The counter-sniper who ultimately shot Crooks HAD to have seen the shooter when he took aim from the roof's ridge. The kill shot hit Crooks when his head was positioned 3-5 feet downslope of ridge.
Either the Secret Service removes the shooter from the roof or takes him out at 5:52 or NO ONE TAKES THE STAGE…unless they were enabling the whole thing.
And that's if it's real and was an inside set up. There are MANY things wrong with the whole picture. Why such a small crowd when they usually report 1,000's? Why weren't people running to get out.were there any injuries due to people trying to get out. How did they know there weren't additional shooters? The still's have people in them looking down on their phones or talking to the person beside them? One looks like he's watching a 4th down drive on the goal line. Why would any of them had still been in those seats? A former President has just been shot. The very shiney red blood was not on Trump's collar, or hand that was on his ear? The secret service let him stay to retrieve his shoes and hat? Why did they take his shoes off? To look for injuries, maybe? Why stay for the items? He was just shot at right? The secret service appears to be laying over 2 people, protecting them? Why is he pointing. The former president was just shot why isn't his firearm out? Any many more...
Nothing adds up. Gunshots sound different in different videos… different patterns. Have heard two sides about bloody ear and nothing on Trumps hand. Either one might be true. All videos leave something out we can’t see. I didn’t want to believe this could be staged, but I’m thinking more and more we are being lied to from EVERYONE & EVERYWHERE! Maybe here too. Any story could be true or false. ANYONE can be an actor. I’m thinking we are all wasting our time.
Federal Bureau of Instigation CANNOT be trusted to investigate shoplifting fish rots from the head they’ve been done for decades. Authoritarian liars. Oh you mean the people at ruby ridge or waco or ok city or knowing trump dossier was a fake and running with it. Hiding the laptop and scaring the shit out of the computer shop owner white supremacy and deplorable rednecks like myself are the problem those guys?…………..
I cannot get over the timeline of 26 seconds from the shooter pulling the trigger the first time, to being taken out by the counter-sniper team.
Recall the July 2022 Indiana hero, Elisjsha Dicken, who 15 seconds after hearing a gunman open fire in the mall food court, returned fire, and neutralized the threat by hitting him 8 times, the first of which proved fatal.
The timeline is wrong. I went back and watched and listened to the video of the shooting. You can hear the kill shot about 16 seconds after the shooter fired his first round. The kill shot was about 10 seconds after the shooter's 2nd burst. Arn Grimr wrote a great analysis that argues the shooter moved from his first position (that was concealed by a tree from BOTH sniper teams) to try to get a better angle after Trump was down. That would explain the 10 second pause. He was moving, then came into view of the 2nd sniper team and was shot. https://arngrimr.substack.com/p/trump-assassination-attempt-separating (I also wrote several Comments there this morning).
Re: "BOTH sniper teams"--by Director Cheatle's own admission, there was a third team, the one that couldn't risk going on the low-angle roof Crooks was on because it was "too steep" and was told to observe from inside the building. Turns out they were in the only two-story section of the building directly facing both the speaker's podium and the roof Crooks was on. If a sniper shot Crooks, the shot could easily have come from the team behind him. Did at least some of the shots at Trump come from inside the building?
Yes. The 3rd team was from Beaver County ESU. One of those snipers took a shot at Crooks "and got a reaction." (According to Dan Bongino's show that I listened to this morning, https://rumble.com/v57yqe5-this-was-a-coup-directed-at-biden-ep.-2291-07222024.html?e9s=src_v1_ep that shot missed. Dan's reporting facts several days before it appears on the news (he's ex-Secret Service and has many sources inside). About 10 seconds later, the 2nd Secret Service sniper team (on the barn to the left of Trump) fired the shot that killed Crooks.
WHY would they not have had security up there/over there? I know “the slope on the roof” however that doesn’t mean you leave it open they could’ve just stood back and kept parameter check. I mean.. THAT is a wide open field with nothing in the way to the stage . Something’s fishy we know that. I know the people on the left want Trump to be behind it but they are dead ass wrong plus if anyone watched him the other night on tv and really looked at him he looked like he had been through a horrible experience it was in his eyes and all over his face. Especially when Amber was talking about him and he didn’t know when they panned the camera around to him to see his expression. I just do not understand how long the ignorant will stay ignorant? Forever or just until it’s too late?
How long will they stay ignorant? Most people go to their graves never learning the lessons you'd like them to learn. Nothing new there.
The "sloped roof" excuse is beyond the pale. I'm 73 and don't hesitate to get on my roof when needed, and it's got WAY more pitch. These guys are young, fit (except the DEI flunkies), and are expected to risk life and limb to protect the POTUS. I'm just doing some maintenance and I'm up there. The stupidity of many DEI hires, like Cheatle, is otherworldly.
But the local police say they were only handling traffic, and Cheatle, in defending SS for not having anyone on the roof where Crooks was, said that because of its "dangerous" slope her officers were told to observe the stage from inside the building. Witnesses said they saw agents on the second floor with open windows, confirming what you said, and what Cheatle said, but that position puts them behind Crooks and able to see everything Crooks was doing, because unlike the barn countersnipers, those inside the ARG building were on Crook's side of the roof cap. So that makes SS look even worse. Why did they sit back and watch? Did they kill Crooks Or did one of them shoot at Trump? According to Mike Adams, the first shots had a sonic signature corresponding with Crooks position (140 yards), but later shots were from slightly further away. And the latest info, also at The Gateway Pundit, is that most of the agents guarding Trump that day were not actually SS (because those were with Frau Dr. Jill) but instead Homeland Security Inspectors, likely not specifically trained for protective work, which along with DEI may explain the sloppy performance of some. So as Trump might (say if he knew", they didn't send their best.
The local Butler County police were just on traffic control. Four of them were called to look for a suspicious man. However, the Beaver County ESU/SWAT were inside on the 2nd floor of the building behind Crooks.
The following is my comment to a different post, but should answer some of your questions:
There IS a 6th shot after the rapid 5 [right after the second volley], well before the last shot, 10 seconds later. This is not yet accounted for, by no one. Official messages only talk about 1 shot, the kill shot, by the sniper team. Nothing about a missed (?) shot. … Did the sniper teams fire twice? Once right after the second volley, and then again, 10 seconds later? Did that first shot hit Crooks, or get really close, causing him to roll away, coming into view, and then get hit again?”
There have been news reports that two shots were taken at Crooks by the sniper teams. The first (right after the second volley) by the police sniper team and the last kill shot by the Secret Service south sniper team.
Perhaps the ESU officer's shot wounded Crooks who then stopped firing (Or maybe “caused a reaction” like rolling away). Otherwise, why would the ESU sniper stop shooting at Crooks for 10 seconds and allow him to potentially continue shooting?
Perhaps Crooks then moved upward and/or to his right, and moved out of the concealment provided by a tree? (a bystander who was filming Crooks on the roof, said @ 00:20 “He's turning this way!” 10 seconds before the final shot https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/video/trump-rally-shooter-stopped-digvid ) You can clearly hear the 6th & 7th shots (after the 2nd 5-shot volley) sound different from each other and from Crooks. Much better audio than that used by Martenson.
The sniper that eventually shot Crooks saw what was happening and wanted to shoot but was told he couldn’t do it by SS! Then when Crooks shot Trump the guy just automatically fired and killed Crooks but then was arrested and lost his job! Obviously protecting Trump was not the motive of the SS!
If she's talking about the supposed reddit thread- it was actually on 4chan and there is no verification of authenticity on that post. Look on X - @Black6Here. He's posting under the name of UltraMaga. That's where I saw the photos of the post she's talking about. But nobody is talking much about it, including the alternative media, because there's no truth in it. When I researched I found out it was on 4chan.
There is a video showing the main sharpshooters jump/hitch because they are startled by something - a gunshot? One of them actually jumps so much, he moves his rifle and tripod before regaining composure and settling back down and taking a bead. What was it that caused him to jump? The assassins shot? I think that would be odd, because he was looking at the assassin and saw the shot as well, and presumably it was not close enough to them to hear the bullet wizz by. Also, the same group of sharpshooters are looking at the assassin in their binoculars prior to taking position with their rifles, again, aimed at the assassin. I'm not sure what the actual timeframe is when they jump relative to the binocs and taking position. But they definitely waited until the shots were fired before they returned fire. There is another video of when T is getting in the van (with the bumbling SS agent), and at the from of the van is an armed man in fatigues who lowers his weapon and is aiming at the left side of the van as T enters it. He was talking intently with someone over radio before he walked forward and lowered his rifle. I'm very curious what/who he was drawing on, and what the comms were. He was on guard, hanging out, then received comms and after a quick back and forth, walked toward the van and aimed his weapon. Like so many things about this, odd. There are thousands of videos circulating now. We'll get to the bottom of it sometime, but the answer will not be good, and will be denied, then, perhaps, they will lever us into silence when it doesn't match what they say. Be very careful folks, this is an injured beast who does not want to give up power and control. Be very careful.
My question exactly on the snipers both jumping back after the first shots! Why is no one talking about that?! Something about that smells to high heaven. I really want to hear those guys’ testimony as to what happened.
You are talking about what has been named ctr sniper team #1. They did not have a line on the sniper as they were too far North. The team on the south building(Trump's left, behind) had a line of sight and finally took it; team #2.
I don't believe Team #1 actually saw the sniper but he was looking for him when he bumped the rifle up and tried to acquire. He could not see the sniper and never shot-- my take on that.
I know all the drawingsng and computer renditions show a tree in the way but the actual footage does not. Not unless that kid was all the way on the right side of roof, then ran over half the width of the roof to get into position to be shot. Team one has him in their sitess. They just didn't fire. Just like team 2 didn't fire until after the kid or whoever the snipers were in the building took a shot at Trump.
YES, without actual video from position of team #1 it is not possible to actually be sure they had no shot. Maybe a line through the foliage. . .? I have seen NO video from team #1 position itself. THIS is what is needed, not from another point.
When I laid it out I tried to run a line from team#1's position to where the kid laid at death. No shot from vertical overhead, satellite view-- only. But, #2 had a clear shot.
This is ALL speculation without the video and verification from team #1 testimony under oath.
I'm working on putting that post together, so check my page later tonight. I have shots from folks on the bleachers than run a straight line through the team 1 spot and you can see the kid in the picture. The tree was sparae and growing at a steep angle the other way. Team 1 has him locked in their scope for a couple minutes at least. Cell phone cameras catch every angle of everything nowadays, thank God. It's almost worth the health risk of carrying them. Almost, but not.
What is more important to me is why was this person was not stopped and detained between minutes 5:10 and 5:52... thats almost an hour he had to set himself up to do the deed and he was ignored, not stopped at any point, from carrying in a ladder to using a range finder, to going though a fence several times that should have been secured, to bringing a back pack in.. This was an inside job! ....see Courages Discourse by John Leake for article
Trump should never have been allowed to take the stage for this very reason. THIS is the lynch pin that basically proves collusion, intervention from above heirarchy, conspiracy to kill Donald J. Trump.
This comes from a reliable journalist based in Germany: "WPXI, however, are reporting that “a local police sniper” has been placed on administrative leave for firing his weapon at Crooks. The Butler County District Attorney nevertheless confirms “that it’s his understanding the shot that killed Crooks was fired by the Secret Service.” The Secret Service have also separately claimed responsibility for the kill. The problem is this: After Crooks concludes his eight-shot volley, I can find only one further shot in all the audio that is available to us. It’s possible, I guess, that I’ve missed something, or that our recordings simply failed to pick up all of the counter-sniper fire, but it’s equally possible that valued reader Bootsorourke was right, and that local law enforcement were responsible for the kill shot. Perhaps the Secret Service are claiming otherwise only to save themselves further embarrassment, and with the investigation in the hands of the FBI, local police have no means of establishing for themselves what really happened."
I have heard many different people say that the snipers had to get the ok from the SS before they could fire the first shot?
If that is true, then why didn’t SS give the ok immediately?
And I didn’t realize it took the snipers that long to return fire?
Also I find it odd that CNN & MSNBC has never live-streamed prior Trump rallies (at least this year, not sure about 2016), but both far Left radical MSM news stationed chose to livestream this one?
Of course we will probably never know the truth because the corrupt far Left radical Deep State FBI will destroy & hide evidence for their elite NWO agenda & they are desperate to get rid of President Trump & destroy the USA for their globalist NWO agenda.
Next thing is to set up a Warren Commission led by Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe and Strzok. Obviously, they could not take out their version of Lee Harvey Oswald because the government shooter had to get his shots off at the same time.
If only Alan Dulles and Gerald Ford were still available to help guide the coverup--the instruction letter to the Warren Commission from one of Johnston's people said it was their job to convince the public that it was Oswald acting alone.
It's unlikely that any of the snipers on the red building took the shot that killed him, they were not able to see him in the scopes, he was just below their line of site. The shooter fired three times and ducked down, a butler county ems fired five quick rounds and missed, then five second later the last and very quiet shot is heard, that is the round that hit the shooter, it's likely that round came from either much further away or from inside of a building, which is why it's not nearly as loud as the rest of the shots. Most likely from inside of a building because if it was a long range sniper he would also have been using a 300win like the guys on the roof and that would have blown half his head off. The counter-sniper who took out the shooter was able to do so because he was shooting from a different angle completely. The inside story is that they were running around inside those other buildings trying to find a position from which they could see him and when they did it was still almost impossible to get the right angle.
Why don't we know who shot and when by now? Why didn't they put someone on the roof, why did they let Trump take the stage knowing someone was on the roof with a rangefinder, so many questions.
Thanks for that. Where did you learn that the second volley of shots came from the "butler county ems"? That doesn't explain all the injuries in the crowd.
Could the shot from much further away have come from the water tower? The delay could have been "give him time", failed, then take the 'dead men tell no tales' shot.
Although the description was "blew his head off" I had seen an uncensored image of the young man - his head was still on, and intact.
I saw an interview of one of their officials and he let it drop. The official didn't say where he shot from or anything like that, just that he hadn't neutralized the shooter.
That shot could be made with a 308 sniper rifle from the water tower fairly easy, so it's still possible, it's just that the 300win would be what you would normally see up there. If there is shenanigans then maybe they would use the 308, who knows? Back when I was serving the 308 was still the standard sniper rifle and was used for longer shots than that one. Now they use the larger rounds, even up to the fifty caliber and the 308 sniper rifle gets used where there are no long lines of sight, so does the 5.56 actually, the marines use it some but again it's for shorter distances and where they might be worried about what's on the other side of the target.
When 1 critical security protocol is neglected, things become very suspicious. When 2 critical security protocols are neglected, things become damn near certain that insiders were involved in foul play. When 15+ critical security protocols are neglected, as is the case with incidents surrounding the assassination attempt on Trump, it becomes *impossible* for insider-orchestrated foul play *not* to have occurred.
It takes deliberate effort to make so many ‘mistakes’; there is literally no other way this could have happened the way it did.
In order for that many mistakes to occur, someone(s) in a central supervisory position had to set up the chess pieces just right, so that multiple layers of neglect, confusion, breakdown in communication, blinds for plausible deniability, and “clean-up investigators” (ie: operatives in the FBI) were all in place.
The one video of the counter snipers just before Crooks shot shows the one counter sniper with his gun on the high tripod looking through his scope and then he raises his head up to take a look visually. A split second later is the sound of Crooks shooting. Then the counter sniper went quickly back to his scope- I'm assuming to take the shot. Wonder why he paused to look away from the scope. Very strange. He needs to be subpoenaed (as they all do) to answer some questions.
he could not SEE the shooter. (Sniper team #1)-- Tree. Confused because he heard the shot and could not see from where. . . I laid it out on Google Earth and with the placement of people in this drama only ctr sniper team #2 could see the sniper.
Another bit of physical evidence to keep our eyes out for is spent cartridges (brass). Certainly lots of other video out there that hasn't come forward, as well. Always is.
Certainly deliberate lapses in security.
I have a suspicion that as time goes on we may start to learn more about the parents' involvement, especially the mother. This boy was manipulated somewhere along the line, probably starting with when it was announced Trump would be speaking in PA. We've already seen the mindset of so many Dims and it is murderous.
Victoria Nuland's comments are quite revealing. The massive short position against DJT stock is, as well.
Boy was either a patsy and a different shooter took the near-miss shot or the SS/CIA got someone who could reasonably shoot and figured they could get him so close he could not possibly miss.
They say the best lies contain elements of truth, to help sell the lie. So it's possible the FBI could tell the truth selectively. But just because someone uses the name Crooks doesn't mean they aren't open to revision. Calling him shooter or sniper is confusing in that those terms, or even "suspect," could also apply to the government operatives.
Either the Secret Service removes the shooter from the roof or takes him out at 5:52 or NO ONE TAKES THE STAGE…unless they were enabling the whole thing.
As Dan Bongino has said over and over, how the H@LL was Trump allowed on that X when they KNEW almost an hour earlier there was a real threat to him.
And that's if it's real and was an inside set up. There are MANY things wrong with the whole picture. Why such a small crowd when they usually report 1,000's? Why weren't people running to get out.were there any injuries due to people trying to get out. How did they know there weren't additional shooters? The still's have people in them looking down on their phones or talking to the person beside them? One looks like he's watching a 4th down drive on the goal line. Why would any of them had still been in those seats? A former President has just been shot. The very shiney red blood was not on Trump's collar, or hand that was on his ear? The secret service let him stay to retrieve his shoes and hat? Why did they take his shoes off? To look for injuries, maybe? Why stay for the items? He was just shot at right? The secret service appears to be laying over 2 people, protecting them? Why is he pointing. The former president was just shot why isn't his firearm out? Any many more...
Nothing adds up. Gunshots sound different in different videos… different patterns. Have heard two sides about bloody ear and nothing on Trumps hand. Either one might be true. All videos leave something out we can’t see. I didn’t want to believe this could be staged, but I’m thinking more and more we are being lied to from EVERYONE & EVERYWHERE! Maybe here too. Any story could be true or false. ANYONE can be an actor. I’m thinking we are all wasting our time.
Deception and psy ops are everywhere.
This really sums it up
Federal Bureau of Instigation CANNOT be trusted to investigate shoplifting fish rots from the head they’ve been done for decades. Authoritarian liars. Oh you mean the people at ruby ridge or waco or ok city or knowing trump dossier was a fake and running with it. Hiding the laptop and scaring the shit out of the computer shop owner white supremacy and deplorable rednecks like myself are the problem those guys?…………..
Guess the FBI sniper from Ruby Ridge retired.
Lon Horiuchi. POS.
Guess who was running DOJ at the time of Ruby Ridge...Barr. yep that POS.
Yes.
And you can't tell me that kid just had beginners luck knowing how to scope out the scene, get into position and know what to do. NO FREAKING WAY
I cannot get over the timeline of 26 seconds from the shooter pulling the trigger the first time, to being taken out by the counter-sniper team.
Recall the July 2022 Indiana hero, Elisjsha Dicken, who 15 seconds after hearing a gunman open fire in the mall food court, returned fire, and neutralized the threat by hitting him 8 times, the first of which proved fatal.
https://fox59.com/news/national-world/grateful-for-his-heroism-man-stopped-indiana-mall-shooter-in-15-seconds/
"6:12 p.m. Crooks fires first shots. Crooks shot 26 seconds later."
The timeline is wrong. I went back and watched and listened to the video of the shooting. You can hear the kill shot about 16 seconds after the shooter fired his first round. The kill shot was about 10 seconds after the shooter's 2nd burst. Arn Grimr wrote a great analysis that argues the shooter moved from his first position (that was concealed by a tree from BOTH sniper teams) to try to get a better angle after Trump was down. That would explain the 10 second pause. He was moving, then came into view of the 2nd sniper team and was shot. https://arngrimr.substack.com/p/trump-assassination-attempt-separating (I also wrote several Comments there this morning).
Thanks for the added info!
Re: "BOTH sniper teams"--by Director Cheatle's own admission, there was a third team, the one that couldn't risk going on the low-angle roof Crooks was on because it was "too steep" and was told to observe from inside the building. Turns out they were in the only two-story section of the building directly facing both the speaker's podium and the roof Crooks was on. If a sniper shot Crooks, the shot could easily have come from the team behind him. Did at least some of the shots at Trump come from inside the building?
Yes. The 3rd team was from Beaver County ESU. One of those snipers took a shot at Crooks "and got a reaction." (According to Dan Bongino's show that I listened to this morning, https://rumble.com/v57yqe5-this-was-a-coup-directed-at-biden-ep.-2291-07222024.html?e9s=src_v1_ep that shot missed. Dan's reporting facts several days before it appears on the news (he's ex-Secret Service and has many sources inside). About 10 seconds later, the 2nd Secret Service sniper team (on the barn to the left of Trump) fired the shot that killed Crooks.
Thanks for the link.
WHY would they not have had security up there/over there? I know “the slope on the roof” however that doesn’t mean you leave it open they could’ve just stood back and kept parameter check. I mean.. THAT is a wide open field with nothing in the way to the stage . Something’s fishy we know that. I know the people on the left want Trump to be behind it but they are dead ass wrong plus if anyone watched him the other night on tv and really looked at him he looked like he had been through a horrible experience it was in his eyes and all over his face. Especially when Amber was talking about him and he didn’t know when they panned the camera around to him to see his expression. I just do not understand how long the ignorant will stay ignorant? Forever or just until it’s too late?
How long will they stay ignorant? Most people go to their graves never learning the lessons you'd like them to learn. Nothing new there.
The "sloped roof" excuse is beyond the pale. I'm 73 and don't hesitate to get on my roof when needed, and it's got WAY more pitch. These guys are young, fit (except the DEI flunkies), and are expected to risk life and limb to protect the POTUS. I'm just doing some maintenance and I'm up there. The stupidity of many DEI hires, like Cheatle, is otherworldly.
The corruption is otherworldly as well.
wasn't the slope on the roof the SS counter snipers were actually on STEEPER???
Yes. As is the front roof of the White House where the USSS stands on a regular basis.
There was a 3rd sniper team that was responsible for "security up there/over there". It was a local police sniper team, not Secret Service. "there were two sniper teams set up near the building where Thomas Crooks fired from Saturday evening. However, in direct contrast to comments made by Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle, there were no local police in the same building where Crooks made it on the roof." https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/wpxi-exclusive-photos-show-cell-phone-transmitter-found-next-trump-shooters-body/CDQGAB4ZXNCINEGXNAYHAKTJFQ/
That building the police snipers were in is the 2-story located next to the shooter's roof. Instead of staying inside on the 2nd floor, those teams should have been outside on the roof so they could actually cover all the nearby roofs. https://www.eugyppius.com/p/cock-ups-conspiracies-and-the-failed?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=268621&post_id=146745801&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=105v9&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
But the local police say they were only handling traffic, and Cheatle, in defending SS for not having anyone on the roof where Crooks was, said that because of its "dangerous" slope her officers were told to observe the stage from inside the building. Witnesses said they saw agents on the second floor with open windows, confirming what you said, and what Cheatle said, but that position puts them behind Crooks and able to see everything Crooks was doing, because unlike the barn countersnipers, those inside the ARG building were on Crook's side of the roof cap. So that makes SS look even worse. Why did they sit back and watch? Did they kill Crooks Or did one of them shoot at Trump? According to Mike Adams, the first shots had a sonic signature corresponding with Crooks position (140 yards), but later shots were from slightly further away. And the latest info, also at The Gateway Pundit, is that most of the agents guarding Trump that day were not actually SS (because those were with Frau Dr. Jill) but instead Homeland Security Inspectors, likely not specifically trained for protective work, which along with DEI may explain the sloppy performance of some. So as Trump might (say if he knew", they didn't send their best.
The local Butler County police were just on traffic control. Four of them were called to look for a suspicious man. However, the Beaver County ESU/SWAT were inside on the 2nd floor of the building behind Crooks.
The following is my comment to a different post, but should answer some of your questions:
There IS a 6th shot after the rapid 5 [right after the second volley], well before the last shot, 10 seconds later. This is not yet accounted for, by no one. Official messages only talk about 1 shot, the kill shot, by the sniper team. Nothing about a missed (?) shot. … Did the sniper teams fire twice? Once right after the second volley, and then again, 10 seconds later? Did that first shot hit Crooks, or get really close, causing him to roll away, coming into view, and then get hit again?”
https://arngrimr.substack.com/p/forensic-audio-analysis-more-than
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There have been news reports that two shots were taken at Crooks by the sniper teams. The first (right after the second volley) by the police sniper team and the last kill shot by the Secret Service south sniper team.
Local news reported that "County District Attorney Richard Goldinger said a Beaver County Emergency Services Unit officer fired a shot that "appeared to cause a reaction from Crooks" https://www.wtae.com/article/trump-rally-shooting-investigation-homeland-security-crooks/61629040
Those ESU officers were located in the 2nd floor of the building behind Crooks (see diagram in link).https://www.eugyppius.com/p/cock-ups-conspiracies-and-the-failed
Perhaps the ESU officer's shot wounded Crooks who then stopped firing (Or maybe “caused a reaction” like rolling away). Otherwise, why would the ESU sniper stop shooting at Crooks for 10 seconds and allow him to potentially continue shooting?
Perhaps Crooks then moved upward and/or to his right, and moved out of the concealment provided by a tree? (a bystander who was filming Crooks on the roof, said @ 00:20 “He's turning this way!” 10 seconds before the final shot https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/video/trump-rally-shooter-stopped-digvid ) You can clearly hear the 6th & 7th shots (after the 2nd 5-shot volley) sound different from each other and from Crooks. Much better audio than that used by Martenson.
Once Crooks became visible to the Secret Service south sniper team they fired the final, fatal shot ten seconds later. (see Dan Bongino Show @11:00 https://rumble.com/v57ft7n-the-troubling-truth-is-starting-to-emerge-ep.-2289-07182024.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email )
The sniper that eventually shot Crooks saw what was happening and wanted to shoot but was told he couldn’t do it by SS! Then when Crooks shot Trump the guy just automatically fired and killed Crooks but then was arrested and lost his job! Obviously protecting Trump was not the motive of the SS!
The sniper who killed the would-be assassin was arrested and lost his job? Had not heard that. Any links or references?
If she's talking about the supposed reddit thread- it was actually on 4chan and there is no verification of authenticity on that post. Look on X - @Black6Here. He's posting under the name of UltraMaga. That's where I saw the photos of the post she's talking about. But nobody is talking much about it, including the alternative media, because there's no truth in it. When I researched I found out it was on 4chan.
That man, after he lost his job, went to the media and told the whole story.
I read so much that I can’t remember exactly where I saw it. If I find it again I will post the source.
Please do. That doesn't sound right, seems like it would be all over Substack.
Look up Jonathan Willis sniper. The MSM is vehemently denying this but I believe it.
That doesn’t seem right? Fired?? Where did you get this info?
It's not right. See my explanation above.
How do you know this?
There is a video showing the main sharpshooters jump/hitch because they are startled by something - a gunshot? One of them actually jumps so much, he moves his rifle and tripod before regaining composure and settling back down and taking a bead. What was it that caused him to jump? The assassins shot? I think that would be odd, because he was looking at the assassin and saw the shot as well, and presumably it was not close enough to them to hear the bullet wizz by. Also, the same group of sharpshooters are looking at the assassin in their binoculars prior to taking position with their rifles, again, aimed at the assassin. I'm not sure what the actual timeframe is when they jump relative to the binocs and taking position. But they definitely waited until the shots were fired before they returned fire. There is another video of when T is getting in the van (with the bumbling SS agent), and at the from of the van is an armed man in fatigues who lowers his weapon and is aiming at the left side of the van as T enters it. He was talking intently with someone over radio before he walked forward and lowered his rifle. I'm very curious what/who he was drawing on, and what the comms were. He was on guard, hanging out, then received comms and after a quick back and forth, walked toward the van and aimed his weapon. Like so many things about this, odd. There are thousands of videos circulating now. We'll get to the bottom of it sometime, but the answer will not be good, and will be denied, then, perhaps, they will lever us into silence when it doesn't match what they say. Be very careful folks, this is an injured beast who does not want to give up power and control. Be very careful.
My question exactly on the snipers both jumping back after the first shots! Why is no one talking about that?! Something about that smells to high heaven. I really want to hear those guys’ testimony as to what happened.
did not see him.
Find counter sniper team #2, south, on the other building. They took out the sniper.
You are talking about what has been named ctr sniper team #1. They did not have a line on the sniper as they were too far North. The team on the south building(Trump's left, behind) had a line of sight and finally took it; team #2.
I don't believe Team #1 actually saw the sniper but he was looking for him when he bumped the rifle up and tried to acquire. He could not see the sniper and never shot-- my take on that.
I know all the drawingsng and computer renditions show a tree in the way but the actual footage does not. Not unless that kid was all the way on the right side of roof, then ran over half the width of the roof to get into position to be shot. Team one has him in their sitess. They just didn't fire. Just like team 2 didn't fire until after the kid or whoever the snipers were in the building took a shot at Trump.
YES, without actual video from position of team #1 it is not possible to actually be sure they had no shot. Maybe a line through the foliage. . .? I have seen NO video from team #1 position itself. THIS is what is needed, not from another point.
When I laid it out I tried to run a line from team#1's position to where the kid laid at death. No shot from vertical overhead, satellite view-- only. But, #2 had a clear shot.
This is ALL speculation without the video and verification from team #1 testimony under oath.
I'm working on putting that post together, so check my page later tonight. I have shots from folks on the bleachers than run a straight line through the team 1 spot and you can see the kid in the picture. The tree was sparae and growing at a steep angle the other way. Team 1 has him locked in their scope for a couple minutes at least. Cell phone cameras catch every angle of everything nowadays, thank God. It's almost worth the health risk of carrying them. Almost, but not.
What is more important to me is why was this person was not stopped and detained between minutes 5:10 and 5:52... thats almost an hour he had to set himself up to do the deed and he was ignored, not stopped at any point, from carrying in a ladder to using a range finder, to going though a fence several times that should have been secured, to bringing a back pack in.. This was an inside job! ....see Courages Discourse by John Leake for article
Trump should never have been allowed to take the stage for this very reason. THIS is the lynch pin that basically proves collusion, intervention from above heirarchy, conspiracy to kill Donald J. Trump.
Something smells fishy.
Perhaps it is the smell of the rot from within the highest levels of justice and security?
This comes from a reliable journalist based in Germany: "WPXI, however, are reporting that “a local police sniper” has been placed on administrative leave for firing his weapon at Crooks. The Butler County District Attorney nevertheless confirms “that it’s his understanding the shot that killed Crooks was fired by the Secret Service.” The Secret Service have also separately claimed responsibility for the kill. The problem is this: After Crooks concludes his eight-shot volley, I can find only one further shot in all the audio that is available to us. It’s possible, I guess, that I’ve missed something, or that our recordings simply failed to pick up all of the counter-sniper fire, but it’s equally possible that valued reader Bootsorourke was right, and that local law enforcement were responsible for the kill shot. Perhaps the Secret Service are claiming otherwise only to save themselves further embarrassment, and with the investigation in the hands of the FBI, local police have no means of establishing for themselves what really happened."
I recall hearing a different sounding shot among the 2nd 5 round burst from the shooter. That was probably the police sniper shot.
I have heard many different people say that the snipers had to get the ok from the SS before they could fire the first shot?
If that is true, then why didn’t SS give the ok immediately?
And I didn’t realize it took the snipers that long to return fire?
Also I find it odd that CNN & MSNBC has never live-streamed prior Trump rallies (at least this year, not sure about 2016), but both far Left radical MSM news stationed chose to livestream this one?
Of course we will probably never know the truth because the corrupt far Left radical Deep State FBI will destroy & hide evidence for their elite NWO agenda & they are desperate to get rid of President Trump & destroy the USA for their globalist NWO agenda.
Forgive this old Patriot grandma’s rant…
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none of them should have had to ask for permission to shoot because Trump should NEVER been allowed to take the stage to allow a shot.
This WAS a conspiracy to kill Trump.
Same reason CNN was at Roger Stone's house before he was SWATed: looking for a Zapruder moment of their own.
Next thing is to set up a Warren Commission led by Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe and Strzok. Obviously, they could not take out their version of Lee Harvey Oswald because the government shooter had to get his shots off at the same time.
If only Alan Dulles and Gerald Ford were still available to help guide the coverup--the instruction letter to the Warren Commission from one of Johnston's people said it was their job to convince the public that it was Oswald acting alone.
It's unlikely that any of the snipers on the red building took the shot that killed him, they were not able to see him in the scopes, he was just below their line of site. The shooter fired three times and ducked down, a butler county ems fired five quick rounds and missed, then five second later the last and very quiet shot is heard, that is the round that hit the shooter, it's likely that round came from either much further away or from inside of a building, which is why it's not nearly as loud as the rest of the shots. Most likely from inside of a building because if it was a long range sniper he would also have been using a 300win like the guys on the roof and that would have blown half his head off. The counter-sniper who took out the shooter was able to do so because he was shooting from a different angle completely. The inside story is that they were running around inside those other buildings trying to find a position from which they could see him and when they did it was still almost impossible to get the right angle.
Why don't we know who shot and when by now? Why didn't they put someone on the roof, why did they let Trump take the stage knowing someone was on the roof with a rangefinder, so many questions.
Thanks for that. Where did you learn that the second volley of shots came from the "butler county ems"? That doesn't explain all the injuries in the crowd.
Could the shot from much further away have come from the water tower? The delay could have been "give him time", failed, then take the 'dead men tell no tales' shot.
Although the description was "blew his head off" I had seen an uncensored image of the young man - his head was still on, and intact.
I saw an interview of one of their officials and he let it drop. The official didn't say where he shot from or anything like that, just that he hadn't neutralized the shooter.
That shot could be made with a 308 sniper rifle from the water tower fairly easy, so it's still possible, it's just that the 300win would be what you would normally see up there. If there is shenanigans then maybe they would use the 308, who knows? Back when I was serving the 308 was still the standard sniper rifle and was used for longer shots than that one. Now they use the larger rounds, even up to the fifty caliber and the 308 sniper rifle gets used where there are no long lines of sight, so does the 5.56 actually, the marines use it some but again it's for shorter distances and where they might be worried about what's on the other side of the target.
Trump just said that neutralising shot was from "a much greater distance" and described it as an SS sniper.
When 1 critical security protocol is neglected, things become very suspicious. When 2 critical security protocols are neglected, things become damn near certain that insiders were involved in foul play. When 15+ critical security protocols are neglected, as is the case with incidents surrounding the assassination attempt on Trump, it becomes *impossible* for insider-orchestrated foul play *not* to have occurred.
It takes deliberate effort to make so many ‘mistakes’; there is literally no other way this could have happened the way it did.
In order for that many mistakes to occur, someone(s) in a central supervisory position had to set up the chess pieces just right, so that multiple layers of neglect, confusion, breakdown in communication, blinds for plausible deniability, and “clean-up investigators” (ie: operatives in the FBI) were all in place.
As Ian Fleming wrote, once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.
The one video of the counter snipers just before Crooks shot shows the one counter sniper with his gun on the high tripod looking through his scope and then he raises his head up to take a look visually. A split second later is the sound of Crooks shooting. Then the counter sniper went quickly back to his scope- I'm assuming to take the shot. Wonder why he paused to look away from the scope. Very strange. He needs to be subpoenaed (as they all do) to answer some questions.
he could not SEE the shooter. (Sniper team #1)-- Tree. Confused because he heard the shot and could not see from where. . . I laid it out on Google Earth and with the placement of people in this drama only ctr sniper team #2 could see the sniper.
Another bit of physical evidence to keep our eyes out for is spent cartridges (brass). Certainly lots of other video out there that hasn't come forward, as well. Always is.
Certainly deliberate lapses in security.
I have a suspicion that as time goes on we may start to learn more about the parents' involvement, especially the mother. This boy was manipulated somewhere along the line, probably starting with when it was announced Trump would be speaking in PA. We've already seen the mindset of so many Dims and it is murderous.
Victoria Nuland's comments are quite revealing. The massive short position against DJT stock is, as well.
Boy was either a patsy and a different shooter took the near-miss shot or the SS/CIA got someone who could reasonably shoot and figured they could get him so close he could not possibly miss.
American government: Incompetent even in malice.
I'll keep saying this......
People do NOT trust the FBLie, but yet they ARE TRUSTING that the FBLie has named the ACTUAL individual who did the shooting???
Someone PLEASE EXPLAIN this! (I already know the answer.....)
It's called COGNITIVE DISSONANCE; and it IS a Mental Illness!
Those who BELIEVE the FBLie that the shooter was 'Thomas Crooks', needs to check into a Psych Ward!
The FBLie should be believed........ZERO.......0%!!
NONE of what they are saying is true! NONE OF IT! As we can SEE with our own NON-LYING EYES.
Remember, kids......it IS Upside Down Clown World. And things are THE OPPOSITE of what 'THEY SAY'!
Spot On my friend , Spot On 👍☝️🙏
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They say the best lies contain elements of truth, to help sell the lie. So it's possible the FBI could tell the truth selectively. But just because someone uses the name Crooks doesn't mean they aren't open to revision. Calling him shooter or sniper is confusing in that those terms, or even "suspect," could also apply to the government operatives.