Same thing happened in New Orleans. A turf war between FEMA and other agencies over who was boss. People suffered while FEMA argued that they should be boss.
Herman Andaya arrested by US Marines: Real Raw News
"United States Marines under Gen. Smith’s command arrested Andaya Tuesday on treason charges, days after he resigned amid public criticism for not sounding the alarm. Andaya defended his decision by saying he feared the public would mistake the siren for a tsunami warning.
"Andaya was apprehended at Dillinger Airfield on the northwest tip of Oahu while awaiting the arrival of a Cessna 310 to ferry him to Kaui for unknown reasons. He reportedly tried to abscond on foot but was quickly subdued and arrested."
"According to our source, White Hats have videos showing Andya and Lecky meeting in Lahaina on August 6, two days before the blaze. Real Raw News reported previously that hundreds of FEMA personnel began arriving in Honolulu on that date, suggesting the diabolical agency knew that parts of Maui would soon be set ablaze." https://realrawnews.com/2023/08/marines-arrest-67-maui-perpetrators/
I agree 100%! Hung for high treason and cowardliness. We know TPTB threaten and intimidate everyone...I would never have allowed such an evil act to happen...these demons have methods they've perfected. Makes me sick...
The locals rallied and got around this with jet skies & personal boats filled with water & supplies. Our citizens had to do SO much after experiencing this tragedy. One veteran made a video asking where all the military & helicopters were. He had been in combat & received more supplies than on Maui. That’s messed up! One of the wealthiest countries in the world & we can’t coordinate relief to our people? That’s shameful!
I'm thinking there's a likelihood some kind of rule was enacted that makes FEMA the only party authorized to deliver goods after this kind of disaster. As with all such rules, there's do-goodery behind it- to prevent spoiled goods from being delivered, or to prevent profiteering.
Ridiculous…..we should be allowed to help one another and not rely on the government in anyway whatsoever…..the government is a necessary evil as our founders said and must have limitations…….FEMA would poison before a neighbor …
If you read the comments this story is outed immediately by readers as a scam for $$$ to get "donations". You really should delete this link here Diana. . .
At a certain point, doesn't incompetence transform to malevolence? And what came first, incompetence or malevolence? How is point #1 anything BUT malevolence? And what about the water supply issues? And how in the world can anyone with half a brain (or heart) refuse assistance for those suffering? Laser beams from space notwithstanding (LOL), there's so much to this that stinks to high heaven, and by now we ALL know what bullshit smells like.
The biggest travesty of our time is outright corruption covering for blatant incompetence. It’s at every level of society and Lahaina is no different. Totally incompetent people in all leadership rolls throughout society do what they do best; bungle things so badly that people die and lives get ruined. Then they band together to malevolently cover each others tracks and paint themselves as victims and hero’s. Incompetence and corruption so pervasive it endangers civilization itself.
That's for sure. I can't believe that we would have made the progress that we did make for the past hundred + years if the people in charge had been this hapless and immune to any consequences.
Hi…..we have not made progress at all ….. we have been used and abused and that is how we got to this point…..we are fed all information for thousands of years and we believed ….another way we got to this place with vaccines and lockdowns and phony mask coverings…..we don’t get to this point overnight……we have not progressed at all….i though when i was a teenager that we would be a loving society by now (I am 73) but we abuse everyone especially kids…..no progress at all…..maybe devolution….
Up here in B.C.( Canada ) the property owners are actively being prevented from saving their homes or livestock etc by the military, RCMP and check points which are manned by unusual choices for such a job. All efforts for boats to cross the lake with supplies for those trapped are being blocked by the "authorities. Citizens here are upset that " bureaucracy is hampering efforts and making things worse as time is of essence. All roads are blocked intentionally and so people are literally building their own roads in the backwoods to put out fires in their properties. Lots of unanswered questions.
Wow! The globalist are busy everywhere. I’m so sorry for everyone in areas affected in Canada. It’s plain to see what’s going on. It’s disgusting and pure evil. We in the US are afraid everyday that our areas will be hit. It’s happening in CA and Oregon and some other states but not to the extent of Canada. Holding our breath...😳
When I moved to the hills 15 years ago, many people told me "the government doesn't want us here". I thought that was crazy talk, but appears they were just ahead of the curve. Anyone trying to evacuate me is going to have a fight on their hands. Last time they tried I just hid from them.
With infrared drones and satellites and radio towers there is almost no place to hide on the planet besides deep underground or underwater. Not feasible for normal people.
Since when, John, do brush fires melt car tire rims, windows on cars and homes, vaporize ceramic toilets and melt all things metal in the homes that were burned in this fire? You went to Maui and still spout this nonsense? Please do a little research on temperatures needed to melt glass, rims, doorknobs and vaporize ceramic toilets. This is below your level of reporting, and if I were you I'd be ashamed of what I posted in this apology to incompetence. For someone as "switched on" and on target with all of your previous posts I fail to see how you could miss the obvious and take the "safe" mainstream approach to this crime against humanity.
Dear Lawrence Beck, please refer to literature on "Bellows" and "Blast Furnace." An 80 mph wind will drastically increase the rate of combustion, thereby increasing fire temperatures to levels sufficient to melt steel. Indeed, this is how steel is made. Please also consider that I am speaking with eyewitnesses. Regards, John Leake
Some interesting points from that interview with time code references:
1. Min 6:50 "We had issues around mosquito releases: 40 billion lab infected mosquitoes were being released in Maui County, per year. Protests were being organized when the fire hit."
2. Min 8:14 All possibilities as to what might have transpired.
3. 9:00 Fireball in Lahaina started at sunset when Dora was 500 miles south. Hurricane winds generally impact areas within 50 miles.
4. Min 17:50 “It just doesn’t hold water based on the actual evidence you’re sharing” Rob’t Malone’s comment that mainstream media’s assertion that Hurricane Dora was the driver of high winds, when it was 500 miles south of Maui during the fire."
5. Min 23:00 Malone questions accelerants… fires running down the beach.
6. Min 25:20. White ash left everywhere… which is not normal. 86% of losses were local homes.
7. Min 26:40 2200˚f for melting steel and 2,600˚f for melting glass. House across street from melted car was intact. Plastic was still intact (flower pots, piggy banks) this leaves a characteristic of the fire that needs investigation. Houses burned to a crisp and trees still standing.
8. Min 28:40 Back of car burned but front intact when all else around it is ash. As if a microwave beam grazed the back of the car.
9. Min 29:30 Some homes spared when everything around them was fried.
10. Boats burned offshore… from blowing sparks?
11. Min 30:30 Trees burned inside but outside of tree is intact. This happened in Paradise, CA as well. Very uncharacteristic of fires.
12. Min 32:15 Proposed Causes of the Lahaina Fire only Accounts for 2 of the 7 Fire Characteristics
13. Min 34:30 Exits blocked by police so residents couldn’t leave. Hawaii Electric is owned by a Florida conglomerate.
14. Min 36:15 “If you look at the characteristics of the fire… but when you start looking at trees burning from the inside, plastic still remaining… it has the characteristics of metal burning… it has the characteristics of a microwave.” “It takes the moisture from inside plants and burns it from the inside…” like a microwave.
15. Min 37:45 “As soon as you mention Directed Energy Weapons, right away you’re seen as a conspiracy theorist, a whacko, a nut… we need this in the investigation.”
The big 1978 fire in Malibu, CA, left behind some spectacular "modern art" pieces of melted car parts like aluminum transmission cases! They flowed along the ground and looked pretty fascinating! So wherever you got that idea that metal can't melt in a large wildfire is completely wrong!
Dear Dr. M……i love you but this Maui thing…..the DEW used was by China…..this is the beginning of the real WEF and CCP take over……there are hundreds if not thousands of Chinese troops here that have crossed our borders and tons of ammunition ….the governors of CA, OR, AZ, TX are globalists and are partners in this……we knew our safety is being compromised and now we see it……you must listen to military information….this was an attack on our military in Hawaii…..just like FDR allowed it….this is way serious….and people don’t even know that.
Steel melts at the same general heat as iron, about 2,600 to 2,700°F. with the range for different alloys from 2,500 to 2,800. I have an extensive background in high fire ceramics (among other things) and I can tell you that you will NEVER find anything made of iron OR steel in any high-fire ("cone" 10+) ceramic/porcelain gas-fired kiln! NEVER! Anything metal has to be nichrome to take the heat.
And there are plenty of wood-fired ceramic kilns in the world that get up to porcelain-firing temperatures— and they don't even require anything mechanical like blowers. Just the convection of the burning wood itself! That is steel melting temp.
Even a small charcoal forge will get steel white hot and maleable.
These questions are always raised by people with zero wildfire experience.
The houses are mostly made of wood. The cars are filled with combustibles as likely every garage is. You have propane tanks. I recall in 2020 when the lightening fires came to me, I could hear propane tanks blowing up in the community getting torched on the otherside of the mountain.
Wind is a force multiplier, and so are multiple fires converging into one. This is all outlined in the 1970 DoD manual, Forest Fires As A Weapon. What you need is dessication, high winds and multiple ignition sites. That will absolutely create the conditions to melt steel and cars.
Oh, but the trees! They have leaves! Trees are filled with water, not gasoline, and those leaves will show the heat the endured in time.
These are interesting questions but the characteristics and behavior of fire are complex. Given enough fuel plus the oxygen supplied by the bellows-level winds (think of melting and forging iron or glass), it seems plausible that certain areas were annihilated. I'm thinking of photos I've seen from the Paradise California fire where other than the foundation, all that remained of many houses was a thick layer of ash and the occasional very warped metal structure.
I'm not saying I know for certain---just saying that there's room for further inquiry and not enough info to make firm conclusions.
If you really think just fire alone caused this catastrophe, please explain why the videos (many on Twitter / X) show wooden picnic tables, wooden pergolas, wood fences, and many tress that did not burn within 30 yards for cars that were completely incinerated. Then explain the all the cars with glass missing (in their entirety). Not sure if it crumbled / shattered or melted, but if someone can investigate the cars to see if it melted, this means it had to be 2,700 F. No fire burns that hot.
Then also look at the amount fuel. Tress nearby are minimal and houses / businesses with combustible material were 40 yards away from these cars. Aluminum engine blocks melted and ran down the street. There was not enough fuel to sustain temperatures of 1,300F to melt aluminum.
They certainly do, especially when intermixed with combustibles. And at these wind speeds. Have you had any experience in these matters? You do not need a DEW to do this. You need a dessicated landscape, whether natural or induced, high winds, and several ignition sites. DEWs are distractions.
Edit: then you get that roaring towards an area filled with combustibles
Why was the water shut off, why was the road blocked, why did the govmt block supplies for the people of Lahaina. Everyone deserves answers but more importantly, how can we help Lahaina now. Send the USNS Comfort hospital ship and let it dock in Lahaina for 6 months. Let the survivors live on the ship while they try to rebuild their lives and homes. We need to do better, we are all Americans.
What a great idea! Meanwhile FEMA employees are staying in 5 star resorts while most are homeless and have nowhere to stay. I think journalists should grill the inept WH press secretary on why nothing is being done and ask why the ship can’t be used as you suggested. She’ll just get agitated and say “no comment” I’m sure...🤨
Seems like the government is only good at going to war, when it comes to helping people, all thumbs at best, purposefully failing at worst, which is where I lay my bet.
Evil behavior cost many lives. Also, that doddering idiot is NOT the president. People should stop calling him that. Basement Joe was not elected by the people; he was installed by the globalist, Satanic deep state and its Swamp toadies. He is a fake.
When Obama bought a house in DC as his primary, post-office residence, I felt a little sick. I'd hoped that he would live in Hawaii and travel the world as the rock star he will be treated as for the rest of his life. Moving down the street from the White House makes me believe that he has never relinquished his power over the government.
I am with you on the DEWs, been banging this drum for years, not that they don't exist, they do, and even a primary place they exist is on Maui. But, with these conditions, not at all necessary.
However, I am still entertaining the geoengineering angle on this. Again, like DEWs, the tech is there, but in this case, would be much more necessary than a DEW.
If you are stating these types of winds are normal this time of year, that takes some pressure off the geoengineering angle.
Either way, the government response is horrendous and we need to have a serious discussion in this country about how are tax money and debt is spent, because this shouldn't have happened and the post response should not look like this.
I'm out here in the hills of NorCal. Can't help but to feel next. Further north some fires are ripping. Lightening in August is not normal. Theres just too much of this going on for to believe its all happenstance or climate change.
It feels orchestrated.
Thank you for your reporting. I hope the truth comes out.
I’m right there with you. We live at the top of a canyon over looking the Bay in northern CA. Weirdly just received a fire danger flyer from our installed representative and the Board of Supervisors is trying to force a bunch of new low income housing exactly below us.
I'm up here in Sonoma County and the development is off the hook. I hope they are doing it right but BoS are usually, ahem, um, let's just say I don't trust them.
Yes...I lost everything in storage in the Valley Fire in Lake County. At one point there was a Pacific Power and Electric whistle blower who fingered PPE as having had a hand, intentionally, in the fires in No. Ca. Was rather diabolical. These criminals are smart and systematic.
Sorry that you lost everything. That must be gut wrenching. Too close for comfort.
It’s too much of a coincidence that all these fires are a result of PG&E or arson from climate activists. All seems to perfectly coincide with the 2030 agenda.
Consider their influence -others will naturally enough opt for pre-Electric Dylan -but the House Band of the CIA lingers to this hour in the hearts and minds of millions. Post Modernity has it's generational view after all so the famous lines "Sing, O muse, of the rage of Achilles, son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans.” becomes "Dire Wolf."
That said, I entertain geoengineering driving that system. I also entertain the idea they wanted Lahaina to burn. I also entertain dessicants being spread throughout the land to make it burn harder and faster.
But a converging firestorm on a town made of wood and loaded with combustibles in these winds will absolutely create the conditions. DEWs are a distraction. I have had this debate since the Paradise fire. They are not needed. Blow a couple powerlines and transitors in these dessicated winds and you will absolutely get the energy to create this destruction.
There were reports that the power was shut off and then turned back on. I've seen wildfire destruction here in Australia and this fire raises many questions.
I am only here to debase the DEW theory because it is silly. There are weird overlaps, like there being DEW tech on the island, but what I know is that is not necessary to create these types of fires and I find it to be a giant distraction from the real causes.
I agree with just about all of what you posted. But it doesn't prove DEW to me.
Yup. I live in north Idaho. With the right wind, the fire can go extremely hot very quickly. Anyone that’s ever used a bellows on a wood fire can attest to that. Not to dismiss the nefarious possibilities but they aren’t necessary to plausibly explain this as far as I’ve seen and heard.
The weirdest thing I have seen with this one is that ring of fire, that was new to me. I don't know how to explain that, unless that was altered photo.
In my opinion the resemblance of the motor vehicles resemble the cars from 9/11.
And from other curious fires.
In any case, one single cause can be found in human evil. Operation Torch Maui went forward as an integral accident. Nuclear war too will be seen by propaganda as an integral accident. Virilio believed that technology cannot exist without the potential for accidents. For example, Virilio argued that the invention of the locomotive also contained the invention of derailment. He saw the Accident as a rather negative growth of social positivism and scientific progress. However neither Paradise, California or Maui today is an integral accident. Policy decisions are interpretations of approved compartmentalized action plans moving in "Lock Step."
having lived on Maui and still being in touch with Hawaiian natives who have lived for generations in Lahaina that's what my friends tell me. They suspect the use of DEW's which are produced on Maui to ignite the fires which the wind spread to highly combustable grasses, no sirens, no water, the fact that the storm was ca 500 miles away and therefor could NOT have been the cause of the enormous winds, the police barricading the exit sending the people back into the flames, government officials being away on Oahu when the firestorm hit, tourists having been evacuated 24 hours earlier, the governor presenting his 15 min smart, green Maui plans at the UN recently, Hawaiian natives living in Lahaina having refused to sell off their land, just to name a few points. They think this fire or fires were part of a plan to drive Hawaiians off their land and institute WEF directives of 15 min green, smart cities
Thank you for the effort you have made to investigate events at Lahaina. As someone who has worked with securities fraud, as well as the nature and sufficiency of legal evidence in highly counter-intuitive situations, I hope you will consider some additional thoughts.
First, fraud, or any type of deliberate malfeasance, is always made to look like an accident, like something that can be attributed to mistakes, to unnatural coincidence - anything other than deliberation. The more sophisticated the perpetrator, the more difficult it will be to find evidence of what has really happened. Sometimes, it can be impossible.
I will argue that we are NOT bound to assume the innocence of actors who control global events. We are justified in taking what we have learned from recent events, and using that knowledge to create presumptions about what has taken place here, even when it is way too early for critical evidence to prove that we are right. I say this because, in a court of law, people are presumed innocent until proven guilty for a reason that serves THAT system - we are dealing with incarceration and criminal punishment. By comparison, we, as individuals assessing events on substack, are not ethically or morally bound by that same presumption because we are not sending people to prison. To the contrary, we are pursuing truth for its own sake, and should be free from the intellectual restraints that are imposed by an entirely different system, with an entirely different purpose.
In this vein, in view of events that have taken place over the past 3-1/2 years, I would argue that we are justified in presuming the worst and letting facts prove otherwise, rather than the other way around. It is not difficult to see the many problems with presuming that what took place was the result of natural events. It is, first, a problem of oversimplification. We should not be asking what we see, we should be asking - who benefits? The evidence on that is already abundant, and we should establish our presumptions from there. Second, it is important to recognize that presuming that what has taken place is the result of natural events is not a neutral starting position. It is actually the narrative that will always be prepared for us by perpetrators, when there are perpetrators. Nothing to see here, folks. Just some bad actors after the fact.
In cases of deliberate malfeasance, what cannot be made to look like coincidence will be covered up by the perpetrators using the authority they typically have to deny access to information. Does that sound familiar in the case of Lahaina? That is the third reason I would argue that we should not place so much emphasis on saying nothing deliberate has happened until we have proof. In a court of law, discovery is supposed to assure access by all parties to relevant evidence. Here, if there were those who deliberately planned the fire, they have exclusive access to the evidence. If we base our presumptions on the evidence we have available to us, we will be forced to work with a skewed perspective on reality. We do not have a neutral set of limited information. We are fed a skewed set of limited information and need to adjust for that in our approach.
The question is not whether or not directed energy weapons were used. That question cannot possibly be answered definitively at this point. The evidence, if it exists, will not simply appear while we wait. My own approach is to say that, in view of world events over the past several years, the action taken by those in authority after the fact, which was inhumane in the extreme, is sufficient to establish a presumption that the Lahaina fire was planned down to the last detail, that the date was chosen, that mechanisms were put into place to be sure that the destruction took place as scheduled, and that nothing was left to chance with respect to the completeness of the destruction. Does anyone think those in power are unaware of the extensive evidence of convenient "natural cause" excuses that would be available to them?
Were DEWs used? I would not start by looking for evidence, which is probably being destroyed behind chain-link fences as I write. I would ask what known technology or combination of technologies would be capable of ensuring that this fire would produce the desired devastation on this particular day. I would ask if DEWS meet that description, and if they do, I would look for evidence. If a different deep-state technology were used, does it really matter that it was not a DEW? That would be a trivial distinction. What I will say, from my own research, is that few people are aware of how far the technology of the deep state exceeds what we know as standard physics, and few are aware of the extent to which its stealth utilization is already a part of our everyday lives.
References to DEWs are not unreasonable, even if based on nothing more than intuition at this point, because we can look to 9-11 for a parallel analysis. An investigation of 9-11 narratives will reveal three major approaches: First, for the naive - two buildings in NYC were taken down by planes. Second, for the reasonable investigator, it was a controlled demolition and it impacted three buildings, not two. Third, for the serious researcher, we have evidence that directed energy was indeed used. See Judy Wood. Attention should also be given to the earthquake in Turkey, the raging fires in Canada, and a list of other "natural" events that continues to grow.
Why is it important to push these questions to their limits? Why are we justified, as critical investigators, in saying that we will pursue our intuition that some form of advanced weaponry was used? I would argue it is important and we are justified because at a spiritual level this looks very much like an occult sacrifice, by fire, of hundreds of innocent children. And for that, I will put aside my intellectual respectability and stick my own neck out based on my intuition, and my sense that we are fighting a spiritual battle. Then perhaps, by God's grace, we will be led to know the truth so those who suffer loss can take comfort in the fact that, if not in this lifetime, then in eternity, justice will be served. God will not whitewash evil.
Our Lord knows the suffering of the parents who have been left behind:
"A voice was heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children; and she refused to be comforted because they were no more." Matthew 2:18
This is where the Bible begins, and it leads us to find comfort in the Psalms.
But even beyond that, we know the children, who are sorely missed, will be waiting in heaven to be reunited with their parents who put their faith in the Son of God:
"See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their angels in heaven continually see the face of My Father Who is in heaven." Matthew 18:10
I have crossed a line. I will not be a person who waits for proof before I stick my neck out so I can always be right. Rather, I will allow myself to be called a fool in the pursuit of truth. It is only by having done this in the past that I found the determination to keep looking for evidence that nationally recognized experts in their own fields told me did not exist. But I found it because I followed my gut instinct, based on what I could glimpse as a hidden truth. As a result, those who were innocent, who would otherwise have been penalized unjustly, were not.
I fully expect, that if we do not forget about Lahaina and her children, the same thing will happen here, only instead of vindication of the innocent, we will have a fuller grasp of the reality of our world, and of the nature of the battle between good and evil. And when we grasp the nature of this battle, which will test us to the core of our beings, it is my hope that more of us will see that we take our stand with good when we follow the Son of God in obedience and faith.
Absolutely rational points. So much of what’s happened over the last several years does read like a conspiratorial movie script. So I don’t blame people for embracing wild theories. Still, none here are necessary as the truth is stranger than fiction. Silent sirens and fire dept that turned back as things were still smoldering are hard to swallow as simply unfortunate coincidences though.
My point isn’t to discredit all controversial theories. My point is you have to be very careful because being provably wrong just once will, in the minds of many, discredit every other controversial concept ever put forth. It’s a clever psyop to bait people longing to embrace answers then publicly embarrass them by pulling the rug out from under them. Sometimes, as in the case of the aforementioned fires, until irrefutable proof of FBI planes shooting blue lasers turns up, simple, easily seen logic will do the job just fine.
I'm bringing up another issue - the children. Their disappearance needs to be investigated immediately. Did they actually go to their homes from the school? Who can verify seeing a child return home? Were they loaded into buses and driven to airports or put on a ship? In other words, abducted for the purpose of child torture and pedophilia? If this sounds crazy, please view the new documentary, "Out of the Shadows." There must be witnesses who can help identity the true fate of these hundreds of missing children? John, please include this in your investigation and let us know.
Gov officials are scared to release the true death count. Most children were home from school closures due to strong winds and power outages night before and morning of... They likely perished in the inferno.
That is one (primary one) of many consecutive catastrophic failures all across the board.
The failure to maintain/replace/upgrade the existing electrical infrastructure, which is fragile due to the harsh environment and prone to breakage/outage –– ultimately falls on govt. stupidity for mandating 'green & clean' energy implementation over maintenance and upkeep of the grid itself. Everything rusts, corrodes or rots much faster out here in the middle of the largest ocean. It's like this throughout all the islands unfortunately.
I'm still completely on board with the DEW + chem trail accelerants theory. These globalists have demonstrated again and again it is not incompetence, it is *intentional harm.* They lie in the face of clear evidence and think nothing of it, nor of the millions of deaths those lies have caused. This kind of "neglect" in Lahaina is no accident; it serves their purposes. We have to come to terms with THAT and process that and decide whether we deserve to have systems and leadership that do in fact and in action transparently reveal the whole truth and work for the good of the people. In the face of antihuman actions, we should fully consider and process that it's due to their antihuman agenda.
The 15-min cities are NO JOKE. This is what they're going to do if we keep buying into their nonsense. They aim for complete control and manipulation of us all. The globalists have no affiliation to nation or "parties." They are self interested only: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bwcnOTGI4nd7/
And look at the similarity in Maui ... orange "passes" required to go to another place on the island.
You might want to talk to James McCanney about the LEO thermal laser satellites that are used to create and steer hurricanes in the Atlantic, where the one that passed south of Maui reported came from.
"they PROHIBITED supplies from being delivered, claiming that only FEMA was authorized"
These officials need to be tried for treason and murder and then hung publicly.
Same thing happened in New Orleans. A turf war between FEMA and other agencies over who was boss. People suffered while FEMA argued that they should be boss.
Herman Andaya arrested by US Marines: Real Raw News
"United States Marines under Gen. Smith’s command arrested Andaya Tuesday on treason charges, days after he resigned amid public criticism for not sounding the alarm. Andaya defended his decision by saying he feared the public would mistake the siren for a tsunami warning.
"Andaya was apprehended at Dillinger Airfield on the northwest tip of Oahu while awaiting the arrival of a Cessna 310 to ferry him to Kaui for unknown reasons. He reportedly tried to abscond on foot but was quickly subdued and arrested."
https://realrawnews.com/2023/08/marines-arrest-67-maui-perpetrators/
Sorry, but NOT a valid source, and also completely un-corroborated. Do better than post hogwash.
"According to our source, White Hats have videos showing Andya and Lecky meeting in Lahaina on August 6, two days before the blaze. Real Raw News reported previously that hundreds of FEMA personnel began arriving in Honolulu on that date, suggesting the diabolical agency knew that parts of Maui would soon be set ablaze." https://realrawnews.com/2023/08/marines-arrest-67-maui-perpetrators/
Sorry, but NOT a valid source, and also completely un-corroborated. Do better than post hogwash.
Biden first!
I agree 100%! Hung for high treason and cowardliness. We know TPTB threaten and intimidate everyone...I would never have allowed such an evil act to happen...these demons have methods they've perfected. Makes me sick...
The locals rallied and got around this with jet skies & personal boats filled with water & supplies. Our citizens had to do SO much after experiencing this tragedy. One veteran made a video asking where all the military & helicopters were. He had been in combat & received more supplies than on Maui. That’s messed up! One of the wealthiest countries in the world & we can’t coordinate relief to our people? That’s shameful!
I'm thinking there's a likelihood some kind of rule was enacted that makes FEMA the only party authorized to deliver goods after this kind of disaster. As with all such rules, there's do-goodery behind it- to prevent spoiled goods from being delivered, or to prevent profiteering.
That's regulation, comrade.
Ridiculous…..we should be allowed to help one another and not rely on the government in anyway whatsoever…..the government is a necessary evil as our founders said and must have limitations…….FEMA would poison before a neighbor …
I agree.
If any such rule or regulation exists, I was mocking it, not supporting it.
Ah! Thank you. Sorry I didn’t get it.
No worries. I can see in hindsight I didn't craft that thought very well.
Sarcasm doesn't always carry well in print, either, I have found.
No, that's CONTROL, "comrade"! If only you can provide basic necessities, people will generally do whatever you demand, to get them.
https://realrawnews.com/2023/08/marines-arrest-67-maui-perpetrators/
I'd like it to be true, but I'm not buying it.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-fema-convoy-marines-maui-hawaii-987736212197
https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-no-femas-erik-152300882.html
Let's give it a couple of days and see if your story is confirmed.
If you read the comments this story is outed immediately by readers as a scam for $$$ to get "donations". You really should delete this link here Diana. . .
At a certain point, doesn't incompetence transform to malevolence? And what came first, incompetence or malevolence? How is point #1 anything BUT malevolence? And what about the water supply issues? And how in the world can anyone with half a brain (or heart) refuse assistance for those suffering? Laser beams from space notwithstanding (LOL), there's so much to this that stinks to high heaven, and by now we ALL know what bullshit smells like.
The biggest travesty of our time is outright corruption covering for blatant incompetence. It’s at every level of society and Lahaina is no different. Totally incompetent people in all leadership rolls throughout society do what they do best; bungle things so badly that people die and lives get ruined. Then they band together to malevolently cover each others tracks and paint themselves as victims and hero’s. Incompetence and corruption so pervasive it endangers civilization itself.
That's for sure. I can't believe that we would have made the progress that we did make for the past hundred + years if the people in charge had been this hapless and immune to any consequences.
Hi…..we have not made progress at all ….. we have been used and abused and that is how we got to this point…..we are fed all information for thousands of years and we believed ….another way we got to this place with vaccines and lockdowns and phony mask coverings…..we don’t get to this point overnight……we have not progressed at all….i though when i was a teenager that we would be a loving society by now (I am 73) but we abuse everyone especially kids…..no progress at all…..maybe devolution….
People in positions of power based solely on pcwoke and not knowledge, skills, ability, experience, or merit.
Up here in B.C.( Canada ) the property owners are actively being prevented from saving their homes or livestock etc by the military, RCMP and check points which are manned by unusual choices for such a job. All efforts for boats to cross the lake with supplies for those trapped are being blocked by the "authorities. Citizens here are upset that " bureaucracy is hampering efforts and making things worse as time is of essence. All roads are blocked intentionally and so people are literally building their own roads in the backwoods to put out fires in their properties. Lots of unanswered questions.
Wow! The globalist are busy everywhere. I’m so sorry for everyone in areas affected in Canada. It’s plain to see what’s going on. It’s disgusting and pure evil. We in the US are afraid everyday that our areas will be hit. It’s happening in CA and Oregon and some other states but not to the extent of Canada. Holding our breath...😳
When I moved to the hills 15 years ago, many people told me "the government doesn't want us here". I thought that was crazy talk, but appears they were just ahead of the curve. Anyone trying to evacuate me is going to have a fight on their hands. Last time they tried I just hid from them.
With infrared drones and satellites and radio towers there is almost no place to hide on the planet besides deep underground or underwater. Not feasible for normal people.
I guess if they want to try that hard, but last time was just a patrol car with a loudspeaker. There was a helicopter too but he didn't buzz me.
Don't hide....get active politically and prep. Push back.
Since when, John, do brush fires melt car tire rims, windows on cars and homes, vaporize ceramic toilets and melt all things metal in the homes that were burned in this fire? You went to Maui and still spout this nonsense? Please do a little research on temperatures needed to melt glass, rims, doorknobs and vaporize ceramic toilets. This is below your level of reporting, and if I were you I'd be ashamed of what I posted in this apology to incompetence. For someone as "switched on" and on target with all of your previous posts I fail to see how you could miss the obvious and take the "safe" mainstream approach to this crime against humanity.
Dear Lawrence Beck, please refer to literature on "Bellows" and "Blast Furnace." An 80 mph wind will drastically increase the rate of combustion, thereby increasing fire temperatures to levels sufficient to melt steel. Indeed, this is how steel is made. Please also consider that I am speaking with eyewitnesses. Regards, John Leake
John, Are you aware of the interview of Maui residents Bruce Douglas and Paul Deslauriers by Robert Malone? Here's the link to the interview called: "Update From The Frontlines Of The Maui Fires? Rumble video ink here: https://rumble.com/v38yeao-update-from-the-frontlines-of-the-maui-fires-dr.-robert-malone-bruce-dougla.html
Some interesting points from that interview with time code references:
1. Min 6:50 "We had issues around mosquito releases: 40 billion lab infected mosquitoes were being released in Maui County, per year. Protests were being organized when the fire hit."
2. Min 8:14 All possibilities as to what might have transpired.
3. 9:00 Fireball in Lahaina started at sunset when Dora was 500 miles south. Hurricane winds generally impact areas within 50 miles.
4. Min 17:50 “It just doesn’t hold water based on the actual evidence you’re sharing” Rob’t Malone’s comment that mainstream media’s assertion that Hurricane Dora was the driver of high winds, when it was 500 miles south of Maui during the fire."
5. Min 23:00 Malone questions accelerants… fires running down the beach.
6. Min 25:20. White ash left everywhere… which is not normal. 86% of losses were local homes.
7. Min 26:40 2200˚f for melting steel and 2,600˚f for melting glass. House across street from melted car was intact. Plastic was still intact (flower pots, piggy banks) this leaves a characteristic of the fire that needs investigation. Houses burned to a crisp and trees still standing.
8. Min 28:40 Back of car burned but front intact when all else around it is ash. As if a microwave beam grazed the back of the car.
9. Min 29:30 Some homes spared when everything around them was fried.
10. Boats burned offshore… from blowing sparks?
11. Min 30:30 Trees burned inside but outside of tree is intact. This happened in Paradise, CA as well. Very uncharacteristic of fires.
12. Min 32:15 Proposed Causes of the Lahaina Fire only Accounts for 2 of the 7 Fire Characteristics
13. Min 34:30 Exits blocked by police so residents couldn’t leave. Hawaii Electric is owned by a Florida conglomerate.
14. Min 36:15 “If you look at the characteristics of the fire… but when you start looking at trees burning from the inside, plastic still remaining… it has the characteristics of metal burning… it has the characteristics of a microwave.” “It takes the moisture from inside plants and burns it from the inside…” like a microwave.
15. Min 37:45 “As soon as you mention Directed Energy Weapons, right away you’re seen as a conspiracy theorist, a whacko, a nut… we need this in the investigation.”
Very insightful analysis!
The big 1978 fire in Malibu, CA, left behind some spectacular "modern art" pieces of melted car parts like aluminum transmission cases! They flowed along the ground and looked pretty fascinating! So wherever you got that idea that metal can't melt in a large wildfire is completely wrong!
Dear Dr. M……i love you but this Maui thing…..the DEW used was by China…..this is the beginning of the real WEF and CCP take over……there are hundreds if not thousands of Chinese troops here that have crossed our borders and tons of ammunition ….the governors of CA, OR, AZ, TX are globalists and are partners in this……we knew our safety is being compromised and now we see it……you must listen to military information….this was an attack on our military in Hawaii…..just like FDR allowed it….this is way serious….and people don’t even know that.
Steel melts at the same general heat as iron, about 2,600 to 2,700°F. with the range for different alloys from 2,500 to 2,800. I have an extensive background in high fire ceramics (among other things) and I can tell you that you will NEVER find anything made of iron OR steel in any high-fire ("cone" 10+) ceramic/porcelain gas-fired kiln! NEVER! Anything metal has to be nichrome to take the heat.
And there are plenty of wood-fired ceramic kilns in the world that get up to porcelain-firing temperatures— and they don't even require anything mechanical like blowers. Just the convection of the burning wood itself! That is steel melting temp.
Even a small charcoal forge will get steel white hot and maleable.
These questions are always raised by people with zero wildfire experience.
The houses are mostly made of wood. The cars are filled with combustibles as likely every garage is. You have propane tanks. I recall in 2020 when the lightening fires came to me, I could hear propane tanks blowing up in the community getting torched on the otherside of the mountain.
Wind is a force multiplier, and so are multiple fires converging into one. This is all outlined in the 1970 DoD manual, Forest Fires As A Weapon. What you need is dessication, high winds and multiple ignition sites. That will absolutely create the conditions to melt steel and cars.
Oh, but the trees! They have leaves! Trees are filled with water, not gasoline, and those leaves will show the heat the endured in time.
Unless the trees are eucalyptus.
Yeah, they scare the hell out of me. I have dozens.
Electric cars can burn at temps up to 4900 F, steel melts around 2500-2700.
When it hits town it is not just wood based. You are leaving out the enormous amount of petro products EVERYWHERE.
These are interesting questions but the characteristics and behavior of fire are complex. Given enough fuel plus the oxygen supplied by the bellows-level winds (think of melting and forging iron or glass), it seems plausible that certain areas were annihilated. I'm thinking of photos I've seen from the Paradise California fire where other than the foundation, all that remained of many houses was a thick layer of ash and the occasional very warped metal structure.
I'm not saying I know for certain---just saying that there's room for further inquiry and not enough info to make firm conclusions.
Cheryl, Please watch: Update From The Frontlines Of The Maui Fires (Dr. Robert Malone, Bruce Douglas, Paul Deslauriers) https://rumble.com/v38yeao-update-from-the-frontlines-of-the-maui-fires-dr.-robert-malone-bruce-dougla.html There are valid questions raised here and there is too much foul play to ignore. That much is a certainty!
If you really think just fire alone caused this catastrophe, please explain why the videos (many on Twitter / X) show wooden picnic tables, wooden pergolas, wood fences, and many tress that did not burn within 30 yards for cars that were completely incinerated. Then explain the all the cars with glass missing (in their entirety). Not sure if it crumbled / shattered or melted, but if someone can investigate the cars to see if it melted, this means it had to be 2,700 F. No fire burns that hot.
Then also look at the amount fuel. Tress nearby are minimal and houses / businesses with combustible material were 40 yards away from these cars. Aluminum engine blocks melted and ran down the street. There was not enough fuel to sustain temperatures of 1,300F to melt aluminum.
Extremely well stated!
Coincidence that Maui has a USAF Directed Energy Program?
Maui sees first U.S. Space Force officers sworn in https://www.afrl.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2498944/maui-sees-first-us-space-force-officers-sworn-in/
Welcome to the MHPCC DSRC https://www.mhpcc.hpc.mil
What kind of "wildfires" burn in a perfect circle, and JUMP OVER WATER, igniting all the boats?
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/what-kind-of-wildfires-burn-in-a :
Aircraft-borne gyrotron radiation?
https://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/rense/special/rense_082123_hr3.mp3
They certainly do, especially when intermixed with combustibles. And at these wind speeds. Have you had any experience in these matters? You do not need a DEW to do this. You need a dessicated landscape, whether natural or induced, high winds, and several ignition sites. DEWs are distractions.
Edit: then you get that roaring towards an area filled with combustibles
The claim wasn't that fence nails melted; just that the board wood burnt above each nail.
Why was the water shut off, why was the road blocked, why did the govmt block supplies for the people of Lahaina. Everyone deserves answers but more importantly, how can we help Lahaina now. Send the USNS Comfort hospital ship and let it dock in Lahaina for 6 months. Let the survivors live on the ship while they try to rebuild their lives and homes. We need to do better, we are all Americans.
What a great idea! Meanwhile FEMA employees are staying in 5 star resorts while most are homeless and have nowhere to stay. I think journalists should grill the inept WH press secretary on why nothing is being done and ask why the ship can’t be used as you suggested. She’ll just get agitated and say “no comment” I’m sure...🤨
I saw the Jesse watters clip re fema staying at 5 star hotels. Words cannot describe how nauseating that is.
Seems like the government is only good at going to war, when it comes to helping people, all thumbs at best, purposefully failing at worst, which is where I lay my bet.
Evil behavior cost many lives. Also, that doddering idiot is NOT the president. People should stop calling him that. Basement Joe was not elected by the people; he was installed by the globalist, Satanic deep state and its Swamp toadies. He is a fake.
When Obama bought a house in DC as his primary, post-office residence, I felt a little sick. I'd hoped that he would live in Hawaii and travel the world as the rock star he will be treated as for the rest of his life. Moving down the street from the White House makes me believe that he has never relinquished his power over the government.
With Obummer & his flying monkeys pulling the strings behind the curtain
When God wants to judge a nation, He sends them wicked leaders. (John Calvin)
I am with you on the DEWs, been banging this drum for years, not that they don't exist, they do, and even a primary place they exist is on Maui. But, with these conditions, not at all necessary.
However, I am still entertaining the geoengineering angle on this. Again, like DEWs, the tech is there, but in this case, would be much more necessary than a DEW.
If you are stating these types of winds are normal this time of year, that takes some pressure off the geoengineering angle.
Either way, the government response is horrendous and we need to have a serious discussion in this country about how are tax money and debt is spent, because this shouldn't have happened and the post response should not look like this.
I'm out here in the hills of NorCal. Can't help but to feel next. Further north some fires are ripping. Lightening in August is not normal. Theres just too much of this going on for to believe its all happenstance or climate change.
It feels orchestrated.
Thank you for your reporting. I hope the truth comes out.
I’m right there with you. We live at the top of a canyon over looking the Bay in northern CA. Weirdly just received a fire danger flyer from our installed representative and the Board of Supervisors is trying to force a bunch of new low income housing exactly below us.
I'm up here in Sonoma County and the development is off the hook. I hope they are doing it right but BoS are usually, ahem, um, let's just say I don't trust them.
Yes...I lost everything in storage in the Valley Fire in Lake County. At one point there was a Pacific Power and Electric whistle blower who fingered PPE as having had a hand, intentionally, in the fires in No. Ca. Was rather diabolical. These criminals are smart and systematic.
Sorry that you lost everything. That must be gut wrenching. Too close for comfort.
It’s too much of a coincidence that all these fires are a result of PG&E or arson from climate activists. All seems to perfectly coincide with the 2030 agenda.
Wildfires do not behave like the Lahania fire. Two good eyes but you still won't see.
Grateful Dead reference noted...
The Homer of our hour.
The Grateful Dead?
Consider their influence -others will naturally enough opt for pre-Electric Dylan -but the House Band of the CIA lingers to this hour in the hearts and minds of millions. Post Modernity has it's generational view after all so the famous lines "Sing, O muse, of the rage of Achilles, son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans.” becomes "Dire Wolf."
https://youtu.be/eKRUfVlZJok
Steal your face right off your head.
Edit: under any other circumstances that line would sound like a threat.
This would get you convicted retroactively as a J-6 Defendant.
If I had a gun for every ace I have drawn
I could arm a town the size of Abilene
Don't you push me, baby, because I'm moanin' low
And you know I'm only in it for the gold
Actually they do, under these conditions, this is exactly what you can expect.
This is a great breakdown of the wind that drove the fires: https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2023/08/the-real-cause-of-maui-wildfire-disaster.html?m=1&s=09
That said, I entertain geoengineering driving that system. I also entertain the idea they wanted Lahaina to burn. I also entertain dessicants being spread throughout the land to make it burn harder and faster.
But a converging firestorm on a town made of wood and loaded with combustibles in these winds will absolutely create the conditions. DEWs are a distraction. I have had this debate since the Paradise fire. They are not needed. Blow a couple powerlines and transitors in these dessicated winds and you will absolutely get the energy to create this destruction.
There were reports that the power was shut off and then turned back on. I've seen wildfire destruction here in Australia and this fire raises many questions.
No sirens
No attempt at evacuation
Initial fire abandoned
Power on or turned back on
Residents barricaded in fire zone
No water in hydrants
No attempt at fire fighting
Nothing from military or coast guard
Steel melted but plastic untouched
No spotting ahead of the fire front
No scorching on some buildings
Boats ignited but nothing in harbourside mansions
No debris on streets
I am only here to debase the DEW theory because it is silly. There are weird overlaps, like there being DEW tech on the island, but what I know is that is not necessary to create these types of fires and I find it to be a giant distraction from the real causes.
I agree with just about all of what you posted. But it doesn't prove DEW to me.
Yup. I live in north Idaho. With the right wind, the fire can go extremely hot very quickly. Anyone that’s ever used a bellows on a wood fire can attest to that. Not to dismiss the nefarious possibilities but they aren’t necessary to plausibly explain this as far as I’ve seen and heard.
The weirdest thing I have seen with this one is that ring of fire, that was new to me. I don't know how to explain that, unless that was altered photo.
In my opinion the resemblance of the motor vehicles resemble the cars from 9/11.
And from other curious fires.
In any case, one single cause can be found in human evil. Operation Torch Maui went forward as an integral accident. Nuclear war too will be seen by propaganda as an integral accident. Virilio believed that technology cannot exist without the potential for accidents. For example, Virilio argued that the invention of the locomotive also contained the invention of derailment. He saw the Accident as a rather negative growth of social positivism and scientific progress. However neither Paradise, California or Maui today is an integral accident. Policy decisions are interpretations of approved compartmentalized action plans moving in "Lock Step."
It is not just a wildfire when it hits incendiary places filled with petro products, dude, get a grip.
having lived on Maui and still being in touch with Hawaiian natives who have lived for generations in Lahaina that's what my friends tell me. They suspect the use of DEW's which are produced on Maui to ignite the fires which the wind spread to highly combustable grasses, no sirens, no water, the fact that the storm was ca 500 miles away and therefor could NOT have been the cause of the enormous winds, the police barricading the exit sending the people back into the flames, government officials being away on Oahu when the firestorm hit, tourists having been evacuated 24 hours earlier, the governor presenting his 15 min smart, green Maui plans at the UN recently, Hawaiian natives living in Lahaina having refused to sell off their land, just to name a few points. They think this fire or fires were part of a plan to drive Hawaiians off their land and institute WEF directives of 15 min green, smart cities
John,
Thank you for the effort you have made to investigate events at Lahaina. As someone who has worked with securities fraud, as well as the nature and sufficiency of legal evidence in highly counter-intuitive situations, I hope you will consider some additional thoughts.
First, fraud, or any type of deliberate malfeasance, is always made to look like an accident, like something that can be attributed to mistakes, to unnatural coincidence - anything other than deliberation. The more sophisticated the perpetrator, the more difficult it will be to find evidence of what has really happened. Sometimes, it can be impossible.
I will argue that we are NOT bound to assume the innocence of actors who control global events. We are justified in taking what we have learned from recent events, and using that knowledge to create presumptions about what has taken place here, even when it is way too early for critical evidence to prove that we are right. I say this because, in a court of law, people are presumed innocent until proven guilty for a reason that serves THAT system - we are dealing with incarceration and criminal punishment. By comparison, we, as individuals assessing events on substack, are not ethically or morally bound by that same presumption because we are not sending people to prison. To the contrary, we are pursuing truth for its own sake, and should be free from the intellectual restraints that are imposed by an entirely different system, with an entirely different purpose.
In this vein, in view of events that have taken place over the past 3-1/2 years, I would argue that we are justified in presuming the worst and letting facts prove otherwise, rather than the other way around. It is not difficult to see the many problems with presuming that what took place was the result of natural events. It is, first, a problem of oversimplification. We should not be asking what we see, we should be asking - who benefits? The evidence on that is already abundant, and we should establish our presumptions from there. Second, it is important to recognize that presuming that what has taken place is the result of natural events is not a neutral starting position. It is actually the narrative that will always be prepared for us by perpetrators, when there are perpetrators. Nothing to see here, folks. Just some bad actors after the fact.
In cases of deliberate malfeasance, what cannot be made to look like coincidence will be covered up by the perpetrators using the authority they typically have to deny access to information. Does that sound familiar in the case of Lahaina? That is the third reason I would argue that we should not place so much emphasis on saying nothing deliberate has happened until we have proof. In a court of law, discovery is supposed to assure access by all parties to relevant evidence. Here, if there were those who deliberately planned the fire, they have exclusive access to the evidence. If we base our presumptions on the evidence we have available to us, we will be forced to work with a skewed perspective on reality. We do not have a neutral set of limited information. We are fed a skewed set of limited information and need to adjust for that in our approach.
The question is not whether or not directed energy weapons were used. That question cannot possibly be answered definitively at this point. The evidence, if it exists, will not simply appear while we wait. My own approach is to say that, in view of world events over the past several years, the action taken by those in authority after the fact, which was inhumane in the extreme, is sufficient to establish a presumption that the Lahaina fire was planned down to the last detail, that the date was chosen, that mechanisms were put into place to be sure that the destruction took place as scheduled, and that nothing was left to chance with respect to the completeness of the destruction. Does anyone think those in power are unaware of the extensive evidence of convenient "natural cause" excuses that would be available to them?
Were DEWs used? I would not start by looking for evidence, which is probably being destroyed behind chain-link fences as I write. I would ask what known technology or combination of technologies would be capable of ensuring that this fire would produce the desired devastation on this particular day. I would ask if DEWS meet that description, and if they do, I would look for evidence. If a different deep-state technology were used, does it really matter that it was not a DEW? That would be a trivial distinction. What I will say, from my own research, is that few people are aware of how far the technology of the deep state exceeds what we know as standard physics, and few are aware of the extent to which its stealth utilization is already a part of our everyday lives.
References to DEWs are not unreasonable, even if based on nothing more than intuition at this point, because we can look to 9-11 for a parallel analysis. An investigation of 9-11 narratives will reveal three major approaches: First, for the naive - two buildings in NYC were taken down by planes. Second, for the reasonable investigator, it was a controlled demolition and it impacted three buildings, not two. Third, for the serious researcher, we have evidence that directed energy was indeed used. See Judy Wood. Attention should also be given to the earthquake in Turkey, the raging fires in Canada, and a list of other "natural" events that continues to grow.
Why is it important to push these questions to their limits? Why are we justified, as critical investigators, in saying that we will pursue our intuition that some form of advanced weaponry was used? I would argue it is important and we are justified because at a spiritual level this looks very much like an occult sacrifice, by fire, of hundreds of innocent children. And for that, I will put aside my intellectual respectability and stick my own neck out based on my intuition, and my sense that we are fighting a spiritual battle. Then perhaps, by God's grace, we will be led to know the truth so those who suffer loss can take comfort in the fact that, if not in this lifetime, then in eternity, justice will be served. God will not whitewash evil.
Our Lord knows the suffering of the parents who have been left behind:
"A voice was heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children; and she refused to be comforted because they were no more." Matthew 2:18
This is where the Bible begins, and it leads us to find comfort in the Psalms.
But even beyond that, we know the children, who are sorely missed, will be waiting in heaven to be reunited with their parents who put their faith in the Son of God:
"See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their angels in heaven continually see the face of My Father Who is in heaven." Matthew 18:10
I have crossed a line. I will not be a person who waits for proof before I stick my neck out so I can always be right. Rather, I will allow myself to be called a fool in the pursuit of truth. It is only by having done this in the past that I found the determination to keep looking for evidence that nationally recognized experts in their own fields told me did not exist. But I found it because I followed my gut instinct, based on what I could glimpse as a hidden truth. As a result, those who were innocent, who would otherwise have been penalized unjustly, were not.
I fully expect, that if we do not forget about Lahaina and her children, the same thing will happen here, only instead of vindication of the innocent, we will have a fuller grasp of the reality of our world, and of the nature of the battle between good and evil. And when we grasp the nature of this battle, which will test us to the core of our beings, it is my hope that more of us will see that we take our stand with good when we follow the Son of God in obedience and faith.
J.P. Kerber, Esq.
Very intelligently and insightfully stated!
Absolutely rational points. So much of what’s happened over the last several years does read like a conspiratorial movie script. So I don’t blame people for embracing wild theories. Still, none here are necessary as the truth is stranger than fiction. Silent sirens and fire dept that turned back as things were still smoldering are hard to swallow as simply unfortunate coincidences though.
Not wild theories..thise "wild" theories have been proven beyond a doubt. Open your eyes.expand your mind. No such thing as coincidence
My point isn’t to discredit all controversial theories. My point is you have to be very careful because being provably wrong just once will, in the minds of many, discredit every other controversial concept ever put forth. It’s a clever psyop to bait people longing to embrace answers then publicly embarrass them by pulling the rug out from under them. Sometimes, as in the case of the aforementioned fires, until irrefutable proof of FBI planes shooting blue lasers turns up, simple, easily seen logic will do the job just fine.
I'm bringing up another issue - the children. Their disappearance needs to be investigated immediately. Did they actually go to their homes from the school? Who can verify seeing a child return home? Were they loaded into buses and driven to airports or put on a ship? In other words, abducted for the purpose of child torture and pedophilia? If this sounds crazy, please view the new documentary, "Out of the Shadows." There must be witnesses who can help identity the true fate of these hundreds of missing children? John, please include this in your investigation and let us know.
Gov officials are scared to release the true death count. Most children were home from school closures due to strong winds and power outages night before and morning of... They likely perished in the inferno.
One of the big questions is why was the power still on when there were downed power lines and such high winds
That is one (primary one) of many consecutive catastrophic failures all across the board.
The failure to maintain/replace/upgrade the existing electrical infrastructure, which is fragile due to the harsh environment and prone to breakage/outage –– ultimately falls on govt. stupidity for mandating 'green & clean' energy implementation over maintenance and upkeep of the grid itself. Everything rusts, corrodes or rots much faster out here in the middle of the largest ocean. It's like this throughout all the islands unfortunately.
I'm still completely on board with the DEW + chem trail accelerants theory. These globalists have demonstrated again and again it is not incompetence, it is *intentional harm.* They lie in the face of clear evidence and think nothing of it, nor of the millions of deaths those lies have caused. This kind of "neglect" in Lahaina is no accident; it serves their purposes. We have to come to terms with THAT and process that and decide whether we deserve to have systems and leadership that do in fact and in action transparently reveal the whole truth and work for the good of the people. In the face of antihuman actions, we should fully consider and process that it's due to their antihuman agenda.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aluminum-dust-from-geoengineering-fueling-super-wildfires-according-to-author-300707890.html
The 15-min cities are NO JOKE. This is what they're going to do if we keep buying into their nonsense. They aim for complete control and manipulation of us all. The globalists have no affiliation to nation or "parties." They are self interested only: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bwcnOTGI4nd7/
And look at the similarity in Maui ... orange "passes" required to go to another place on the island.
https://www.tiktok.com/@geoffcygnus/video/7267641768768802090
You might want to talk to James McCanney about the LEO thermal laser satellites that are used to create and steer hurricanes in the Atlantic, where the one that passed south of Maui reported came from.
Lasers rarely reach 1% efficiency. Gyrotrons better, though require doped silica target.
Did you ever wonder where those trillions of dollars disappeared to in the Pentagon?
The Pentagon has mysterious "money pots".
They were used to build Reagan's Star Wars dream weapons.