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This paragraph really hit home with me. I know many who fall into this description.

“ The fact that stupid people are often stubborn should not hide the fact that they are not independent. When talking to him, one feels that one is not dealing with him personally, but with catchphrases, slogans, etc. that have taken possession of him. He is under a spell; he is blinded; he is abused in his own being.”

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Yes,

This paragraph could also apply to dealing with Narcissists.

After some time, you realise that these people cannot see reason and are incapable of change. Trapped in their own ego, they seem possessed by it.

Replace "Stupidity" with "Narcissism" and its pretty much the same article.

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When children are punished for their NATURAL narcissistic needs and tendencies, they will NOT naturally outgrow these needs and tendencies.

A piece of gruesome, little known, historical context...

The Childhood Origins of World War II and the Holocaust

https://psychohistory.com/books/the-origins-of-war-in-child-abuse/chapter-6-the-childhood-origins-of-world-war-ii-and-the-holocaust/

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Well, since the vast majority never grow up (obviously), we have an explanation for the pickle we Americans are in today. Same as always, I guess.

“Laziness and cowardice are the reasons why so great a proportion of men, long after nature has released them from alien guidance (natura-liter maiorennes), nonetheless gladly remain in lifelong immaturity, and why it is so easy for others to establish themselves as their guardians. It is so easy to be immature.”

IMMANUEL KANT

An Answer to the Question:

What is Enlightenment? (1784)

http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

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I got partway through this article and could not complete it. Just out of the park. Too much of a jump to the conclusions advanced.

It seems to me there must have been SOME level of decent-human, non-childbinding, non- murderous mothers in pre-Nazi Germany. This article, as much as I could read, appears to extrapolate what may have been a few isolated instances and papers, into a conclusion that this practice and demeanor was generally widespread throughout the German country. It also appears your own conclusions extrapolate this infant punishment and punishment of everyday childhood desires led to Hitler being the person he developed into-- completely. At the same time one must accept that his personality was little affected by his peer associations, general parental and neighborhood social interactions, his World War I experience, or his lack of Christian upbringing.

This is an astounding theory of what may have been a cause but, from my worldview, it could only be of minor potential. But that is just me.

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Yes, it's difficult to know how extensively it permeates in the culture, isn't it?

I'm reminded of the reading my wife and I did when we were expecting our first baby; how some cultures sleep with their babies and cuddle them a lot, whilst others put babies in another room and leave them to cry. The Yanomami are cuddlers, and society is relaxed, non-hierarchical. Other tribes do not, and there seems to be a correlation with hostility and aggression in the latter. The same difference is seen in Polynesian culture compared to Melanesian culture. Similarly I worked in a baboon sanctuary in Namibia, and orphan baboon babies are given a nappy and a human volunteer (there's no shortage!) to cuddle with asleep at night, or they do not thrive. You may remember the emergence of the story of conditions in the Romanian orphanages, and how damaged the children were from lack of attention.

I don't know if you live in a culture where hugging people when you meet is the norm, but it is easy to tell the difference between those who were cuddled sufficiently or not. Those who weren't are stiff and "uncuddly".

Germany (Prussia really) gave the world it's cold regimented education system, when they made a conscious decision in that direction after losing the battle of Jena.

I don't know how extensive the problem was in between-war Germany, but it's certainly a factor worth considering.

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cute avatar, well done!

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Brilliant - thank you.

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I'm currently reading the article from Psychohistory.

I have advanced degrees in the social sciences and only had a vague impression that there was harshness associated with childrearing in those years.

This explains so much. Thank you again...

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Feb 24, 2023·edited Feb 24, 2023

Now we have the reverse. We are breeding spoilt, entitled, narcissistic brutes causing even worse outcomes.

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It's not exactly the "reverse".... Child abuse is child abuse, no matter the form it takes, some more insidious than others, especially when it's done "for your own good".

The "spoilt, entitled, narcissistic brutes" could only come about by having their NATURAL childhood narcissistic NEEDS frustrated, ignored, and/or punished.

The longterm solution:

Aware Parenting

www.awareparenting.com

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I've come to view this as a good thing as well as inevitable. At some point things get so nutzo that they can only improve.

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Heavy stuff

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Nah. Not really.

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The origins of war link, not your comment.

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This is not heavy, it's more histrionic porn, and more likely than not the product of a pathetically diseased mind and probably a case of projection on the author's part. It's an example of garbage that's so hideous it even smells bad over the internet. Trash.:

"LATE 19TH-CENTURY GERMAN AND AUSTRIAN CHILDREARING

The first decision German and Austrian parents had to make when an infant was born was whether it should be killed. Newborn were not in most cases considered human since they did not yet have a soul, and so could be “killed in a kind of late abortion.”3 Mothers often “had their babies in the privy, and treated the birth as an evacuation…a bowel movement…killing their children by smashing their heads like poultry.”4

Who could take that sort of thing seriously? Good grief.

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This is rather interesting. Do you have supporting links I can read to further understand the mindset at the time?

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The mindset of the times, as shown by the propagnada, is full of anti-German (anti_Christian, really), hatred. Quite astonishing, really.

"We shall not get excited. We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day ... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or if you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian woman. If you kill one German, kill another -- there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses."

-Ilya Ehrenberg, Red propagandist, WW2 as quoted in The Strange Life of Ilya Ehrenburg, by Mark Weber

https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p507_Weber.html

I did a quick search for Ehrenberg's work, but it appears that some of the most attention getting things have been scrubbed from the internet. The link above is working as of a few minutes ago.

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Germany went into Russia with WRITTEN orders that they were in a war of exterminatioin of the Slavs.

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Thank you for this link 👍

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Thank you++ S N Rogers for this chapter 6 reference. Unpalatable as this child abuse history is, the important talking points raised here are especially relevant today.

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It's not only unpalatable but way over the top. That anyone lends any credence to it is astonishing.

BTW, does the author deal with the very real yet very widespread form of abuse and perversion known as circumcision? If so what's said about it, and if not, why would that be?

The topic is important because it relates to a lot of the child abuse going on today especially that sanctioned by "authorities."

Hepatitis jabs on newborns? Covid toxins injected in kids? The primitive, abusive mindset is alive and as monstrous as ever it seems. We should be pointing fingers at ourselves, it seems.

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This is good but I do not think Hitler alone hypnotised the masses. Looking into it Hitler was a puppet of the same cabal that is psychologically manipulating populas around Covid. It’s a huge programming. Many many aspects involved. And the same perpetrating collective.

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I had to go search for references to the child rearing practices that led to these emotionally crippled Germans of the 19th century. I had read it decades ago.

https://home.kpn.nl/mok00036/Melancholia5.htm

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/original-struwwelpeter-illustrations-childrens-moral-lesson-book

This period had followed what was considered to be a progressive re-evaluation of childhood in the mid-late 18th century. https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/13981113

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This sounds interesting, but the link is not working for me. Can you tell me the author please?

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🙌 AMEN!!! I live with one!

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Me too! And most of my hi iq friends took the jab because they are stupid propagandized idiots

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Indeed.

A friend of a friend was insisting that Florida hospitals were all overflowing. I looked up official government hospital occupancy, and they were hardly overflowing. Her response sounded like it was ripped from a script, and even included the trope of the unvaccinated crying and shrieking on their deathbeds about how they wished they had been vaccinated.

Because intubated people are so talkative, you know.

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One of my daughters came to Miami to visit and thought she had a kidney infection (was a UTI) and had me take her to the ER at a local hospital. It was empty! I asked where all the Covid patients were and they said in the back. I walked all over the ER including in the back. They were empty! I am in South Florida. This was smack in the middle of the plandemic. A neighbor of mine went to another local hospital with her husband and the nurses there told them they were experimenting on and killing people in the hospital and that they (the nurses)would rather die @home!

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Yes, despite the constant implication that hospitals were full to the brim, actually when I looked in the UK, at the hight of the "pandemic" in 2019, bed occupancy was down from the usual 95% to a record low of 65%.

But you can't use reason to move someone from a position they arrived at through emotion not reason.

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Literally made me laugh out loud. I’ve had dozens of discussions with my brother in law- a not unintelligent man- that always, without fail, end in parroted catch phrases and ideological sayings that can only be understood by someone willing to continually define or explain them in a circular manner. “A because of B, B because of C, C because of A.” Ok, but what IS A? A result of B. Etc.

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Literally made me laugh out loud. I’ve had dozens of discussions with my brother in law- a not unintelligent man- that always, without fail, end in parroted catch phrases and ideological sayings that can only be understood by someone willing to continually define or explain them in a circular manner. “A because of B, B because of C, C because of A.” Ok, but what IS A? A result of B. Etc.

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You might be interested in my attempt at dealing with this apparently intractable stupidity -

"Coping with Disagreement (and Being Wrong)"

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/coping-with-disagreement-and-being

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Very interesting movie watched itc several months ago

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Death is what the German people were facing. They deserve to be admired especially since they had a clue that they were being messed with unlike those who fell for the jab and the jabbers who deceived them.

Same basic principles at play here. Not hard to see.

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Exactly. The jabbed in my world fell for the BS hook line and sinker. We had all of 2020 to smell it out. Could not have been anymore obvious. Brilliant people getting stupid day by day. Amazing. Cult like. When they ridiculed and shamed me I just said it`s experimental and too risky. Even now i don`t say I told you so. They are either dead or injured trying to figure out what`s wrong with them some even denying it`s the clot shot they raved about that`s killing them. They know but too proud to admit it. What did Jeshua say about pride?

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Fine comment. You have described my experience exactly.

The whole scam was obvious from the start, but "smart" people (such as a pharmacist in the family) fell for it and laughed and sneered at those of us who refused the propaganda and the jabs.

Still, there is no point in saying that we told you so or even saying anything about it.

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pride goeth before the fall.

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The hour is late for forgiveness/redemption/absolution. All of which i do espouse.

In his writings published in 1951, Bonhoeffer states “ in this state of affairs, we must refrain from attempts to convince the stupid. The Bible says the fear of God is the inner liberation of man. Only then may stupidity (and its resultant evil) be overcome.”

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This really resonated with me today, so thank you! A cousin just told me day before yesterday that I am no longer allowed to discuss either “Covid or politics” around he and his wife. I am an independent, if I vote, and I was a Democrat for most of my younger life. He is my age, in his 60s, and what we can call a “Blue Anon”- a rabid, angry, Dem who wants to censor people, thinks Twitter “should have that right because it’s a private company” and other rubbish. I of course told him, I won’t be able to never talk about “Covid or politics” in his presence again- that this was censoring and no way to treat a friend or a family member. Plus, he talks politics nearly nonstop. He then wrote back that I am a “classic narcissist” and that he “doesn’t hate me, but” that he is “walking away from me permanently.” All because he had first sent me a puff piece on how “great a president Biden is“ and I had had the temerity to simply disagree. These “shit-libs” as Jimmy Dore calls them, are really out of hand. Funny too that at Thanksgiving, he and his wife caught Covid and I had given them HCQ and ivm to take for five days each and they recovered rapidly…. Wonders never cease!

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Thank you for your heartfelt story. I am so sorry to hear you had to go through this with family. I went through the same experience...identical, really...with my childhood best friend. She would email me tweets of Kamala, just to irritate. When I disagreed and then asked her to stop provoking discord, she called me a narcissist, blocked me on her phone & email, & with that, 50 years of friendship was gone. All because I dared to disagree with her "Blue Anon" beliefs. In no universe, could I ever have imagined this scenario. :( I'm sure you feel the same way about your cousin. Praying for you & your whole family and for healing across this splintered nation.

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As strange as it sounds, such people are "enchanted" into a cult mindset. Though I loved the article and felt it expressed the concept admirably, I have come to terms with this best by seeing such people as not stupid, but part of a cult brought into being through the propaganda of MSM, multiplied by the force of social media.

One can't help or reach someone while they're part of that cult, as they will rationalize the most perverse acts as a sign of self-virtue. The best thing IMO that can be done with a cultist is to keep them out of your life, and if they become a threat, eliminate them before their leaders tell them to eliminate you.

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Agree 💯% with you, Eye-of-Agamotto. On the other hand, there is an issue of semantics here. It seems to me that what you are calling "enchanted into a cult", the author calls "stupidity". They are probably the same...

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Ivan Iriarte ---- People are underestimating just how stupid a LOT of people actually are----Be upright and start telling the truth

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Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023

Agree with you that people understimate stupidity. Do not appreciate you telling me to be upright and tell the truth. You are implying that I am not, which I don't see why you think so.

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"Never attribute to malice aforethought what can be attributed to stupidity." I don't know who said it, but the point is well made.

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There are lots of stupid people in the world that are not also brainwashed into Mass Psychosis!

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I wrote what I hope is a helpful article on the issue of stupidity, called "Coping with Disagreement and Being Wrong", and another on the evolutionary reason for our stupidity in these circumstances, called "Why People are so Stupid".

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/why-people-are-so-stupid

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I recently watched this. A first-hand account of someone leaving “the cult “.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uVSgVlZjk8c&feature=shares

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interesting. This young woman, Keri Smith, has become self aware.

". . . trying to find the Cain in myself." around 46 minutes into it. She finally realized after years of zealous belief in the social justice "cult" that that is not HER. Good for her.

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Very worthwhile watch - it's a cult! Helps me understand the rabidness of the social justice warriors.

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👍

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Yes. Your metaphor reminds me of the Scientology cult.

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I never cease to be amazed at the power of this situation to alienate people and terminate decades old relationships. It is really powerful stuff we are fighting.

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The old Soviet rot has arrived to separate us. Divide & conquer.

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It is powerful stuff ,because the bottom line is often life or death .It is really tragic if husband and wife have strong opposite opinions in matters of benefit or harm in regard of the constant urging to get injected wear masks and other voodoo frankenstein health non care .

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Please see my article "Coping with Disagreement and Being Wrong.

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

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Heh heh heh: glad you like it!

J

P.S. What a great name! S.C.H.

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Hi Sedgwick,

This has to be the nicest comment one could hope for! Please could you do me the great favour of copying your remark and pasting it as a comment on the article itself?

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

Kind regards,

Jonathan

PS Maybe there are other articles there you might like? Subscribe?

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If you believe in God and Satan it all could seem very Satanic, couldn't it?

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exactly. You inferred directly. A mind meld!

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Thank you, Catie. You really brightened my spirits. It’s been rough. It’s a funny story or rather, it might be in a while, but right now, it’s painful. Much love to you. I am really sorry about your friendship of 50 years. What is wrong with people??

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Ego, ignorance, arrogance and stupidity seem to be the order of the day. My two best childhood friends were not cool with me trying to save them from the death and disability shots. One told me "Shut up, Myriam! I believe in vaccines." She is grossly overweight, has trouble walking and has never taken care of her health, watches lots of TV, eats junk and drinks. The other told me to listen to Fauci and put on the damn mask, on my facebook page. I unfriended her. I've studied and practiced Holistic Health for 44 years, starting with myself, in order to heal from big Pharma and Conventional Medicine harms as a child and teen. 50 year friendships, gone or irrevocably damaged.

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I’m very sorry for all that pain you’ve had to see and feel. It’s a helpless feeling, at least for me. You try and try and it’s as if you are all alone in a vast void, spinning, crying out, and no one hears you. At least we have like-minded voices here, Myriam. Best of luck to you. Cheers to your good health.

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Great posts here! All of you tried and God bless you paid the consequences. It`s never too late to get rid of stupid friends and family. I never tried to dissuade anybody just watched the worm turn. What this whole fiasco has done is expose the stupid in our lives. Brilliant German doctor he was. I think we all had some divine intervention even intuition or we just smelled a rat ie fauci! Cheers everybody and good for you

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I thank my God-given intuition and watching/listening to the "Disinformation Dozen" as Biden called them, some who were already mentors of mine, and some of the only people I would trust with mine or my children's lives. I knew they were telling the truth. They have a rare level of high integrity and transparency. They remind me of my grandmothers.

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Thank you, John. May your health continue to be good and thank you for being a kind voice of support. You are right. It’s better these people are not in our lives. They really don’t need to be.

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Thank you, Mel. It was not painful, it was infuriating! LOL! I've known about the dangers of all vaccines for 30 years and raised my children holistically.

I am still friends with the first one. We just don't talk about it anymore, I have somewhat outgrown the friendship because we no longer have much of anything in common, but she views all my instagram stories, so I hope she finally realizes what is taking place. I post a great deal, including lots of the Substack headings. I am sure her firstborn is vaccine injured. Being born via C-section and not being breastfed were two other strikes against the poor boy, now a young man. Her now adult children also took the shots. I hope her only daughter is able to conceive if she decides to. Her son tested positive for Covid for 3 months!

Best wishes to you as well, Mel. Cheers to your good health!

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I also unfriended someone when she commented on MY post on MY page and said, "just wear the mask!" We weren't close friends, so I didn't hesitate to remove her.

Today at church I young woman walked in who had unfriended me in 2021 because I criticized Biden. We talked a bit and she seemed okay with it, but we didn't discuss her unfriending of me.

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I forget where I came across a compilation of various personalities Especially Fauci insisting on facts and in later shots contradicting themselves. If you prize your friendship, post that on her facebook and pray. And when you pray, ask because if you do not ask, the answer is invariably no.

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I wish I knew. I can't imagine letting a belief or ideology get in the way of a relationship. Ideas change. Beliefs change. Relationships are supposed to be the stable part of life, all that really matters. How can they just throw that away? Much love to you, as well. This has been a rough three years. :(

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I think it’s normal to outgrow relationships we no longer align with. We were able to experience a lot of people’s true colors during Covid. I have no regrets. I was trying my hardest to protect my friends, family, neighbors and colleagues from the lying medical community and administration and several turned on me for that.

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Me and my wife had a long term friendship with a woman ,who lives alone here in the same city of Vancouver. After the start of the virus terror ,we talked on the phone and one day I asked her that I would like to visit her ,together with my wife .She said you can only come inside my apartment if you wear a mask . She knows I hate masks ,because masks are only harmful with zero benefit .So I said ,you just exchanged friendship with a mask and I hope the trade was worth it for you .

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Mel ---- Awake people underestimate just how mentally disturbed a LOT of people actually are

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Let what comes stay, let what goes leave, or something like that.

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My latest cat is one I rescued from a market. It was an abandoned kitten - just able to hobble a few yards. If I let her be, she would not survive the night - either run over by cars or killed by rats. The bond is just there. Unmistakable even through her adolescent phase where she would turn her head away as I carried her when before this, we would just look deep into each others eyes. I do not cage her. She is free to leave anytime she wants. I know exactly what that feels like.

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I like this- very zen.

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Let come what comes, let go what goes. See what remains.

~ Ramana Maharshi

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I blame social media almost exclusively. Ppl aren't able to talk one on one with each other anymore. I wish cell phones and the internet could be turned off for 24 hours every week. It'd get ppl talking again. Instead, it's likes and clicks and ditto that really mean "I never think"

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Feb 24, 2023·edited Feb 25, 2023

Just wow. Going back to 2012 election when I last had a FB acct. My page was not at all personal just political and I posted numerous truthful articles about our soon to be pres. My SIL posted a random comment that she was tired of all the political postings. Does she mean me? I wasn't sure so I sent a quick msg that I was posting news from alternative sources that ppl may not see. If that bothered her she could unfriend. Never heard from her again.

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Wow and that’s your SIL? I tell ya, these tiny, meltie little snowflakes are dancing too close to the flame. Singe ‘em and go on with life, I suppose.

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Catie ---No loss, this fake pandemic showed a lot of people's true colors----- They were dumb before, but you simply didn't notice because they were your 'friend' You don't need stupid people in your life, including family. The highest aspiration should be to make yourself a better man/woman and EVERYTHING is secondary to this. It is better to be alone than to keep bad company

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Lots of us have gone through the same experience: I with both very long-time friends, and family. They are heavily brainwashed and propagandized, Nazi Germany-style. They would turn us over to them if this were WWII. You can't help those people. They are too far gone into the Mass Formation Hypnosis/Psychosis.

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We are all so divided...it's hard to be around people who are blind to the destruction going on.

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I have a sign on my door, 'No vaccinated people allowed."

Try it. It is a hoot!

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I did something similar ,when a telephone repair man came to my door masked and prepared to enter .I told him he can only come in if he takes off that mask .He remarked that it is his companies policy .I said in my hose I make the policy ,not his company .So he took his bag and left . No regrets

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Geez Bull Dog. that would include me.

Hey, don't forget SOME of us woke up.

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I have a nice porch.

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You actually have that sign on your door?

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Yes, I do. I had family and friends who treated me badly for not vaxxing. My turn.

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I just post things they read. That's how I return the favor. I knew the people speaking out were telling the truth since 2020 and I have not stopped speaking out since then. Many are going to be blindsided by what's coming and they will not be prepared. Things are going to get much worse, is what I have read, and it is happening.

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Glad you woke up!!

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. . . me too!

kind of hard-headed.

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I am too ;) But I knew there were many things wrong with the measures for our safety and health. Lots of red flags and inconsistencies, since mid-2020.

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:) That would include most of my family, friends, neighbors, yoga teachers/mentors and colleagues as well as Functional Nutrition colleagues and mentors! A sad state of affairs!

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Luckily I was able to find a naturopathic Dr who is unjabbed, and she is absolutely gobsmacked that so many of her colleagues w/in the holistic community fell for the scam.

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Worst part is, I am now unable to find a massage therapist who is NOT vaxxed.

I’ll not have someone who is vaxxed breathing all over me and putting hands (shedding, anyone???) on my skin. I’ve already had a shedding injury, so definitely don’t want any more problems.

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Well I believe in Shedding, so that's a good idea. My vaxed neighbor dropped dead in her back yard....a few weeks later her husband, unvaxed, ended up in the hospital with C...and of course they tried to kill him...we think he got it by shedding.

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Perfect

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Feb 24, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

You cannot "reach" people like that. I have the exact same situation going on with my brother and his family. They perfectly fit into this definition of "Stupid"! And also "Mass Formation Psychosis". Unfortunately, this human tendency towards Blindness could be the downfall of the entire human race, as this sort of idiocy is potentially propelling us into a suicidal all-out nuclear war with Russia! The evil people who run this planet seem hell-bent on mass genocide of billions of people. And too many of the Stupid "masses" are mindlessly going along with it!

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The "masses" are essentially clueless and don't recognize their own conditioning.

NOTHING will change fundamentally, until we fundamentally change the way we perceive and treat children. Until then, we will continue to see childhood adversity re-enacted upon EVERY aspect of society.

Furthermore, #childhood #adversity more often than not consists of imposing utterly INSANE societal standards of "normalcy" on children, to which they MUST conform, in order to survive, at a time when they are too young to understand and reject the madness being imposed on them.

The "masses" are essentially clueless and unaware of their own conditioning...

***

Aware Parenting website:

"It is paradoxical, yet true:

Children are the most

in need of loving attention,

when they act the least deserving of it."

~ Aletha Solter

www.awareparenting.com

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Slightly different topic ~ am in Ma. and the amount of overnight spraying ~ 30 days / perhaps three days w/sun is huge. I drop this observation whenever possible and am met with dim looks and an occasional murmur of ‘climate change.’ The masses are beyond stupid.

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Oddly it's the masses that keep things going.

Society needs clueless consumers, cannon fodder and a supply of lemmings to support the politicians.

And the few like you and McCullough, Marik, Kory and all the other sensible people that hold it together.

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You think children need no adversity? I think a small amount is what they DO need.

And taught to handle it on their own as often as possible.

Then they are not scared of everything in life.

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Yuup

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Yes, this was my immediate reaction: how similar the experience of Desmet's "mass formation" was , in Nazi Germany all that time ago.

Nevertheless, I think it is good for us to reaslise just how much more stupid we ALL are than we think.

Please read my thoughts on the subject in "Coping with Disagreement and Being Wrong"

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

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Calling you a "classic narcissistic" is absolutely typical of their own narcissism, and proves one of the the traits of Classic Narcissism is Projection.

I've had 54 years of it.

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Feb 24, 2023·edited Feb 24, 2023

Interesting.

I was raised by a mother that was diagnosed with multi personality disorder in the 80s, generally referred to as a psychopath now...the ultimate narcissist.

What I find most pecular is the WEF is acting as if the fourth industrial revolution exists...robots are in mass taking over and thus mass random killing of humans is fine as everything they need will be done by robots.

This is normal for a Psychopath, they can not tell the difference between something that exists and something they desire the most.

My current thinking is the Globalists will kill billions, then themselves as no one depends on complex social structures than Klaus and the Ketchup man, etc

Those that outlive this unbelievable drama will be the winners. Not the Globalists Psychopaths.

Jmo

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I've thought the same thing. The Elites whole grand existence depends on the billions of people who make and deliver the millions of products in existence that enrich all of our lives. When they are down to some farmers and slaves, it will be an existence like the monarchs had thousands of years ago. Pretty grim overall.

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This whole thing is set to self destruct. The biggest challenge is outlasting the loss of our institutions and whatever crappy new system the globalists set up. They don't have what it takes to Build Back Better. Like the Tower of Babel this will never see full completion. Babylon will fall.

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They already write articles saying "we are THIS close to a perfect world if God doesnt confuse the languages again or someting."

Ive read articles of such.

Idk where they get the idea things are almost perfect.

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Yes, I thought about telling him he was projecting, but I did not want to raise the level of vitriol he was exhibiting, so I decided against it. But it is classic projection. I did tell him, “Disagreement is not the same thing as an attack” because he kept saying I’d attacked and lectured him by disagreeing. All I did was state my opinion, but he doesn’t want to hear an opinion that differs from his. When he called me a narcissist, I said, “I won’t name call, but narcissists don’t bring you soup when you’re sick, give you their HCQ and ivm when you have Covid, listen to all your philosophical and metaphysical beliefs with a non-judgmental mind and make sure you know you are loved.”

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A typical left wing Democrat- these are teaching the kids and running the government

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"but I did not want to raise the level of vitriol he was exhibiting"

It would be worth it to see the foaming at the mouth, apoplectic, incoherent, yet impotent rage.

Then smile and say "bye".

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Don’t think I didn’t consider it…. ;) Sometimes, I try to rise above the ugly fray. I know one thing, if he ever does decide to talk to me again, I won’t self-censor to assuage his “wittle feeeelings.”

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You sound like an emotionally well developed individual to me! Bravo!

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Thank you, Goeff. I try my best. That’s all we can do.

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You also sound like a victim. Are you conditioned to this? I was for 30 years.

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Me too

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At my place of work we have a saying that we use on difficult people that seem unreasonable. "You can't fix stupid". That phrase seems to clear the air so we can move on to a better place.

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I gave a T-shirt to a friend which read;

"I am an electrician and I can fix 'stupid'

But it is going to hurt."

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That is an awesome quote.

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Of course electrocute him!

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" I am an electrician and I can fix 'stupid' but it is going to be expensive"

. . . is the way I have heard it!

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👍

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Love it. Will buy a t shirt

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The social aspect lives large with me.

"None of us is as stupid as all of us."

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I’m so sorry to hear how your friend has treated you. I have also lost what people I thought were friends over this. The article about stupidity helps me understand. I believe you will find as I have found those lost “friends” and family were never real friends and eventually you won’t miss them. I hope you do have some real friends who aren’t stupid. Stick with them. You aren’t alone.

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If it was a friend it might be a bit more understandable and easier to take, but it was my father.

It was probably always coming, to be honest, Covid was the final straw,

but there comes a time when you have to get up from the table where you are being fed poison, for your own health and sanity.

I wish him well on his path.

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Excellent words.

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I wrote an article called "Coping with Disagreement (and Being Wrong)". I hope it helps.

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

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I told my two older bros (60 and 62. I am 57) something similar when they asked me to not "talk politics all the time". Then I understood, they were the ones who were deeply and dogmatically politized in their Worldview and life in such a way they were finding that almost every topic runs into uncomfortable truths contrary to their own politicization. And in response they were trying to gaslight me and shut me up. I eventually told them, that for me truth and search for truth is more important than our family relationships. That put them on notice. And they have now retreated and gone silent.

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Good job Nick let em go toxic brothers

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Your relationships are important, and if you are in a position to be able to help them sometime in the future, that is worth working at, as long as you can proceed without damage to yourself. Be confident in your grasp, and don't feel threatened by their lack of understanding.

I love my sister, but she and her husband are completely hooked on all the mainstream media narrative. But I recognise that a frontal assault is only going to produce resistance in the opposite direction.

Instead, I talk with them about slightly related topics, but which are sufficiently peripheral for them not to have programmed responses to, and work at keeping a good relationship with her. You cannot reason people out of a position that they got into from emotion and not reason.

There's no reason not to be kind and available, if you're up for it. It's all any of us can do, ultimately, in most circumstances.

I wrote an article on this, which may be of some help: "Coping with Disagreement (and Being Wrong)".

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

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I’m a firm supporter of private property rights. However, when a company like Twitter enjoys special protections from the government, like protection from liability and suit, than that company effectively becomes a “public square” where all content, except that which promotes illegalities, should be allowed.

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and how many "private companies" have branch FBI offices within their organizations directing censorship?

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The FBI needs to be disbanded. Our country managed to get along for many years without it. Get rid of the CIA and NSA too.

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I blame the Israelites. They started this. 1st Samuel 8:10-18 .

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Exactly and I told him this a while back. The government can’t collude with a private corporation to censor its citizens- it does not comport with our cherished 1st Amendment for government to collude so. That good argument did not sway him one little bit. He got red in the face, pounded his fist on the table and said, “How many times do I have to tell you that PRIVATE companies can do WHATEVER they want??” He was born in 1955… whatever happened to “Question Authority”?

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Not only Twitter, but all corporations, especially the mammoth ones, get government-granted special favors from protection to subsidies and bailouts.

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When Corporations Rule the World

~ by David C. Korten

“I seldom used the term capitalism in the original edition of When Corporations Rule the World.

The casual reader might therefore miss that it is a book about the structure and dynamics of capitalism stripped of its relentlessly promoted PR façade as the global champion of human liberty, democracy, and the market economy.

In its literal meaning capitalism means rule by capital, more specifically rule by the owners of capital for their exclusive private benefit—or simply rule by money.

There are more idealized definitions of capitalism, but I refer to the real capitalism—the kind we are living with.

This capitalism is grounded in an elitist ideology of individualism supported by an institutional system devoted to the concentration and abuse of wealth for the exclusive benefit of a private ruling oligarchy. It is the capitalism that claims to champion democracy and markets even as it destroys them. The capitalism that claims to bring universal prosperity even while denying it to all but its most favored servants. The capitalism that destroys life to make money and organizes as a suicide economy that destroys the foundations of its own existence—and ours.

...

In traditional pre-money gift economies, the relationships that bind the community into a functioning unit are defined primarily by mutual caring and commitment. In a monetized market economy these relationships are defined primarily, even exclusively, by money at the expense of the mutual caring and commitment essential to individual happiness and healthy social function.

...

In a gift economy our survival and well-being depend on the cultivation and exercise of our capacity for love and our sense of responsibility to and for the community of which we are a part. In the monetized market economy our survival and well-being depend on money—and therefore the institutions that control our access to money.

...

In the fully developed capitalist economy, this means we are reduced to dependence for our basic means of living on the corporations that the oligarchs create to leverage their own financial power with the savings of others in order to acquire and manage assets far beyond their own individual means. Programmed by its internal structures to value only money in service to the demands of distant and impersonal financial markets for ever-greater profits, the corporation behaves like a money-seeking robot systematically expropriating and destroying the real wealth of living communities to make money—phantom-wealth accounting tokens—unrelated to anything of real value.”

https://a.co/1nt9FoM

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A lot of good stuff there. Thanks.

Corporations exist to socialize risk while privatizing profits. Governments are formed to protect corporate interests at the expense of the rest of us. In the US they are now completely unbridled.

There shoiuld be no mystery as to why the Dude took a lash to the money changers and upset their tables.

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I think "plutocracy" or "fascism" apply better to what is described here - the "rule by" part.

Capitalism is more an economic viewpoint involving a free market.

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Except that is Crony capitalism. Not pure capitalism.

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Cognitive dissonance doesn't even begin to cover this syndrome. We need a stronger, more descriptive term for it. It's completely alien to me. As I've told people in the past, if you keep looking for the pods you will find them, they're here somewhere.

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Something like, "blinded by a cult driven by a desire for evil and death". Dont think there is a word.

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/heres-that-thing-youre-feeling

No cigar but these people are the ones to ask apart from Alexa and Siri.

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These are great! Thank you.

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I like stupid.

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Cognitive dissonance is when you believe two things that are mutually exclusive, and something happens which makes you aware of both of your beliefs simultaneously.

Stupidity; "mass formation"; mass hypnosis; cult formation; brain-washing. These are all terms which describe different aspects or viewpoints of this situation.

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Look up Mattias Desmet.

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I was pretty much brought up that way, my mother taking pride in being an independent thinker. I have also always been a voracious reader since childhood. Always interested in psychology.

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Possibly the most seminal piece of advice I ever received was on the way to school. It was "When a teacher tells you something, you should think "Does that seem right to me?"".

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That can apply to alot of situations. Good advice!

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This is classic cancel culture. It’s cancel, cancel cancel if anyone disagrees with their opinion or expresses their own beliefs. My aunt did that to me.....she posted there’s too many Christian’s on here and too many conservatives. I stopped following her....I don’t care really about what she thinks.....she was a professor at Boston...which should tell you a lot!

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Oh, it speaks volumes, doesn’t it? What was the quote, “Some things are so stupid, only the smartest would ever believe them”- or something like that!

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Cancel her! She is toxic stupid

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You pretty much got it all laid out in a nutshell there. I had to chuckle, as I too experienced the “not allowed to talk about the elephant in the room” lecture.

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Yeah, there’s a lot of dead elephants piling up in rooms lately too! Cheers to you and may your life be even better to rid yourself of folks who treat you badly.

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The problem is there almost nothing to talk about that is not impacted by the present agenda. (Even the weather). Why bother?

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👍😟

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There is a certain irony in the fact I disagree with Dore on most everything ideological, but find him far more interesting, forthright and honest than the entirety of the Dem Cult of Death and the GOP Cult of Dolts. At least he doesn’t bow down or make excuses for the party he once fully supported.And he’s passionate and funny.

I can’t speak to members of my family either. Apparently, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist and supporter of fascist White Supremacists, Nazis, extremist, book banning fundamentalist Christian Nationalists and a Putin shill.

BTW, I’m Jewish, female, pro-choice within sane parameters, pro-life personally for reasons unrelated to religion, do not care who consenting adults prefer as partners but nobody has the right to indoctrinate children.

The left is tyrannical, hateful, anti-American and despises humanity. They have become a Cult of Death reminiscent of Alex DeLarge and the Droogs, the Island of Dr Moreau, Mao, Stalin,Castro,Pinochet, Mugabe, Mussolini, Ceaucescu,Idi Amin, Khomeini, Abbas, Farrakhan, Animal Farm, Jim Jones, Hirohito, Weather Underground, Hitler,Angela Davis, Symbionese Liberation Army, Goebbels, the Milgrim Experiment,Rwanda,Darfur and the Roman Empire.

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I'm truly sorry to hear of your problems with your family.

Your relationships are important, and if you are in a position to be able to help them sometime in the future, that is worth working at, as long as you can proceed without damage to yourself. Be confident in your grasp, and don't feel threatened by their lack of understanding.

I love my sister, but she and her husband are completely hooked on all the mainstream media narrative. But I recognise that a frontal assault is only going to produce resistance in the opposite direction.

Instead, I talk with them about slightly related topics, but which are sufficiently peripheral for them not to have programmed responses to, and work at keeping a good relationship with her. You cannot reason people out of a position that they got into from emotion and not reason.

There's no reason not to be kind and available, if you're up for it. It's all any of us can do, ultimately, in most circumstances.

I wrote an article on this, which may be of some help: "Coping with Disagreement (and Being Wrong)".

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

... and I suspect you'll be interested in the following, despite its provocative title!

"Why You Should Stop Using the Concepts Left- and Right-wing"

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/why-you-should-stop-using-the-concepts-a49

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Couldn’t agree with you more. Particularly the Left-Wing/Right-Wing paradigm. I have no love for either “Wing”. The preconceived notion that we must be one or the other is not only divisive, but insulting. Tantamount to having only the choice between Michelangelo or Pollock. Renoir, Chagall , Dali’, Modigliani be damned! Never the lot of them cherish Thomas Kinkade or Etch-A-Sketch.

Collectivism has gutted common sense, creativity,independent thought and independent voices.

Partisan politics didn’t affect my skepticism of Covid, or the “ vaccines” . .History and the No longer veiled corruption of both parties, the bureaucracy, technocracy and the darkness weeping the globe did. My family should have known better. They should have at least attempted to research outside the narrative. That is what was most disappointing and disheartening.

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Thanks for your thoughtful and well expressed response.

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Even though rife with misspellings. “ Auto-Correct”. An oxymoron.

Thank you, Jonathan. Your exceedingly thoughtful, insightful and kind reply is much appreciated. I’m so angry and frustrated that it’s difficult expressing my thoughts contextually. Combined with the lack of affect often associated with social media, ramblings are easy to misconstrue. I’ve lost all faith in government and most faith in our citizenry. But you and a growing number of refuseniks are a beacon of hope.

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Wow! That's nice. Thanks.

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Your cousin is the Classic moron know it all .

He knows nothing .

Let him walk - the exercise will do him good .

The substack author quotes “ The Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom “ and I believe this to be true . We all must be realistic- there is little hood for the Blue Anon’s of the world .

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He is indeed a know-it-all. Always has a lecture for others, but never once looks in his own mirror and sees the reality and irony of his own inanity.

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wow. Great story. Love the ending where you save the health of the same relative who desires your censure and absence in his life. What irony.

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It really was ironic, wasn’t it? And I imagine if any new variant comes along that really takes him down, he might reconsider a call to me for help. I am a retired NP and have assisted close to 40 people, mostly older folks, with early treatment, especially in the Delta wave which was a beast. And if he calls and tells me he is sick, I don’t really think I could turn him down for help once again. But I’ve decided he did me an inadvertent favor by shunning me for expressing an opinion. None of us need people like this in our lives. Cheers, pretty-red. I wish you good health!

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back at ya' my friend!

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I truly believe it all starts with fear. Half the personalities of the human race are a number 5 on the enneagram scale and their biggest issue is being manipulated by fear. Never forget how they burned little girls alive terrified they were witches in Salem. Stupid used to mean mentally slower or not capable of easy logical connective reasoning. The Bible calls people fools…capable but unwilling. The reason why is irrelevant. But the article is true. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample them underfoot and try to destroy you. Best to keep your mouth shut around them or leave them to themselves.

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Totally agree. If everyone would have just said no from the beginning, we would not even be here with all these problems. Fear is, IMO, best controlled by being a strong Christian and, IMO, the lack of Christians, and other faiths, is our downfall here. Within the vacuum of spirituality in our society, evil finds easy marks to destroy.

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I fear manipulation! My early experience taught me that manipulators will take your life energy for their benefit. The “best” at it can be almost subliminal about it, but it triggers a deep anxiety in me nonetheless. It’s temporarily uncomfortable but, as is a piercing fire alarm, it’s been a life saver.

It has worked out well for me in the end

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I agree and have chosen to never mention “Covid or politics” again around him…. But ONLY because I’ve chosen not ever to be around him again! Lol. Really, people like this are not worth the trouble it takes to put on the kid gloves around them. Thanks for the kind advice for “leaving them to themselves.” That’s my plan!

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Basically just a summary of Romans 1:28 "...God gave them over to a depraved mind...." It was true then, its true now.

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Joe Zoborowski ---- We have all these problems in the world because we attorned from God's laws and made the state/government our new daddy. Most people of the world can't comprehend what's been done to them. When you obey immoral or unjust 'laws' you are NOT doing the will of God. Knowingly or unknowingly people throughout the world have acted in the capacity of a fictional 'person' their whole life and all these codes/statutes/ regulations etc only apply to persons. The question is, are you a man/woman, or a fictional being. Hate to break the bad news to some of you on here, Government/politics/voting NEVER worked and never WILL WORK, and you can only be truly wise when you realize this-----Your conditioning is VERY DEEP

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Thank you for this! Also, for those interested, the biography of Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas is excellent.

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Eric Metaxas assured us that God would save America in the 2020 election. If God gave America Joe Biden instead of Donald Trump then She is not very nice.

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Maybe God DID save us, by revealing just how evil and stupid these people and our government/bureaucracy is. By revealing just how evil Hollywood and our media, Big Pharma is. And how easily people and corporations can be bought/sold for ‘thirty pieces of silver’.

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Ha, ha! I know nothing about him except as author of this book.

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Not aware of this, but obviously missed that prediction!.

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Excellent book, Worth a read.

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Thanks for this! Had not seen.

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I feel this is thank you day. So THANK YOU Dr. McCullough for standing!!!! I know it wasn't easy. We got some small victories now and I hope it continues. The world needs more people like you.

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And John Leake!

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I have a very intelligent friend who loves Biden. He is a very social creature, he believes, like unshakeable belief, that everyone that does not support the left is racist.

It is something that I have struggled with, how could a person be so smart and stupid.

Thank you for this post, I am relieved of a great suffering.

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'Ol Ben had a take on that.

Ben Franklin, at the tender age of 16 and with two years of formal schooling under his hat wrote this. I believe he was referring to Hawvawd.

“I reflected in my Mind on the extream Folly of those Parents, who, blind to their Childrens Dulness, and insensible of the Solidity of their Skulls, because they think their Purses can afford it, will needs send them to the Temple of Learning, where, for want of a suitable Genius, they learn little more than how to carry themselves handsomely, and enter a Room genteely, (which might as well be acquir’d at a Dancing-School,) and from whence they return, after Abundance of Trouble and Charge, as great Blockheads as ever, only more proud and self-conceited.”

Silence Dogood

Silence Dogood, No. 4

Printed in The New-England Courant, May 14, 1722.

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Bull Dog ----Sorry, but you give these people too much credit. Just because they have a good memory and can rattle off propaganda/programming and false history doesn't make them smart. I have been involved in law/freedom and liberty issues for 25 + years and when I'm done with your 'friend', I will have made him look like the idiot that he is

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"...I will have made him look like the idiot that he is..."

That part is easy especially since they reek of idiocy and worse. The difficult part is convincing them of it. I no longer even try; I just leave to to wallow in their own mire.

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He is the type. I know many

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There are many, unfortunately. :(

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Yep. My bestie thinks the same

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''The power of some requires the stupidity of others.'' I guess so the power can be maintained because, iversely, Bonhoeffer also asserts that the exercise of power render some stupid, that is, stupidly obedient.

Similarly, Voltaire wrote, ''Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.'' Same idea!

This phenomenon may reside in the widespread trait of 'social desirability,' or needing to be accepted by others, especially thos in power. In research, social desirability messes up findings because those people report favorable outcomes when there is none, just to please the researchers.

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You're a humanities star. Voltaire knew his Leftist opponents' instincts only all too well.

(In particular, I liked "thos"; I tried "tho" the other day, following Mark Crispin Miller's lead or support.)

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See what you think of my very short piece "Why People are so Stupid".

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/why-people-are-so-stupid

or if you want something meaty try "Coping with Disagrement and Being Wrong".

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and

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