California is the state that spearheaded ballot harvesting. Theories of why voters do this or that are outmoded in the current times since the results of the election have little do with voters voting, especially in California.
A big clue is the delay in results. Many places are still claiming to have only 55-75% of the ballots counted. It doesn't take a week to count. Mail-in ballots from San Jose showed up in a ravine in the Santa Cruz mountains. There's video of the last election before this where people had the apt complex postal service master key and were grabbing all the ballots from the mailboxes the day they were delivered. Also there was video of ballots being taken out of residential mailboxes.
What do voters have to do with California elections? What I tell myself is that I vote so that it will result in the cheating costing more funds and effort and that is about the best I can hope for.
I don’t understand why the corrupt election process is not front and center in this conversation.
This is where the people actually do the work that identifies them as democrats. People aka Mules are being paid to cheat to win. Winning by cheating is the goal, but we are blind to that fact. It’s convoluted but to identify as a winner is more important than anything else. It make them feel good to win, so damn the torpedoes. Whatever it takes to win. Who cares about ethics and outcomes.
You are correct! Voter Apathy is at an all time high. Individuals just vote the party without reading a voter pamphlet, let alone a news article. As long as entitlements and all the conveniences to which we are accustomed keep coming, our voters will continue their position of being completely ignorant, uncaring, and pleasure seeking. Let’s see how all this shakes out when we pay $10/gal for gas and it costs $50 to buy a steak.
You write: "Because I have never identified myself with either political party, I am able to see the shortcomings of both. For my entire adult life, I have preferred candidates not for their party affiliation, but for their dedication to preserving our civilization. For me, it’s not about Republicans vs. Democrats, but about civilization vs chaos." However....
While that might sound like a reasonable thing to do, it no longer applies. The reason people vote along party lines is because the candidates vote along party lines. As soon as Biden got in, his party rammed through tons of very expensive spending bills that were all passed along the party line. If you step out of line, you get punished; in fact, you don't even get to run. So people know what democrats want and they know what republicans want. Your only choice is to vote for the party that will cause you the least harm; that is, you vote for the party, not the candidate.
What is happening here all around us in America is the result of the international kleptocrats running the planet currently. The plans as accurately interpreted in some alternative media forums - shows diabolical intent.
Voting doesn’t matter. Voter education doesn’t matter. Only corruption and cheating matter. The best cheaters are the biggest winners. Few exceptions to this rule -- you could name only a handful of people when all should share the goals of a strong America and a thriving populace.
Corruption and cheating are rampant in both major parties, with few exceptions. Unless and until our country gets serious about election integrity laws and enforcing the mostly decent laws that it has, we will continue to sink into misery and chaos. Most in power do not want the system to change; if it did, they would lose power.
That’s the grand design: rule by a few elites, destruction for the rest of us. We fled to a presumed conservative state only to discover that the establishment Republicans are almost as bad as the worst of the Democrats, just a few years behind them.
We and others worked like crazy on several campaigns for true patriots whose only desire was to ensure peace and prosperity for all, and to uphold the Constitutions of the US and the State -- not their own self-interest. We pounded pavement, educated voters, wrote messages, all to no avail. These candidates lost, and I do not believe they lost only because people failed to vote for them.
The entire west coast has been Californicated resulting from the big tech influence in the Bay Area, Seattle, and Portland. Money is power and unfortunately corruption always results. Elections are bought and the people who buy them live in gated communities so they don’t have to deal with the problems of lawlessness. The Paul Pelosi beating sent shock waves through the Jeni’s Ice Cream class, but it is the underclasses that have to live in the squalor perpetrated by the hedonistic “Progressives.” “Never let a crisis go to waste,” is how these self-serving do gooders keep us under their heavy thumb.
In 2017 I moved to Texas from Seattle and the best move ever!
Washington state is in decline under "godless" democrat leadership, they do not care about the people, only about the money.
I love Governor Abbott! He is a decisive, strong leader and a devout Godly Catholic man...makes all the different in the direction of the state of Texas. So glad godless Beto lost!
It's all lies! The nation is 75% right. If CA was 66% lefty why would they need ballot harvesting? Why would they fight voter ID? Why do they hide the VOTE COUNTING MACHINE "programing" from the citizens? IF these dim zone cities and states are for real, why don't they open all vote data to sunshine?
I attribute much of this to voters who want to believe in the false utopian ideas that pervade the Democratic party, i.e. tent cities for addicts. When you run programs for the homeless, to establish any type of order, you have to insist on no drugs/alcohol, and this is now seen as draconian and akin to a Republican scheme. To make any dent in this crisis, there has to be a door out of it for the people who are trapped, and that door is sobriety, but it's difficult, painful, ugly to experience and so we allow people the long-term destruction with the lethal outcome rather than the shorter term, though very hard, path to some type of existence in reality. I'll never forget the client who came to my office, after much work was done to find housing for her, who refused the housing because she'd been provided with a flimsy tent, where she could smoke all the pot she wanted and live without rules. She had been raped multiple times as a child and adult, basically raised herself, and had brief success in structured living situations, but the people providing the tent ensured her failure to survive. I doubt any of those people were taking this girl's distressed phone calls at 3 a.m.
This is so true. Self sabotage expert Jason Christoff speaks to this point—people want to live their entire lives avoiding pain and that’s why they get more pain.
It’s so sad as we have the money and the resources to fix this problem and so much more here and around the world but we don’t. We just keep kicking the can down the road...it’s despicable.
I've never understood that.. Their city is crime infested and they are afraid to walk the streets at night, but fully controlled by one party, and they still vote for only that party. Is it the slightly more handouts that are promised? Is the affiliation with one party overriding all rationality? It logically makes zero sense.
How about a third party to vote for and turn to for common sense one day? LOL!! Ok, I'm being a smart...ss, we tried that in Canada and obviously it never worked LOL!!
Yes, the good people on Covid19 and I agree. But has either party done anything about autism? Predicted by 2026, 1 in every 2 children will be diagnosed with autism(Dr. Stephanie Seneff). I have met DeSantis personally a few years back regarding autism, and there was never a further response from him. There are upwards of 40,00 children and young adults with autism in Florida on a waiting list for a waiver. Both parties are still smitten with Big Pharma.
Very similar to my take on the issue. I would add to this the incredibly deep programing, brainwashing or formation - take your pic on terms. Cultism in its many forms ( religious, science, educational training and the indoctrination that comes with it, political, etc) seems to be an embedded need in the human psyche. Your argument that it helps to create self identity. But the need for identification with a tribe or cult (the word I prefer since I think it most correctly defines things) sets a person up for the deep programing or indoctrination that comes with any of these cults. Once programmed a person really has a hard time - impossible in many cases - extracting their thinking processes from the cult and into independent thinking with red flags that announce possible faulty thoughts and ideas from cult leaders and educators. This is what I see in CA and elsewhere. Massive numbers of programmed psyches who simply cannot think outside the boxes (mental prison cells) of their indoctrination. If you move a person too quickly out of such deep programming you set them up for an internal dissonance strong enough to cause self destructive behavior. The psyche will work hard to prevent that. Thus, it goes along with the programing. I’m not sure what the answer to this is. Every aspect of education is coupled with indoctrination and programing in all societies. Including spiritual education. I don’t know how we, as humans, can teach ideas, science, philosophy without programing the students. I really think we need to figure this out, though, as I think it ultimately represents our ability to step outside our historical hamster wheel of repetitive behaviors. And thus growth in all areas as both individuals and societies.
California is the state that spearheaded ballot harvesting. Theories of why voters do this or that are outmoded in the current times since the results of the election have little do with voters voting, especially in California.
A big clue is the delay in results. Many places are still claiming to have only 55-75% of the ballots counted. It doesn't take a week to count. Mail-in ballots from San Jose showed up in a ravine in the Santa Cruz mountains. There's video of the last election before this where people had the apt complex postal service master key and were grabbing all the ballots from the mailboxes the day they were delivered. Also there was video of ballots being taken out of residential mailboxes.
What do voters have to do with California elections? What I tell myself is that I vote so that it will result in the cheating costing more funds and effort and that is about the best I can hope for.
Spot on.
I don’t understand why the corrupt election process is not front and center in this conversation.
This is where the people actually do the work that identifies them as democrats. People aka Mules are being paid to cheat to win. Winning by cheating is the goal, but we are blind to that fact. It’s convoluted but to identify as a winner is more important than anything else. It make them feel good to win, so damn the torpedoes. Whatever it takes to win. Who cares about ethics and outcomes.
Exactly right. It’s down to basic “good vs evil”. At this point, I question what it will take before the blind open their eyes.
You are correct! Voter Apathy is at an all time high. Individuals just vote the party without reading a voter pamphlet, let alone a news article. As long as entitlements and all the conveniences to which we are accustomed keep coming, our voters will continue their position of being completely ignorant, uncaring, and pleasure seeking. Let’s see how all this shakes out when we pay $10/gal for gas and it costs $50 to buy a steak.
You write: "Because I have never identified myself with either political party, I am able to see the shortcomings of both. For my entire adult life, I have preferred candidates not for their party affiliation, but for their dedication to preserving our civilization. For me, it’s not about Republicans vs. Democrats, but about civilization vs chaos." However....
While that might sound like a reasonable thing to do, it no longer applies. The reason people vote along party lines is because the candidates vote along party lines. As soon as Biden got in, his party rammed through tons of very expensive spending bills that were all passed along the party line. If you step out of line, you get punished; in fact, you don't even get to run. So people know what democrats want and they know what republicans want. Your only choice is to vote for the party that will cause you the least harm; that is, you vote for the party, not the candidate.
What is happening here all around us in America is the result of the international kleptocrats running the planet currently. The plans as accurately interpreted in some alternative media forums - shows diabolical intent.
The same is happening in Vancouver, Toronto, and smaller Canadian cities. It's almost like it is by design...
Voting doesn’t matter. Voter education doesn’t matter. Only corruption and cheating matter. The best cheaters are the biggest winners. Few exceptions to this rule -- you could name only a handful of people when all should share the goals of a strong America and a thriving populace.
Corruption and cheating are rampant in both major parties, with few exceptions. Unless and until our country gets serious about election integrity laws and enforcing the mostly decent laws that it has, we will continue to sink into misery and chaos. Most in power do not want the system to change; if it did, they would lose power.
That’s the grand design: rule by a few elites, destruction for the rest of us. We fled to a presumed conservative state only to discover that the establishment Republicans are almost as bad as the worst of the Democrats, just a few years behind them.
We and others worked like crazy on several campaigns for true patriots whose only desire was to ensure peace and prosperity for all, and to uphold the Constitutions of the US and the State -- not their own self-interest. We pounded pavement, educated voters, wrote messages, all to no avail. These candidates lost, and I do not believe they lost only because people failed to vote for them.
The entire west coast has been Californicated resulting from the big tech influence in the Bay Area, Seattle, and Portland. Money is power and unfortunately corruption always results. Elections are bought and the people who buy them live in gated communities so they don’t have to deal with the problems of lawlessness. The Paul Pelosi beating sent shock waves through the Jeni’s Ice Cream class, but it is the underclasses that have to live in the squalor perpetrated by the hedonistic “Progressives.” “Never let a crisis go to waste,” is how these self-serving do gooders keep us under their heavy thumb.
In 2017 I moved to Texas from Seattle and the best move ever!
Washington state is in decline under "godless" democrat leadership, they do not care about the people, only about the money.
I love Governor Abbott! He is a decisive, strong leader and a devout Godly Catholic man...makes all the different in the direction of the state of Texas. So glad godless Beto lost!
It's all lies! The nation is 75% right. If CA was 66% lefty why would they need ballot harvesting? Why would they fight voter ID? Why do they hide the VOTE COUNTING MACHINE "programing" from the citizens? IF these dim zone cities and states are for real, why don't they open all vote data to sunshine?
I attribute much of this to voters who want to believe in the false utopian ideas that pervade the Democratic party, i.e. tent cities for addicts. When you run programs for the homeless, to establish any type of order, you have to insist on no drugs/alcohol, and this is now seen as draconian and akin to a Republican scheme. To make any dent in this crisis, there has to be a door out of it for the people who are trapped, and that door is sobriety, but it's difficult, painful, ugly to experience and so we allow people the long-term destruction with the lethal outcome rather than the shorter term, though very hard, path to some type of existence in reality. I'll never forget the client who came to my office, after much work was done to find housing for her, who refused the housing because she'd been provided with a flimsy tent, where she could smoke all the pot she wanted and live without rules. She had been raped multiple times as a child and adult, basically raised herself, and had brief success in structured living situations, but the people providing the tent ensured her failure to survive. I doubt any of those people were taking this girl's distressed phone calls at 3 a.m.
This is so true. Self sabotage expert Jason Christoff speaks to this point—people want to live their entire lives avoiding pain and that’s why they get more pain.
It’s so sad as we have the money and the resources to fix this problem and so much more here and around the world but we don’t. We just keep kicking the can down the road...it’s despicable.
I've never understood that.. Their city is crime infested and they are afraid to walk the streets at night, but fully controlled by one party, and they still vote for only that party. Is it the slightly more handouts that are promised? Is the affiliation with one party overriding all rationality? It logically makes zero sense.
How about a third party to vote for and turn to for common sense one day? LOL!! Ok, I'm being a smart...ss, we tried that in Canada and obviously it never worked LOL!!
All too true. Sad to see America become a third world country.
Yes, the good people on Covid19 and I agree. But has either party done anything about autism? Predicted by 2026, 1 in every 2 children will be diagnosed with autism(Dr. Stephanie Seneff). I have met DeSantis personally a few years back regarding autism, and there was never a further response from him. There are upwards of 40,00 children and young adults with autism in Florida on a waiting list for a waiver. Both parties are still smitten with Big Pharma.
Very similar to my take on the issue. I would add to this the incredibly deep programing, brainwashing or formation - take your pic on terms. Cultism in its many forms ( religious, science, educational training and the indoctrination that comes with it, political, etc) seems to be an embedded need in the human psyche. Your argument that it helps to create self identity. But the need for identification with a tribe or cult (the word I prefer since I think it most correctly defines things) sets a person up for the deep programing or indoctrination that comes with any of these cults. Once programmed a person really has a hard time - impossible in many cases - extracting their thinking processes from the cult and into independent thinking with red flags that announce possible faulty thoughts and ideas from cult leaders and educators. This is what I see in CA and elsewhere. Massive numbers of programmed psyches who simply cannot think outside the boxes (mental prison cells) of their indoctrination. If you move a person too quickly out of such deep programming you set them up for an internal dissonance strong enough to cause self destructive behavior. The psyche will work hard to prevent that. Thus, it goes along with the programing. I’m not sure what the answer to this is. Every aspect of education is coupled with indoctrination and programing in all societies. Including spiritual education. I don’t know how we, as humans, can teach ideas, science, philosophy without programing the students. I really think we need to figure this out, though, as I think it ultimately represents our ability to step outside our historical hamster wheel of repetitive behaviors. And thus growth in all areas as both individuals and societies.