Great work, but 1 point of disagreement. Audio forensics reveal at least 7 shots, with 2 at a distance far greater than the roof where the shooter was located, pointing beyond intentional incompetence to active participation in the attempted assasination, namely, the kid was there to give plausible deniability and take blame, while 1 or 2 additional shooters were to guarantee the job was completed successfully, should the kid miss his target.
Additional professional marksmen would not have missed. Auditory analysis poorly controlled for iphone sensor location relative to rifle and different acoustic quality of single shots vs rapid bursts.
At least 2 different shooters were audible to me the first time I heard 3 loud shots, a bunch of fast, quiet shots, then one loud shot at the end.
The fast, quiet shots may well have come from inside that open second story window, where nobody knows if anybody was at that moment, and which has not been tested for nitrate (gunpowder) residues, as far as we know.
Like Day, in thread above, with just my old ears the first 3 sound a lot different from the follow on, so there is that.
And we're back to this view that all good shots could always make that shot. I dont buy that logic to rule out a second shooter. Shit happens. And if one shooter, young Crook, what black cabal inside job would lean on a glasses wearing 20 year old shooting irons at 140m? Now that is no more proof of a second shooter, than our host's assertion/suggestion that if a second shooter the shot would have been made.
Here's a thought, ponder on JFK. It is easily plausible that shots came from 3 places and only the last final backup shooter finally made the shot. I can imagine a bunch of guys all wonderful shots all saying dont worry I can do it. And it may have come down to the last shooter regardless. And Trump moved his head.
There were at least three other people injured and/or killed at the event. Were all shots coming from the same direction? There is a video, (maybe more), showing a possible "line of fire" that hit at least two of the other injured attendees. I wouldn't dismiss other shooters just yet... https://youtu.be/0hKuo2qW6uE?si=sBZIMmlKc7sew88I
It could be that the add'l marksmen wanted to miss--following orders but did not personally want to kill the president. The rank and file of the SS, FBI, et al, don't always share the wicked designs of their superiors, even if they appear to do so. Also, it could be the shots of the add'l marksmen followed the initial shots of Crooks and they no longer had a clear shot, as the 2 longer range shots followed the initial 5 shots. Who knows, many possible explanations, but the forensic recording on the link I posted below appears quite convincing.
You mean its Dan's opinion right? We are missing so much information everything remains on the table.
To there was no earshot and it was a Trump plan, to it was incompetence and serendipity and an actual lone gunman, to it was 'allowed to happen', to Crook was a patsy and a second shooter. All remain on the table. I know Dan B loves to be certain about stuff, but holes in our 'data' are monstrously large and nothing is proven at this point.
Wray said 8 casings on the roof with Crooks? He acknowledges 8 shots? But the forensics appear to indicate he is lying. Wray, of course, can be trusted, given the Russia Hoax, J6, Mar-a-Lago, locking up of grandmas protesting abortion, designating concerned parents as terrorists, etc., etc. And Crooks managed 8 shots before the sniper shot him, with the sound footprints indicating different locations and different guns? And note that Trump's microphone remained on, and forensics based on that recording are revealing, given they record both the bullet "snap" and the "pop" of the rifles, providing the distance of multiple locations and shooters.
Now we are hearing from about fake videos. How do you know this? Its a bold claim.
Videos I listened to were the ones that escaped on the day.
However there are a ton of recordings, we will hear them by and by. And some testimony about 8 casings is interesting, suggestive, and may also have similarity to the undeformed bullet found on JFKs gurney, which is subject to a lot of uncertainty, it may have been a bold faced lie? Casings and that magic bullet both?
Its possible that this could simultaneously be intentional by the 'deep state' AND that they put their hopes and dreams in a glasses wearing 20 year old jacked with adrenaline shooting irons on a 10 year old AR at 140m. Its POSSIBLE.
If that is the case we should rejoice, our deep state opponents have exposed GROSS incompetence to rely on such. Or there was no conspiracy at all, which remains in my view at least an outside, unlikely but possible scenario. The sum of the oversights, and their remarkable confluence to wreck internal comms and have that building roof unobserved, well those are remarkable coincidences aligned with young Crook and his explosives and drones and zero online anything. Its POSSIBLE.
Perhaps the only notable statement from Ms. Cheatle was her reference to the recently deceased representative Ms. Sheila Jackson Lee:
"I would be remiss if I did not also extend my condolences on the passing of your colleague, congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. Ms. Jackson Lee was always engaged in the oversight of the Secret Services and her passing is a great loss to this body."
Those who think that men can get pregnant will appreciate the magnanimity of Ms. Cheatle's condolences. Everyone else will recognize the statement for the chilling threat that it was: don't rock the boat for us; we have six ways from Sunday to get back at you.
As each day goes by, it becomes more obvious this was an inside job perpetrated by agencies and officials of our own government. The shooter was allowed to be where he was, set up by the conspirators to take the shot, and then eliminated, a la Lee Harvey Oswald.
Put at risk? He was SHOT IN THE HEAD! I agree, these people should have been charged with criminal negligence more than a week ago. We cannot continue to live like this.
John, with regard to your travel from Amsterdam, all you needed to avoid overzealous security was an intelligence agency handler. From Wikipedia:
"Passengers Kurt and Lori Haskell told The Detroit News that prior to boarding the plane they witnessed a "smartly dressed man" possibly of Indian descent, around 50 years old, and who spoke "in an American accent similar to my own" helping a passenger they identified as Abdulmutallab onto the plane without a passport."
Thanks for that, didn't remember the details like you did but I knew the guy was helped on the plain with no passport. How did they manage to get through the isrtaeli security that was in charge?
Racially profiling was a big thing- don’t stop the guy who has dark skin- blah blah blah- look where we are now:( also level of let the violence happen then clean it up- as we saw with Trump situation. The world has gone mad- nothing we can do- the crazies have taken over and somehow convinced people to follow along. Zombies- we are living among zombies
Misdirection bungling, catastrophic incompetence in absence of other influences, is not the simpler solution to this event. The extreme degree of lack of critical thinking, other worldly coincidences, total failures at all levels in every area, by almost everyone are not realistically feasible or possible. Is there a ballistic report out yet to prove if all the bullets who struck the four people are from the same firearm and was it the assassins firearm?
Factionalism in government: here we see a patsy who was killed by the good hard-working SS team, but the guy on the watertower had the cleanest point of view. Did he take a shot at the SS team on the red barns? Sure looks like they jumped back and reset the tripod in great surprise. I think they were taking supressive fire from the tower to prevent them shooting Crooks. Did they then respond and knock that shooter off the tower. His team on the ground (white van) picked him up and skedaddled. That left a local cop to shut down Crooks, but I'm also attracted to the theory of a bad actor in that second story room taking the first three shots. We need a timed analysis of the three bystander injuries with recovery of the bullets from the fireman and maybe others. I think the SS team was new, had elements that were not SS and therefore somewhat incompetent, but there was a second team inserted into the SS team by another agency.
This is my personal current theory. First three disciplined spaced shots were NOT Crook, the follow on flurry was Crook mixed possibly with others.
I personally lean to a second shooter, the primary really, who f'd up. Trump moved his head. Sometimes momentous events turn on the tiniest of margins......
My conclusion is that this was a deliberate WEF/Deep State attempt to kill Donald Trump. It reveals their desperation, and points to a looming potential failure of their fantasies to rule the world.
I watched the congressman's brief tour of the overwatch building and on the roof. Looking out the overwatch second floor window you can see the whole roof. So that is like wild information. It then seems like the likely spot for a second shooter? EDIT because if there were honest brokers on that second floor they would obviously shoot Crook or at least fire some rounds to awake everyone and distract Crook, at the LEAST.
We got a huge contrast in MSM interest. Whereas as someone pointed out for young Ritterhaus (sic) we got non stop daily investigations and a flow of information, on this whole thing, remarkably incurious.
I guess its up to X/Twitter bitchute rumble etc to investigate and provide timely info. MSM just ho hum the most seminal event in the last 20 years and 'look theres a Biden squirrel.....'
Ruthless Bungling is certainly a good term for it. How can anyone botch an underwear bomb job?
Of course the botched assassination was far worse with at least 15 people involved in a job that could have been handled by one professional hit man,and three assistants.
David Ike not only got refused entry a few years to Holland but they somehow managed to to ban him from every other European country as well to this day !! Maybe an interview with him might be in order?
They claimed incompetence when 911 happened, too. Baloney.
Awwww, c'mon man!! Valedictorians with box-cutters!
Great work, but 1 point of disagreement. Audio forensics reveal at least 7 shots, with 2 at a distance far greater than the roof where the shooter was located, pointing beyond intentional incompetence to active participation in the attempted assasination, namely, the kid was there to give plausible deniability and take blame, while 1 or 2 additional shooters were to guarantee the job was completed successfully, should the kid miss his target.
Additional professional marksmen would not have missed. Auditory analysis poorly controlled for iphone sensor location relative to rifle and different acoustic quality of single shots vs rapid bursts.
At least 2 different shooters were audible to me the first time I heard 3 loud shots, a bunch of fast, quiet shots, then one loud shot at the end.
The fast, quiet shots may well have come from inside that open second story window, where nobody knows if anybody was at that moment, and which has not been tested for nitrate (gunpowder) residues, as far as we know.
A congressman gave us a view out that window. Beautiful overwatch on Crook. So I too start to wonder who was up there, doing what exactly.
Exactly. The open window.
Like Day, in thread above, with just my old ears the first 3 sound a lot different from the follow on, so there is that.
And we're back to this view that all good shots could always make that shot. I dont buy that logic to rule out a second shooter. Shit happens. And if one shooter, young Crook, what black cabal inside job would lean on a glasses wearing 20 year old shooting irons at 140m? Now that is no more proof of a second shooter, than our host's assertion/suggestion that if a second shooter the shot would have been made.
Here's a thought, ponder on JFK. It is easily plausible that shots came from 3 places and only the last final backup shooter finally made the shot. I can imagine a bunch of guys all wonderful shots all saying dont worry I can do it. And it may have come down to the last shooter regardless. And Trump moved his head.
See here, pretty convincing: https://rumble.com/v57ke59-new-audio-forensic-analysis-reveals-at-least-three-shooters-at-trump-campai.html
There were at least three other people injured and/or killed at the event. Were all shots coming from the same direction? There is a video, (maybe more), showing a possible "line of fire" that hit at least two of the other injured attendees. I wouldn't dismiss other shooters just yet... https://youtu.be/0hKuo2qW6uE?si=sBZIMmlKc7sew88I
It could be that the add'l marksmen wanted to miss--following orders but did not personally want to kill the president. The rank and file of the SS, FBI, et al, don't always share the wicked designs of their superiors, even if they appear to do so. Also, it could be the shots of the add'l marksmen followed the initial shots of Crooks and they no longer had a clear shot, as the 2 longer range shots followed the initial 5 shots. Who knows, many possible explanations, but the forensic recording on the link I posted below appears quite convincing.
Wrong on this one, John. It happens.
But one did miss.
BS
There is lots of fake videos out there. The audio of other citizen cameras do not match the fake ones. Go find the original video/audio.
Yes there was 3 shooters that day:
1/crooks
2/ sniper 1
3/sniper 2
Crooks was the lone assassin. The snipers each took a shot from different distances.
This is another example of putting false information out there to mislead people.
Dan Bongino confirmed this.
You mean its Dan's opinion right? We are missing so much information everything remains on the table.
To there was no earshot and it was a Trump plan, to it was incompetence and serendipity and an actual lone gunman, to it was 'allowed to happen', to Crook was a patsy and a second shooter. All remain on the table. I know Dan B loves to be certain about stuff, but holes in our 'data' are monstrously large and nothing is proven at this point.
Wray just testified there was 8 casings found with crooks. Listen to the original audio instead of all the fake stuff.
Crooks was enabled to be a crappy assassin. That’s the issue!!! Who enabled him??!! That’s the issue!!!
That is the conspiracy!!! Everyone has been distracted with the wrong issues!!!
He failed now everyone is panicked and putting false info out there. Stop believing their distractions and find the original videos.
Wray said 8 casings on the roof with Crooks? He acknowledges 8 shots? But the forensics appear to indicate he is lying. Wray, of course, can be trusted, given the Russia Hoax, J6, Mar-a-Lago, locking up of grandmas protesting abortion, designating concerned parents as terrorists, etc., etc. And Crooks managed 8 shots before the sniper shot him, with the sound footprints indicating different locations and different guns? And note that Trump's microphone remained on, and forensics based on that recording are revealing, given they record both the bullet "snap" and the "pop" of the rifles, providing the distance of multiple locations and shooters.
Now we are hearing from about fake videos. How do you know this? Its a bold claim.
Videos I listened to were the ones that escaped on the day.
However there are a ton of recordings, we will hear them by and by. And some testimony about 8 casings is interesting, suggestive, and may also have similarity to the undeformed bullet found on JFKs gurney, which is subject to a lot of uncertainty, it may have been a bold faced lie? Casings and that magic bullet both?
FBI probably. I saw something that said Crooks had an FBI email contact of some sort.
Its possible that this could simultaneously be intentional by the 'deep state' AND that they put their hopes and dreams in a glasses wearing 20 year old jacked with adrenaline shooting irons on a 10 year old AR at 140m. Its POSSIBLE.
If that is the case we should rejoice, our deep state opponents have exposed GROSS incompetence to rely on such. Or there was no conspiracy at all, which remains in my view at least an outside, unlikely but possible scenario. The sum of the oversights, and their remarkable confluence to wreck internal comms and have that building roof unobserved, well those are remarkable coincidences aligned with young Crook and his explosives and drones and zero online anything. Its POSSIBLE.
So you got it all figured, 'case closed'? EDIT removed incorrect Bugliosi joke
Do you feel there are any unanswered questions of note, and any possibility at all of multiple shooters and/or inside machinations?
https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/is-civil-war-20-coming-to-the-usa
Alex Krainer:
Perhaps the only notable statement from Ms. Cheatle was her reference to the recently deceased representative Ms. Sheila Jackson Lee:
"I would be remiss if I did not also extend my condolences on the passing of your colleague, congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. Ms. Jackson Lee was always engaged in the oversight of the Secret Services and her passing is a great loss to this body."
Those who think that men can get pregnant will appreciate the magnanimity of Ms. Cheatle's condolences. Everyone else will recognize the statement for the chilling threat that it was: don't rock the boat for us; we have six ways from Sunday to get back at you.
I'm not sure what good it would do to refer these people to the Dept. of Justice. with Merrick Garland as Attorney General.
Right.
As each day goes by, it becomes more obvious this was an inside job perpetrated by agencies and officials of our own government. The shooter was allowed to be where he was, set up by the conspirators to take the shot, and then eliminated, a la Lee Harvey Oswald.
Can’t agree with you John that reports of water tower figure is a “distraction”.
I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
At this stage, all reports have merit for consideration
Put at risk? He was SHOT IN THE HEAD! I agree, these people should have been charged with criminal negligence more than a week ago. We cannot continue to live like this.
John, with regard to your travel from Amsterdam, all you needed to avoid overzealous security was an intelligence agency handler. From Wikipedia:
"Passengers Kurt and Lori Haskell told The Detroit News that prior to boarding the plane they witnessed a "smartly dressed man" possibly of Indian descent, around 50 years old, and who spoke "in an American accent similar to my own" helping a passenger they identified as Abdulmutallab onto the plane without a passport."
Thanks for that, didn't remember the details like you did but I knew the guy was helped on the plain with no passport. How did they manage to get through the isrtaeli security that was in charge?
Racially profiling was a big thing- don’t stop the guy who has dark skin- blah blah blah- look where we are now:( also level of let the violence happen then clean it up- as we saw with Trump situation. The world has gone mad- nothing we can do- the crazies have taken over and somehow convinced people to follow along. Zombies- we are living among zombies
Misdirection bungling, catastrophic incompetence in absence of other influences, is not the simpler solution to this event. The extreme degree of lack of critical thinking, other worldly coincidences, total failures at all levels in every area, by almost everyone are not realistically feasible or possible. Is there a ballistic report out yet to prove if all the bullets who struck the four people are from the same firearm and was it the assassins firearm?
Factionalism in government: here we see a patsy who was killed by the good hard-working SS team, but the guy on the watertower had the cleanest point of view. Did he take a shot at the SS team on the red barns? Sure looks like they jumped back and reset the tripod in great surprise. I think they were taking supressive fire from the tower to prevent them shooting Crooks. Did they then respond and knock that shooter off the tower. His team on the ground (white van) picked him up and skedaddled. That left a local cop to shut down Crooks, but I'm also attracted to the theory of a bad actor in that second story room taking the first three shots. We need a timed analysis of the three bystander injuries with recovery of the bullets from the fireman and maybe others. I think the SS team was new, had elements that were not SS and therefore somewhat incompetent, but there was a second team inserted into the SS team by another agency.
This is my personal current theory. First three disciplined spaced shots were NOT Crook, the follow on flurry was Crook mixed possibly with others.
I personally lean to a second shooter, the primary really, who f'd up. Trump moved his head. Sometimes momentous events turn on the tiniest of margins......
And, there is God.
My conclusion is that this was a deliberate WEF/Deep State attempt to kill Donald Trump. It reveals their desperation, and points to a looming potential failure of their fantasies to rule the world.
I watched the congressman's brief tour of the overwatch building and on the roof. Looking out the overwatch second floor window you can see the whole roof. So that is like wild information. It then seems like the likely spot for a second shooter? EDIT because if there were honest brokers on that second floor they would obviously shoot Crook or at least fire some rounds to awake everyone and distract Crook, at the LEAST.
We got a huge contrast in MSM interest. Whereas as someone pointed out for young Ritterhaus (sic) we got non stop daily investigations and a flow of information, on this whole thing, remarkably incurious.
I guess its up to X/Twitter bitchute rumble etc to investigate and provide timely info. MSM just ho hum the most seminal event in the last 20 years and 'look theres a Biden squirrel.....'
Ruthless Bungling is certainly a good term for it. How can anyone botch an underwear bomb job?
Of course the botched assassination was far worse with at least 15 people involved in a job that could have been handled by one professional hit man,and three assistants.
Was Trump supposed to die that day?
Im sure he was.
Still the message came through.
Walk the line,or die.
David Ike not only got refused entry a few years to Holland but they somehow managed to to ban him from every other European country as well to this day !! Maybe an interview with him might be in order?
Peak Prosperity is doing amazing work figuring out what really happened with everyone.