If Professor Guy McPherson is correct we face imminent extinction as a result of shutting down heavy carbon emitters like coal power stations as part of decarbonisation which will lead to a rapid warming spike as all the aerosols in the atmosphere disappear, passing imminent climate tipping points. We were lucky to escape extinction from covid lockdowns. Carbon emissions caused warming in the past but in 2009 the methane clathrate gun was fired. That is, the warming due to carbon emissions triggered the large scale release of methane from under the arctic. This will lead to irreversible abrupt climate change and extinction between 2026 and 2030. Heat waves during those years will involve unsurvivable wet bulb temperatures to which we cannot adapt. Millions will die in a single day, at first in Nevada, Arizona and Western California and on the Indian subcontinent. The area affected will grow and this will be repeated day after day until all human life is extinct by no later than 2030. We may be able to delay this by a few years if we avoid further covid lockdowns and increase carbon emissions but we cannot stop it. Our past carbon emissions set the train in motion but it is far too late, and actually counterproductive, to try to stop them now. The major tipping points have already been passed. Climate change is not, as most alarmists imagine, slow and gradual. It's abrupt and irreversible and extinction is imminent, within less than a decade. Claims that urgent action can stop climate extinction is hopium.
All of this is such a load of ... good grief what is the point if everything is “omg we’re all gonna die by 2030 and it’s irreversible “-- there. THERE. Can’t even fix it even if it were possible to fix. It’s really beyond. And boring
It may comfort you to know that if recent heatwaves are as hot and humid as it's possible to get then everything will be just fine. The recent wet bulb temeratures need to be exceeded by a couple of degrees in order for human extinction to occur. Take comfort also in knowing that other climate scientists call McPherson "a conspiracy theorist." He claims that the UN IPCC and other climate scientists know that the idea that it can be stopped is a fraud but are covering it up. They also point out that despite his criticisms of their models and methodology he's not one of them. Although he's published extensively on mechanisms of climate change he's actually a species adaptation capability specialist. Or he was. He's retrained as a grief counselor and as a trainer of grief counselors.
You go where the research and data send you in search of truth. He’s always stood for that, has to in court taking on the oligarchs, so I’m not sure objectively you can support he supports oligarchs.
No, instead they tear them down, by the millions, and put up "green energy" solar panels. There is NO WAY that I believe solar panels are better than the forests for the environment. Where are the numbers? I would love to see those calculations.
Recycle them! My brother once worked for a company making cadmium telluride solar panels. They didn't sell them, but recycled them when they broke or wore out. Can't the same apply to other varieties of photovoltaics?
Windmills are more difficult to recycle. (I suppose you could distill the monomers out of the fiberglass, and burn the carbon out of the remaining glass.) High winds wear them out. If they can't be feasibly recycled, remediate the waste and quit using them. Make the installers post recycling and reclamation bonds.
I doubt they'll throw rarer-than-gold tellurium away. (And I sure hope they don't turn the cadmium into a pollutant!) As for the silicon, grind it to fine powder and let the Silicon Slopes people ski on it. (Or use it to fill dirigibles. Sorry, wrong century!)
Very surprising that Kennedy seems to conflate the unproven hypothesis of man-made climate change with environmental issues, such as water and air pollution, deforestation, and so on, problems that any rational person would want to address and eliminate. These are two completely different things. The supposed cause of runaway man-made climate change, CO2, i.e. carbon dioxide, is not a pollutant: it’s an odourless, invisible gas, essential to life on earth. And scientific evidence shows that a rise in CO2 FOLLOWS warming, rather than causes it.
Exactly, it has to do with Henry’s law of the equilibrium between CO2 dissolved in the oceans and the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. After the Younger Dryas, some 12,000 years ago, the Earth finally came out of glaciation, the oceans started to warm up 800 years _after_ the atmosphere warmed up, starting to release the dissolved CO2.
In the dark ages when I was raised...carbon was taught to be part of all living things. Animals(even humans) need oxygen to breathe. We exhale CO2 which plants "inhale" and produced oxygen. The eugenicists(Rockefeller) who created phama want to break God's laws.
Kennedy subsequently addressed the comments in a 2014 post on the site EcoWatch, asserting that he “support[ed] the First Amendment.” He also said that “corporations which deliberately, purposefully, maliciously and systematically sponsor climate lies should be given the death penalty” and have their charters revoked.
Kennedy’s campaign did not respond to the Daily Caller’s request for comment on whether he still maintains those positions. In a June interview with ReasonTV, Kennedy said that he was referring to a case where Koch Carbon had been dumping petroleum coke in piles along the Detroit River. He added that he does not currently believe that any organization that takes money from climate skeptics should receive the “corporate death penalty” and that he would not have made those statements in light of the censorship around the recent COVID-19 crisis.
My take: RFK Jr. has aspirations NOW and he sees that his extreme stances are a huge red flag, so he back pedals. What’s new? Who’s to say he won’t change his mind again, if he has really changed it now? Climate change lockdowns will be far more devastating than plandemic lockdowns and will do what covid couldn’t achieve. You might be able to fool some of the people some of the time...I can’t wait to see the “safe vaccines” he’ll support. Don’t even get me started on the hypocrisy of climate change extremists!
I always supported general mitigation of risk - I felt guilty using a lot of fuel, supported tree plantings, and accepted the redirection of public funds for green purposes.
However, in 2006 I got the vibe that Big Corporates had found a way to profit from "Climate", with Climate suddenly becoming real in all the major media outlets, rather than an academic idea that some people were concerned about.
Some people would say I had changed. I still support continued human learning of climate related issues (I think the system is far greater than can be modelled with basic atmospheric science) but I am very sceptical of all the climate propaganda. So people's public statements can take different slants.
Understand Kennedy's supporting demographic - he's been anti-chemical pollution for years so that brings in a lot of people with green concerns, which include the climate.
All that is necessary for mass deaths of humans to occur is for sustained heatwaves in which there is a slight increase in the wet bulb temperature of recent heatwaves. It's prudent to mitigate risk.
I'm not sure atm that the important part of 'mitigating risk' is about reducing carbon output, nor am I sure that we are able to do anything about the temperatures we may see (hot or cold). I've become quite interested in the observations of The Ethical Skeptic https://theethicalskeptic.com/
Humans are very intelligent and adaptive... it was suggested in one of these courageous discourse blogs that a few doctors could've solved most of the problem with the pandemic with a couple of basic drugs/vitamins to mitigate the worst damage. I think people could do exactly the same with various climate outcomes. But 'the powers' sought profit from the pandemic and didn't like any cheap solutions undermining it - the same now applies to climate. I think the 'risk' we need to mitigate is corporate, wealth and political. Without them, the regular people will typically look after each other, and come up with solutions.
As is typical of the recommendations of bureaucrats, "reducing carbon output" may not "mitigate risk." On the contrary, if it's reduced quickly and dramatically, it could, within a time frame of a few weeks, not months or years, trigger an unsurvivable and irreversible temperature change, one that it is biologically impossible for us to adapt to. Our high level of carbon emissions may be a necessary condition for our species remaining alive, albeit for only slightly longer than would otherwise be the case. Sadly, although Stephen Hawking might have been correct that we as a species are, right now, on the very edge of extinction, his estimate that we have 100 years left, unless we get the hell off this planet in that time, may be wildly optimistic. Mitigating risk may be simply a matter of buying time, by maintaining or increasing carbon output. The time when reducing carbon output would have been helpful likely passed decades ago, with a crucial tipping point having already been reached. The trajectory now is likely irreversible, with the release of arctic methane now already well under way. We may have less than 10 years, in the best case scenario.
"The aerosol masking effect, or global dimming, is a well-documented instance of our ongoing climate predicament: Efforts to mitigate greenhouse gas production by curbing industrial activity or transitioning to clean sources such as solar or nuclear inevitably and inadvertently accelerate planetary warming. This undesired outcome results from aerosols that result from industrial activity. This article describes some climate mitigation strategies destined to fail because they do not account for the aerosol masking effect."
PS: I don't think slow changes in temperature are going to bother humans too much. Through our own ingenuity the people on the planet live in such different climates, and grow different foods at different times of the year. If some areas become dryer, others will become warmer. I'm not phased by this. I think we're up for it. If the oceans are so much warmer there's going to be more rain, more growth. I think the earth is helping us grow. I think there's a bit more magic going on that the linear thinkers can't conceptualise.
Slow changes and carbon increases are no problem. The problem is abrupt changes and arctic methane from below the surface triggering 35C or 95F wet bulb temperatures, which have already begun to appear, for longer than six hours. If there's any guarantee that these can't become more frequent, more prolonged and affect a larger number of populated regions, that's great.
Scientists expected thawing wetlands in Siberia’s permafrost. What they found is ‘much more dangerous.’
Or, via The Ethical Skeptic... Atmospheric carbon is increasing primarily because the oceans are warming from below, as is the land below the glaciers and permafrost. The oceans are warming, not from the weak interaction with the marginally warmer atmosphere at the surface but because the core below threw off a bit of hot iron (initially contributing towards the slowing of the earth's rotation (conservation of angular momentum)) with the eventual transferral of heat the mantle.
With heat energy now transferred, there is a consequent contraction, which is (very suddenly) leading to the earth actually increasing its rotational speed for the first time in a long time. Rather than adding a leap second every few years we may now be removing them.
The Ethical Skeptic refers to the Extraordinary (reported) increase in ocean temperature over the last year that could not have come from atmospheric transfer - either from a bias in surface level reporting stations with the arrival of El Nino, and/or from a superheated El Nino current coming up from geothermal activity around the south pole.
Personally, I think heating the oceans from below is far more plausible than from above.
Re the aerosols... The (sizeable) shut downs of industry and the stopping of planes and private vehicles through the pandemic in the countries with the greatest usual output (China and west) made no alteration to the trajectory of atmospheric CO2, in data presented by TES. (He presented data that CO2 follows the temperature - it has not produced it.) I think the aerosol idea would argue that as a consequence of industry shutdown there were fewer aerosols, which may have contributed to warming, that would led to more temperature derived CO2, off-setting reductions in CO2 output. Yet I think TES would argue that CO2 increase is largely independent of surface level interactions, and I suspect he would point to other unexpected observances on variables that I didn't take note of closely, but include albedo.
If you want to know which direction he could take a captive American populace, just look to see where he can make the most money from his influence. We see it happen, over and over again, conflict of interests abound. But he is so nice, intelligent and empathetic. Yeah, that’s what the jabbed said and look what trouble has come upon them because they listened to the gleaming, talking heads, instead of doing their due diligence with critical thinking. It takes courage to stand against a mob, whether it be climate change extremists or pharmaceutical whores preying on the weak and vulnerable, which the whole complex of American life has created.
The climate Chance caused by humans is a fraud. All you need to do is looking at climate change for the last 20 000 years. Geoengineering or weather warfare is a concern as is pollution and destruction of nature by big corporations and the military
I've been wary of the carbon credit scheme for years, wanted to do my thesis on it. Carbon credit anyone? Just another way to make the poor pay for mistakes made by the rich and powerful.
I believe we have Climate Destruction with much of it caused by the Intensely Hotter Sun, Inner Earth and Ocean Heating caused by Inner Earth Changes and the Military-Industrial Complex's Weather Wars which they admittingly have the technology for.
But they want to Blame, Charge and Control humans like we are the cause. A $$$ and Control Grab by the UN2030 Plan and the WEF. Utter BS!!!
If he's referring to the chemicals they're depositing in the soil and air, together the environmental destruction of the 'renewables' scam then he's right. Those claiming to care are the ones doing the damage
That’s right. It’s not a matter of carbon, or even if the climate changes, but whether or not we are allowed to protect our “life support systems” on earth: Trees, Forests, Grasslands and natural life. And it’s not just outing the “carbon emissions” fraudsters killing cattle, but also ending the nonsense of cutting down trees (like in Scotland) to install windmills for money-junkies trying to sell people free electricity, and the bloody ChemTrail pilots dumping shit into our atmosphere who are pretending it’s to do what Mother Nature is being suppressed from doing for us naturally; sustain normal climate swings.
Right now, as in every subject matter, we have two binary camps.
When it comes to “climate change”, one fully believes that this is the responsibility of Man and you can amend it. The other, doesn’t even want to entertain the idea that the climate is going berserk, mainly as a backlash response to those who espouse the former.
In so doing, both equally miss the boat. Holding to any one of these set beliefs is what makes things worse since the truth is somewhere in the middle.
The reality is that we are going to experience the climate like we have never experienced before. We are going to experience natural disasters of the magnitude we have read in biblical stories and seen in Hollywood movies. They are going to challenge all our conventions about the laws of nature and how things are supposed to be: Precipitation in an hour will be equivalent to that of an entire year, huge sinkholes that swallow entire cities, extreme transitions between cold and heat, droughts, fires & deluge, you name it, are but a few examples.
The reality is that we are in the midst of a huge evolutionary change. Everything is moving towards a very different consciousness. The rules are changing, and they’re changing dramatically. They change within us, as the rules of our 'internal biology' and everything that stems from it: our psychology, our behavior, our relationships, our morals, our values, our culture and our fertility, and they change in the 'external biology' - the whole process of life on Earth.
But interestingly enough, also in everything outside of it. Our solar system, the Earth's magnetic poles, the moon's orbit, - all of them change. Even the sun has been observed to undergo extreme solar storms and coronal mass ejections.
All this to show that none of the parts that make up the whole are isolated. Everything goes through a process of change towards an ending. Not an end as an absolute end, but an end for a new beginning. In between the two there’s a transition phase, and ‘transition’ is just another word for 'death'. Boy, how afraid are we of death, no wonder we mess up the living.
But without death, there’s no birth.
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Ending of Civilizations
There are periods in the life of mankind which usually coincide with the beginning of the fall of societies and cultures, when the masses irreversibly lose their minds and begin to destroy everything that has been created by hundreds and thousands of years of civilization.
Such periods of mass madness coincide with geological disasters, extreme changes in the weather and similar phenomena of a planetary nature and the massive release of a very large amount of knowledge and information.
The Neolithic population collapse about 5500 years ago, which occurred over approximately 500 years in the mid-Holocene (~7000 to 5000 years ago), was temporally coupled to the last diminishment in geomagnetic field intensity. Perturbations in the geomagnetic field are coupled to mantle dynamics, which modulates changes in the solid outer layer of the earth’s mantle rock-water interactions and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels.
The geologic and geophysical conditions of the mid-Holocene are similar to the current conditions of the Holocene (the current geological epoch), namely, increased atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, polar ice melt-induced increased sea levels and terrestrial water storage.
Furthermore, what’s happening right now in every society anywhere in the world? Confusion, loss of common sense and mass formation. And where are we now on the line of development?! We are at the apex of the Information Age. But I want to point out that the apex of the Information Age, as an explosion of knowledge and information, is a sign to an end, not a beginning.
Right now the world believes that we are going to advance more and more in technology and A.I. but that’s only a mirage. The explosion in information and the development of technology is a sign for an end. At some point the rug is going to be pulled under our feet. At some point we are going to move from the 21st century to the 11th century in a blink of an eye.
The end is "programmed" by nature. All of this is perpetuated by resonance: the seeding of information within us, which in turn affects everything else down the line. The mass madness and loss of common sense are just effects of that.
Nature, and I anthropomorphize, "wants" us to be confused. It "wants" us not to understand each other, and it "wants" us to annihilate each other. This is how it brings things to an end.
The problem is always lack of awareness, coupled with human vanity that believes it is in charge. A culture that believes it can control nature to suit its mental measurements. The control of society is a response to the fear and the disorder by the ending that’s felt within. Rather than learn to accept and surrender to one’s flow, there’s a rigidity and denial which then lead to the attempt to control everything.
This makes us absolutely dangerous because the decision making that stems from these changes within us, without the awareness to notice them as innate, is what ultimately exacerbates the chaos and dehumanization that’s coming.
In this way, we are marching towards a bizarre reality in which, places that will still have an abundance of resources all around, no one will get to share their light due to the decision making based on the mass formation of "climate reversal".
I do hope people recognize how easy it is to destroy hundreds of years of civilization. It has happened many times around the globe in history. I also believe humans are no where near as powerful as the forces of Nature. Behind the urgency called for in dealing with "climate change," I cannot but help sense a mistaken hubris that we are above Nature. Do we not tend to meddle excessively, only to endanger our own selves. . .
Candidate RFK Jr is simply pandering to the Dem base Climate Change cult and CO2 haters...
...just as he threw a bone to the Dem blacks, LGBTQs, and teacher unions by failing to attend the Moms for Liberty convention in July after he had *personally* accepted.
RFK Jr is a good man. But he’s running to represent an emotion-driven lockdown/vaccine crazy party (cult) who want the government to control their lives - including the Sun (see links below).
RFK Jr’s gambit is that he can make Dem voters sane in the next 15 months, while Obama, Hillary, Intel agencies, Big Pharma and Wall Street billionaires try to kill his candidacy (or worse). Note that he has been refused SS protection.
Many conflate climate and environment. I see a lot of environmental destruction in the quest to reduce carbon.
If Professor Guy McPherson is correct we face imminent extinction as a result of shutting down heavy carbon emitters like coal power stations as part of decarbonisation which will lead to a rapid warming spike as all the aerosols in the atmosphere disappear, passing imminent climate tipping points. We were lucky to escape extinction from covid lockdowns. Carbon emissions caused warming in the past but in 2009 the methane clathrate gun was fired. That is, the warming due to carbon emissions triggered the large scale release of methane from under the arctic. This will lead to irreversible abrupt climate change and extinction between 2026 and 2030. Heat waves during those years will involve unsurvivable wet bulb temperatures to which we cannot adapt. Millions will die in a single day, at first in Nevada, Arizona and Western California and on the Indian subcontinent. The area affected will grow and this will be repeated day after day until all human life is extinct by no later than 2030. We may be able to delay this by a few years if we avoid further covid lockdowns and increase carbon emissions but we cannot stop it. Our past carbon emissions set the train in motion but it is far too late, and actually counterproductive, to try to stop them now. The major tipping points have already been passed. Climate change is not, as most alarmists imagine, slow and gradual. It's abrupt and irreversible and extinction is imminent, within less than a decade. Claims that urgent action can stop climate extinction is hopium.
The aerosols/manufactured weather is brutal. Since they're targeting fuel, coal, etc., I'm assuming they'll create blizzard upon blizzard.
All of this is such a load of ... good grief what is the point if everything is “omg we’re all gonna die by 2030 and it’s irreversible “-- there. THERE. Can’t even fix it even if it were possible to fix. It’s really beyond. And boring
I think a lot of these scientists know it’s a fraud but my goodness look at what one would have to endure to stick your head above the parapet!
Thx for the info.
It may comfort you to know that if recent heatwaves are as hot and humid as it's possible to get then everything will be just fine. The recent wet bulb temeratures need to be exceeded by a couple of degrees in order for human extinction to occur. Take comfort also in knowing that other climate scientists call McPherson "a conspiracy theorist." He claims that the UN IPCC and other climate scientists know that the idea that it can be stopped is a fraud but are covering it up. They also point out that despite his criticisms of their models and methodology he's not one of them. Although he's published extensively on mechanisms of climate change he's actually a species adaptation capability specialist. Or he was. He's retrained as a grief counselor and as a trainer of grief counselors.
Weather modification is real too.
Wow -- that just convinced that RFK is an agent. Especially since we all know Carbon is what sustains life and that anything anticarbon is antihuman:
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-climate-change-is-wrong-dangerous
Zero carbon, zero life. But so many prople believe it.
An agent?
“Agent of the deep state” is like the best way to frame it. Like he still supports the goals of the oligarchs
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/who-are-the-bad-guys
You go where the research and data send you in search of truth. He’s always stood for that, has to in court taking on the oligarchs, so I’m not sure objectively you can support he supports oligarchs.
Aren't they all?
See Geoengineering with Dane Wigginham
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Chemtrails and Contrails are discussed by Robert F. Kennedy Jr and Dane Wigington of GeoEngineeringWatch
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4BAaMuJvaRXtECkcM9AecO?si=X_QMHG2RRJmelkS8uKGLSg
Thanks for sharing the link. Well worth the listen.
Spotify can't play this right now.
Check out my article on Brave New World and 1984. Essentially I think they programmed us for this time period:
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-brave-new-world-of-1984-part
Yeah, they never talk about planting trees do they?
No, instead they tear them down, by the millions, and put up "green energy" solar panels. There is NO WAY that I believe solar panels are better than the forests for the environment. Where are the numbers? I would love to see those calculations.
Recycle them! My brother once worked for a company making cadmium telluride solar panels. They didn't sell them, but recycled them when they broke or wore out. Can't the same apply to other varieties of photovoltaics?
Windmills are more difficult to recycle. (I suppose you could distill the monomers out of the fiberglass, and burn the carbon out of the remaining glass.) High winds wear them out. If they can't be feasibly recycled, remediate the waste and quit using them. Make the installers post recycling and reclamation bonds.
I read recently that the first generation of solar panels can’t be recycled and are sitting in dumps decaying/leaking. Is this not true of all panels?
I doubt they'll throw rarer-than-gold tellurium away. (And I sure hope they don't turn the cadmium into a pollutant!) As for the silicon, grind it to fine powder and let the Silicon Slopes people ski on it. (Or use it to fill dirigibles. Sorry, wrong century!)
Actually Trudeau keeps talking about planting trees, but never seems to do much about it and somehow the dollars keep getting spent?!
Speaking of burning:
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-hidden-profits-of-climate-change
Exactly
Plant more trees!
Very surprising that Kennedy seems to conflate the unproven hypothesis of man-made climate change with environmental issues, such as water and air pollution, deforestation, and so on, problems that any rational person would want to address and eliminate. These are two completely different things. The supposed cause of runaway man-made climate change, CO2, i.e. carbon dioxide, is not a pollutant: it’s an odourless, invisible gas, essential to life on earth. And scientific evidence shows that a rise in CO2 FOLLOWS warming, rather than causes it.
Exactly, it has to do with Henry’s law of the equilibrium between CO2 dissolved in the oceans and the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. After the Younger Dryas, some 12,000 years ago, the Earth finally came out of glaciation, the oceans started to warm up 800 years _after_ the atmosphere warmed up, starting to release the dissolved CO2.
I'm not worried about CO2 unless it exceed low single digit percentage concentration.
In the dark ages when I was raised...carbon was taught to be part of all living things. Animals(even humans) need oxygen to breathe. We exhale CO2 which plants "inhale" and produced oxygen. The eugenicists(Rockefeller) who created phama want to break God's laws.
I remember those dark ages too.
This is from MSN a month ago:
Kennedy subsequently addressed the comments in a 2014 post on the site EcoWatch, asserting that he “support[ed] the First Amendment.” He also said that “corporations which deliberately, purposefully, maliciously and systematically sponsor climate lies should be given the death penalty” and have their charters revoked.
Kennedy’s campaign did not respond to the Daily Caller’s request for comment on whether he still maintains those positions. In a June interview with ReasonTV, Kennedy said that he was referring to a case where Koch Carbon had been dumping petroleum coke in piles along the Detroit River. He added that he does not currently believe that any organization that takes money from climate skeptics should receive the “corporate death penalty” and that he would not have made those statements in light of the censorship around the recent COVID-19 crisis.
My take: RFK Jr. has aspirations NOW and he sees that his extreme stances are a huge red flag, so he back pedals. What’s new? Who’s to say he won’t change his mind again, if he has really changed it now? Climate change lockdowns will be far more devastating than plandemic lockdowns and will do what covid couldn’t achieve. You might be able to fool some of the people some of the time...I can’t wait to see the “safe vaccines” he’ll support. Don’t even get me started on the hypocrisy of climate change extremists!
I always supported general mitigation of risk - I felt guilty using a lot of fuel, supported tree plantings, and accepted the redirection of public funds for green purposes.
However, in 2006 I got the vibe that Big Corporates had found a way to profit from "Climate", with Climate suddenly becoming real in all the major media outlets, rather than an academic idea that some people were concerned about.
Some people would say I had changed. I still support continued human learning of climate related issues (I think the system is far greater than can be modelled with basic atmospheric science) but I am very sceptical of all the climate propaganda. So people's public statements can take different slants.
Understand Kennedy's supporting demographic - he's been anti-chemical pollution for years so that brings in a lot of people with green concerns, which include the climate.
All that is necessary for mass deaths of humans to occur is for sustained heatwaves in which there is a slight increase in the wet bulb temperature of recent heatwaves. It's prudent to mitigate risk.
I'm not sure atm that the important part of 'mitigating risk' is about reducing carbon output, nor am I sure that we are able to do anything about the temperatures we may see (hot or cold). I've become quite interested in the observations of The Ethical Skeptic https://theethicalskeptic.com/
Humans are very intelligent and adaptive... it was suggested in one of these courageous discourse blogs that a few doctors could've solved most of the problem with the pandemic with a couple of basic drugs/vitamins to mitigate the worst damage. I think people could do exactly the same with various climate outcomes. But 'the powers' sought profit from the pandemic and didn't like any cheap solutions undermining it - the same now applies to climate. I think the 'risk' we need to mitigate is corporate, wealth and political. Without them, the regular people will typically look after each other, and come up with solutions.
As is typical of the recommendations of bureaucrats, "reducing carbon output" may not "mitigate risk." On the contrary, if it's reduced quickly and dramatically, it could, within a time frame of a few weeks, not months or years, trigger an unsurvivable and irreversible temperature change, one that it is biologically impossible for us to adapt to. Our high level of carbon emissions may be a necessary condition for our species remaining alive, albeit for only slightly longer than would otherwise be the case. Sadly, although Stephen Hawking might have been correct that we as a species are, right now, on the very edge of extinction, his estimate that we have 100 years left, unless we get the hell off this planet in that time, may be wildly optimistic. Mitigating risk may be simply a matter of buying time, by maintaining or increasing carbon output. The time when reducing carbon output would have been helpful likely passed decades ago, with a crucial tipping point having already been reached. The trajectory now is likely irreversible, with the release of arctic methane now already well under way. We may have less than 10 years, in the best case scenario.
"The aerosol masking effect, or global dimming, is a well-documented instance of our ongoing climate predicament: Efforts to mitigate greenhouse gas production by curbing industrial activity or transitioning to clean sources such as solar or nuclear inevitably and inadvertently accelerate planetary warming. This undesired outcome results from aerosols that result from industrial activity. This article describes some climate mitigation strategies destined to fail because they do not account for the aerosol masking effect."
The largest elephant in the room: aerosol masking
https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.16115
PS: I don't think slow changes in temperature are going to bother humans too much. Through our own ingenuity the people on the planet live in such different climates, and grow different foods at different times of the year. If some areas become dryer, others will become warmer. I'm not phased by this. I think we're up for it. If the oceans are so much warmer there's going to be more rain, more growth. I think the earth is helping us grow. I think there's a bit more magic going on that the linear thinkers can't conceptualise.
Slow changes and carbon increases are no problem. The problem is abrupt changes and arctic methane from below the surface triggering 35C or 95F wet bulb temperatures, which have already begun to appear, for longer than six hours. If there's any guarantee that these can't become more frequent, more prolonged and affect a larger number of populated regions, that's great.
Scientists expected thawing wetlands in Siberia’s permafrost. What they found is ‘much more dangerous.’
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/scientists-expected-thawing-wetlands-in-siberias-permafrost-what-they-found-is-much-more-dangerous/
Methane release from carbonate rock formations in the Siberian permafrost area during and after the 2020 heat wave
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341110/
First recorded unsurvivable heat and humidity episodes
https://www.yourweather.co.uk/news/science/first-recorded-unsurvivable-heat-and-humidity-episodes.html
Or, via The Ethical Skeptic... Atmospheric carbon is increasing primarily because the oceans are warming from below, as is the land below the glaciers and permafrost. The oceans are warming, not from the weak interaction with the marginally warmer atmosphere at the surface but because the core below threw off a bit of hot iron (initially contributing towards the slowing of the earth's rotation (conservation of angular momentum)) with the eventual transferral of heat the mantle.
With heat energy now transferred, there is a consequent contraction, which is (very suddenly) leading to the earth actually increasing its rotational speed for the first time in a long time. Rather than adding a leap second every few years we may now be removing them.
The Ethical Skeptic refers to the Extraordinary (reported) increase in ocean temperature over the last year that could not have come from atmospheric transfer - either from a bias in surface level reporting stations with the arrival of El Nino, and/or from a superheated El Nino current coming up from geothermal activity around the south pole.
Personally, I think heating the oceans from below is far more plausible than from above.
Re the aerosols... The (sizeable) shut downs of industry and the stopping of planes and private vehicles through the pandemic in the countries with the greatest usual output (China and west) made no alteration to the trajectory of atmospheric CO2, in data presented by TES. (He presented data that CO2 follows the temperature - it has not produced it.) I think the aerosol idea would argue that as a consequence of industry shutdown there were fewer aerosols, which may have contributed to warming, that would led to more temperature derived CO2, off-setting reductions in CO2 output. Yet I think TES would argue that CO2 increase is largely independent of surface level interactions, and I suspect he would point to other unexpected observances on variables that I didn't take note of closely, but include albedo.
https://www.corbettreport.com/the-real-anthony-fauci-with-robert-f-kennedy-jr-video/
You might also want to check out this information:
https://worthly.com/richest/politicians/robert-f-kennedy-jrs-net-worth-2023/
If you want to know which direction he could take a captive American populace, just look to see where he can make the most money from his influence. We see it happen, over and over again, conflict of interests abound. But he is so nice, intelligent and empathetic. Yeah, that’s what the jabbed said and look what trouble has come upon them because they listened to the gleaming, talking heads, instead of doing their due diligence with critical thinking. It takes courage to stand against a mob, whether it be climate change extremists or pharmaceutical whores preying on the weak and vulnerable, which the whole complex of American life has created.
I recommend reading a book called The Real Anthony Fauci
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The climate Chance caused by humans is a fraud. All you need to do is looking at climate change for the last 20 000 years. Geoengineering or weather warfare is a concern as is pollution and destruction of nature by big corporations and the military
I've been wary of the carbon credit scheme for years, wanted to do my thesis on it. Carbon credit anyone? Just another way to make the poor pay for mistakes made by the rich and powerful.
I fully agree with RFK Jr's statement.
I believe we have Climate Destruction with much of it caused by the Intensely Hotter Sun, Inner Earth and Ocean Heating caused by Inner Earth Changes and the Military-Industrial Complex's Weather Wars which they admittingly have the technology for.
But they want to Blame, Charge and Control humans like we are the cause. A $$$ and Control Grab by the UN2030 Plan and the WEF. Utter BS!!!
If he's referring to the chemicals they're depositing in the soil and air, together the environmental destruction of the 'renewables' scam then he's right. Those claiming to care are the ones doing the damage
1. He's a Democrat 2. He's a Kennedy. = NO THANKS
That’s right. It’s not a matter of carbon, or even if the climate changes, but whether or not we are allowed to protect our “life support systems” on earth: Trees, Forests, Grasslands and natural life. And it’s not just outing the “carbon emissions” fraudsters killing cattle, but also ending the nonsense of cutting down trees (like in Scotland) to install windmills for money-junkies trying to sell people free electricity, and the bloody ChemTrail pilots dumping shit into our atmosphere who are pretending it’s to do what Mother Nature is being suppressed from doing for us naturally; sustain normal climate swings.
Methane protects the ozone layer.
Right now, as in every subject matter, we have two binary camps.
When it comes to “climate change”, one fully believes that this is the responsibility of Man and you can amend it. The other, doesn’t even want to entertain the idea that the climate is going berserk, mainly as a backlash response to those who espouse the former.
In so doing, both equally miss the boat. Holding to any one of these set beliefs is what makes things worse since the truth is somewhere in the middle.
The reality is that we are going to experience the climate like we have never experienced before. We are going to experience natural disasters of the magnitude we have read in biblical stories and seen in Hollywood movies. They are going to challenge all our conventions about the laws of nature and how things are supposed to be: Precipitation in an hour will be equivalent to that of an entire year, huge sinkholes that swallow entire cities, extreme transitions between cold and heat, droughts, fires & deluge, you name it, are but a few examples.
The reality is that we are in the midst of a huge evolutionary change. Everything is moving towards a very different consciousness. The rules are changing, and they’re changing dramatically. They change within us, as the rules of our 'internal biology' and everything that stems from it: our psychology, our behavior, our relationships, our morals, our values, our culture and our fertility, and they change in the 'external biology' - the whole process of life on Earth.
But interestingly enough, also in everything outside of it. Our solar system, the Earth's magnetic poles, the moon's orbit, - all of them change. Even the sun has been observed to undergo extreme solar storms and coronal mass ejections.
All this to show that none of the parts that make up the whole are isolated. Everything goes through a process of change towards an ending. Not an end as an absolute end, but an end for a new beginning. In between the two there’s a transition phase, and ‘transition’ is just another word for 'death'. Boy, how afraid are we of death, no wonder we mess up the living.
But without death, there’s no birth.
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Ending of Civilizations
There are periods in the life of mankind which usually coincide with the beginning of the fall of societies and cultures, when the masses irreversibly lose their minds and begin to destroy everything that has been created by hundreds and thousands of years of civilization.
Such periods of mass madness coincide with geological disasters, extreme changes in the weather and similar phenomena of a planetary nature and the massive release of a very large amount of knowledge and information.
The Neolithic population collapse about 5500 years ago, which occurred over approximately 500 years in the mid-Holocene (~7000 to 5000 years ago), was temporally coupled to the last diminishment in geomagnetic field intensity. Perturbations in the geomagnetic field are coupled to mantle dynamics, which modulates changes in the solid outer layer of the earth’s mantle rock-water interactions and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels.
The geologic and geophysical conditions of the mid-Holocene are similar to the current conditions of the Holocene (the current geological epoch), namely, increased atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, polar ice melt-induced increased sea levels and terrestrial water storage.
Furthermore, what’s happening right now in every society anywhere in the world? Confusion, loss of common sense and mass formation. And where are we now on the line of development?! We are at the apex of the Information Age. But I want to point out that the apex of the Information Age, as an explosion of knowledge and information, is a sign to an end, not a beginning.
Right now the world believes that we are going to advance more and more in technology and A.I. but that’s only a mirage. The explosion in information and the development of technology is a sign for an end. At some point the rug is going to be pulled under our feet. At some point we are going to move from the 21st century to the 11th century in a blink of an eye.
The end is "programmed" by nature. All of this is perpetuated by resonance: the seeding of information within us, which in turn affects everything else down the line. The mass madness and loss of common sense are just effects of that.
Nature, and I anthropomorphize, "wants" us to be confused. It "wants" us not to understand each other, and it "wants" us to annihilate each other. This is how it brings things to an end.
The problem is always lack of awareness, coupled with human vanity that believes it is in charge. A culture that believes it can control nature to suit its mental measurements. The control of society is a response to the fear and the disorder by the ending that’s felt within. Rather than learn to accept and surrender to one’s flow, there’s a rigidity and denial which then lead to the attempt to control everything.
This makes us absolutely dangerous because the decision making that stems from these changes within us, without the awareness to notice them as innate, is what ultimately exacerbates the chaos and dehumanization that’s coming.
In this way, we are marching towards a bizarre reality in which, places that will still have an abundance of resources all around, no one will get to share their light due to the decision making based on the mass formation of "climate reversal".
I do hope people recognize how easy it is to destroy hundreds of years of civilization. It has happened many times around the globe in history. I also believe humans are no where near as powerful as the forces of Nature. Behind the urgency called for in dealing with "climate change," I cannot but help sense a mistaken hubris that we are above Nature. Do we not tend to meddle excessively, only to endanger our own selves. . .
Wow, incredible explanation, thank you.
Candidate RFK Jr is simply pandering to the Dem base Climate Change cult and CO2 haters...
...just as he threw a bone to the Dem blacks, LGBTQs, and teacher unions by failing to attend the Moms for Liberty convention in July after he had *personally* accepted.
RFK Jr is a good man. But he’s running to represent an emotion-driven lockdown/vaccine crazy party (cult) who want the government to control their lives - including the Sun (see links below).
RFK Jr’s gambit is that he can make Dem voters sane in the next 15 months, while Obama, Hillary, Intel agencies, Big Pharma and Wall Street billionaires try to kill his candidacy (or worse). Note that he has been refused SS protection.
See some actual science denied by Dems here:
https://x.com/miltonwolfmd/status/1692491187867849033?s=46&t=AuwkS69LUgCQwbNTQq8gww
https://x.com/drelidavid/status/1695013877216428419?s=46&t=AuwkS69LUgCQwbNTQq8gww
True. I actually think the party is well beyond his ideas, just as it was well beyond Bernie Sanders.
Strip mining to extract rare earth metals to make electric car batteries and then disposing the old ones?
WE ARE AMERICANS NOT DERANGED PSYCHOPATHETIC DEMONICRAT CONMMUNISTS