped' (and 'new memories' installed?). People would be amazed at just how often this is done.
So, whatever these survivors say, in the coming weeks/months, should be taken with a grain of salt.
I would tend to agree that this event was a message to those involved, and a rather stark one, at that. As we are possibly seeing with the emergency landings of Trump and Vance within a week of each other, it is not beyond the pale for purposeful mechanical failure of any type of transportation, whether car, boat or plane. I did not ‘investigate’ anything about the first partner’s car crash in this current situation, but it would be interesting to see if there was a possible mechanical failure in that car crash, as well.
Very interesting subject. It's unfortunate that possible murder based on concurrent, seeming accidents makes for the stuff of detective novels made real.
Well, I am an epidemiologist and use statistics. This is not a statistical issue, as your friend says. For it to be one, first you have too small a sample (2 events) and a very wide set of constraints in your hypothesis. It is certainly not a Bayes problem. It is a detective story, as he says. Bayes theorem is all very well, even with multiple iterations, but in reality has less utility than it might at first seem to have. On the issue of the keel, I have sailed many yachts with retracting keels. They are there for stopping leeway under sail, not primarily as ballast against heeling. The yacht will have a ballast keel and will have been designed (I hope) to survive a 90 degree knock down with the keel up. Such a yacht must be able to survive a serious knock-down, but of course it may be a monster. There are plenty of yachts (I have sailed on ) which are designed for lots of guests to sit on in harbour and drink gin. My friend, the late Stuart Smith had a monster catamaran that when presented with a bit of a blow once in the Ionian Sea when I was on board felt like it was coming apart at the seams. Big fibreglass sailing yachts are potential death traps. Remember Edward Heath's Morning Cloud capsize?
Oh, good points!! And now an Italian investigation. I'm reminded of an Italian detective show I streamed a number of years ago. Another tortured, modern detective. He performed much as I always envisioned the Icelandic and Scandinavian detectives in novels: taciturn, brooding, always thinking, never taking the easy answer. A tortured soul.
But wait!! I found it. Lynch's venture capital firm, Invoke Capital, funded Darktrace in 2013 to 40% as the largest holder. They raised 230.5 million in total. Perhaps due to the trial in the U.S., his wife and he had recently divested those funds to 7%.
"Darktrace has been hit by blistering criticism from short-seller Quintessential Capital Management.
The US-based hedge fund – run by Israeli former special forces paratrooper Gabriel Grego – said last month that Darktrace may have 'overstated' profits and held links to offshore 'shell companies' manned by 'individuals with ties to organised crime, money-laundering and fraud'."
Uh, oh. Shell companies involving organized crime, money laundering, and fraud? We suddenly have an immense menu of motives. Zounds!
Most often, a retractable keel is constructed of modern light weight materials such as carbon fibre and the lead weight will only be concentrated in the bulb (lowermost point) of the keel. It is therefore more than reasonable to assume, that righting moments of the yacht were properly calculated and that more than approx. 90 degrees of heel would be impossible; even with the keel lifted to the max. Of course, lower or waterline hatches could have been open leading to water ingress. A proper investigation should discover that. A broken mast can punch a hole in the hull (especially given time) but again a proper investigation should discover that. I heard that retrieving bodies was difficult since cabin doors were locked. Now - if that is true - why would 3 couples who knew each other well be locking their cabin doors on a private yacht?
Should we give even the tiniest fuck that some rich fuck died because his rich-guy’s toy sank in the ocean? I’d say it’s a good start. Maybe god will send more of these evil money-hoarders to the bottom of the sea where they belong.
Did a marine tornado or its equivalent actually strike?
If all the ports and hatches were closed (likely due to predicted storm), maybe a sudden radical lowering of barometric pressure could have cracked the hull, designed of course to mostly deal with compression from the exterior, not the interior. When a tornado strikes a house and the roof blows off, it is this internal pressure that lifts the roof more than merely lateral gusts.
The very fact that the sailboat was named Bayesian…
Exactly!
The survivors should have the most compelling facts as evidence leading to what the basis for the sinking the finest unsinkable sail boat ever built. But the Titanic once boasted a similar claim.
The world is still full of men and women that have spent a lifetime on sailing vessels that can open the "What if's"? Please do.
The survivors will be 'kidnapped' (held against their will) and the have their memories 'wiped' (and 'new memories' installed?). People would be amazed at just how often this is done.
So, whatever these survivors say, in the coming weeks/months, should be taken with a grain of salt.
The sweeping under a gilded rug may have already been established.
This is the revolving system of when pride and denials.....are the exact thing.
There are other higher clad names for such disorders. Let the lawyers duke it out.
It's soon to fade out of the news cycle as always......anyway......the world we live in....
I would tend to agree that this event was a message to those involved, and a rather stark one, at that. As we are possibly seeing with the emergency landings of Trump and Vance within a week of each other, it is not beyond the pale for purposeful mechanical failure of any type of transportation, whether car, boat or plane. I did not ‘investigate’ anything about the first partner’s car crash in this current situation, but it would be interesting to see if there was a possible mechanical failure in that car crash, as well.
He was on a bicycle is what I heard.
Jogging.
They were hits.
Obviously a planned coincidence
God rest their souls🙏
Very interesting subject. It's unfortunate that possible murder based on concurrent, seeming accidents makes for the stuff of detective novels made real.
Professional nudge
Well, I am an epidemiologist and use statistics. This is not a statistical issue, as your friend says. For it to be one, first you have too small a sample (2 events) and a very wide set of constraints in your hypothesis. It is certainly not a Bayes problem. It is a detective story, as he says. Bayes theorem is all very well, even with multiple iterations, but in reality has less utility than it might at first seem to have. On the issue of the keel, I have sailed many yachts with retracting keels. They are there for stopping leeway under sail, not primarily as ballast against heeling. The yacht will have a ballast keel and will have been designed (I hope) to survive a 90 degree knock down with the keel up. Such a yacht must be able to survive a serious knock-down, but of course it may be a monster. There are plenty of yachts (I have sailed on ) which are designed for lots of guests to sit on in harbour and drink gin. My friend, the late Stuart Smith had a monster catamaran that when presented with a bit of a blow once in the Ionian Sea when I was on board felt like it was coming apart at the seams. Big fibreglass sailing yachts are potential death traps. Remember Edward Heath's Morning Cloud capsize?
Dr. Risch sounds like controlled ops.
Oh, good points!! And now an Italian investigation. I'm reminded of an Italian detective show I streamed a number of years ago. Another tortured, modern detective. He performed much as I always envisioned the Icelandic and Scandinavian detectives in novels: taciturn, brooding, always thinking, never taking the easy answer. A tortured soul.
But wait!! I found it. Lynch's venture capital firm, Invoke Capital, funded Darktrace in 2013 to 40% as the largest holder. They raised 230.5 million in total. Perhaps due to the trial in the U.S., his wife and he had recently divested those funds to 7%.
"Darktrace has been hit by blistering criticism from short-seller Quintessential Capital Management.
The US-based hedge fund – run by Israeli former special forces paratrooper Gabriel Grego – said last month that Darktrace may have 'overstated' profits and held links to offshore 'shell companies' manned by 'individuals with ties to organised crime, money-laundering and fraud'."
Uh, oh. Shell companies involving organized crime, money laundering, and fraud? We suddenly have an immense menu of motives. Zounds!
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-11739369/Technology-tycoon-Mike-Lynch-wife-sell-100m-stake-Darktrace.html
Most often, a retractable keel is constructed of modern light weight materials such as carbon fibre and the lead weight will only be concentrated in the bulb (lowermost point) of the keel. It is therefore more than reasonable to assume, that righting moments of the yacht were properly calculated and that more than approx. 90 degrees of heel would be impossible; even with the keel lifted to the max. Of course, lower or waterline hatches could have been open leading to water ingress. A proper investigation should discover that. A broken mast can punch a hole in the hull (especially given time) but again a proper investigation should discover that. I heard that retrieving bodies was difficult since cabin doors were locked. Now - if that is true - why would 3 couples who knew each other well be locking their cabin doors on a private yacht?
Does the average person just trying to make a living care about what happened to some ultra billionaire's super craft? Nada.
Should we give even the tiniest fuck that some rich fuck died because his rich-guy’s toy sank in the ocean? I’d say it’s a good start. Maybe god will send more of these evil money-hoarders to the bottom of the sea where they belong.
More skullduggery on the high seas!! argg!
What was the hull material?
Did a marine tornado or its equivalent actually strike?
If all the ports and hatches were closed (likely due to predicted storm), maybe a sudden radical lowering of barometric pressure could have cracked the hull, designed of course to mostly deal with compression from the exterior, not the interior. When a tornado strikes a house and the roof blows off, it is this internal pressure that lifts the roof more than merely lateral gusts.
I believe this was an act of God.