I disagree with a small part of your reporting. The SS snipers appear to see the gunman and only shoot him AFTER the shooter fires first. Between the testimony of the witness who attempted to notify police and security that there was a shooter on the roof for a few minutes, and the actual shooting with video of the snipers, it looks to me like the snipers were waiting for Trump to be taken out before shooting the shooter. There's other video (pretty poor) where people are yelling "He's got a gun!" and you hear a chamber being racked close by (possibly security in the crowd), before the shots are heard shooting at Trump.
One report I saw was that the director of SS , Kimberly Cheatle, specifically told a marksman to stand down even though he has the shooter in his sights for 3 minutes before the shooting. This can found on World News Report Today on Utube.
That would explain why the rally attendee who pointed out the rifle-toting man on the rooftop to police was ignored. See BBC interview: https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/crgrj92er1qo
An improvement on the old plan. Make sure you take the shooter out so you don't need to coordinate a second assassination. You don't want to need a Jack Ruby
Thanks! I had heard rumblings about it possibly being Pennsylvania officers. If true, that would take a LOT of heat off the SS and the delay in shooting. Still not understanding the lack of evacuation of Trump when the officers obviously spotted the sniper. Maybe there's hesitancy because the optics would look bad (shouldn't even be considered, if you show up with a rifle pointed at someone).
I don't think the presence of a police sniper takes any heat whatsoever off the SS. As I understand things, it is the ultimate responsibility of the SS to safeguard the premises when a President or candidate is speaking. It doesn't matter if there are other agencies lending a hand and manpower -- the SS should have made sure the area was secure. They obviously didn't do that, and seem unclear as to the protocols of response once the shooter was spotted by the crowd.
I've been watching lots of clips like this, and the sequencing is both interesting and important. Doesn't let the SS off the hook at all, imo. Thanks for sharing this one, btw! Much appreciated!
Angles, etc, but I've heard an account that Trump was watching the action. Trump could've taken himself off stage eg "seems something funny is going on up there - we're taking a break".?
A Oswaldian event. Identify a local anti-Trumper and manipulate him, energize him and provide him with the wherewithal to take Trump out. Then eliminate the shooter and classify it as a deranged lone gun man event. A planned assassination that is covered up. Reminds me of the RFK tragedy as well as the Reagan attempt! Puts the fear of God into our leadership if they don’t do the deep state bidding! Obama learned quickly who butters his bread. Joe knows the ropes!
THIS! This is the giveaway that the SS was trying to let the shooter kill Pres. Trump before they reacted in any way. At first sighting of the shooter, Trump should have been hustled off the stage into a protected area until the threat was neutralized. The SS all have 2-way radios and that order takes 1 to 2 seconds to give.
No, but Dan Bongino already explained today that nobody was under any restraints from firing; the ROE in place for LE allowed the snipers to fire the moment they saw a legitimate threat.
The consequences of the snipers not acting before the trigger was pulled speak for themselves--one person is dead, two others critically injured, and the protectee just barely saved from a fatal headshot by a slight wind gust. And of course the young person in question had to be killed anyways.
When a person is observed on a nearby rooftop with an AR-15, the snipers simply aren't doing their job if they don't immediately neutralize a threat that was obvious even to some spectators who were trying to raise an alarm. Moreover, look closely at how the two snipers reacted (video at https://twitter.com/i/status/1812286387384676497 ) as a shot hits Trump (~ 9 second mark, immediately before Trump starts raising his hand to cover his ear). They obviously weren't doing their job during the first few seconds after the trigger was pulled either.
Wow! if true. But it looked like that. He looked trained for a while.
That's why I was wondering what the rules were for killing someone before intent was unequivocal. I don't know why they couldn't blow the rifle out of his hands.
We don't know yet what targets were available to the SS snipers and when they were available--for example, it is possible that they might not have had a clear line-of-sight to the shooter at all until after several shots were taken. It has been suggested that the crest of the roof of the building was oriented such that a prone shooter would have been screened from the snipers, but not from the podium Trump was on.
As for trying to take out the shooter's rifle instead of the shooter, the basic problems are that (1) a shooter might have a backup weapon; and (2) the probability of neutralizing the threat even temporarily is lower, since the critical parts of a rifle are much smaller than the critical parts of the shooter.
Like many in the crowd, I guess the innocent young person (don't want to misgender anyone) was just trying to get a better view--through the telescopic sight on his rifle, cause he left his binoculars at home? Should have learned from that innocent young carjacker who walked up to a car in DC, pointed a gun at the occupants, and got shot in the face by Sotomayor's security team.
Yes, see my response below under BlazeCloudee3's comment. My response above was in jest, but what I said below is serious. I think there's no question standard protocols were suspended to allow an assassination to take place, and it all but happened--had Trump not moved at the last second, we would have had another Zapruder-style shower of brain matter live on Fox News as a giant F-you to the American people. They might very well try again, whether another shooting, poisoning, or even a truck bomb. Remember that Trump's security is provided by the Biden/Mayorkas SS, and the FBI has a history of preparing terrorist strikes by suggestable people. Many times the FBLiars stop the crime at the last instant to boost their crime-stopping cred, but other times (1993 World Trade Tower and OKC bombing, for example) they let it go ahead. This was supposed to be an assassination and the endgame of the ongoing coup against America.
Either do I, since suspension. But I could see it in the link. Don't know if true, but it's the reportedly the police sniper trained on the guy saying that the SS didn't give him permission to shoot. But "Tamenund" above suggests they had permission.
The snipers were on the rooftop specifically to locate and eliminate any threats; there's no protocol that requires them to request permission to fire once a threat has been detected.
From different accounts, it appears that once the shooter was detected (with the rifle) by the local police officer on the roof, he opened fire seconds later.
The snipers on the roof may have been looking at a figure lying down on the roof without seeing any weapon; once the weapon was presented the shooter was apparently pulling the trigger at the same time, leading the snipers to react after the fact.
To be clear, the security detail failed miserably on Saturday; there's no way that roof should have been unsecured. (Bongino stated on his show today that LE had their eyes on the guy earlier in the day but then lost sight of him; he says that DJT never should have been allowed on the stage until they found him.)
You’re a million percent correct. Everyone knows SS hung back until after the shooter. The snippers fired 42 seconds after the shooter shot. They had to shoot him bc he missed hitting Trump directly into his head.
Set up - yes - now tell me why SSDirector Cheatle was not fired on the spot. She never made a statement re shooting but made a statement today that increased security is being provided for the Republican convention -too little to late. With increased level of photographic scrutiny it is hard to not think the SS set this up. Hope Trump
has his own security to enhance his families safety and his own from this point forward. This is a clear indictment of intent to harm by our government of a legitimate presidential candidate; no way the standing government can deny this and no news as to whether RFK jr will finally receive SS protection which up to now he has been denied.
All candidates deserve equal protection - why has this not been done and why? Politics.
"Secret Service SNIPER had 'shooter' in sights for 3 min. before 'shooter' fired and ordered to stand down." Sniper disobeyed orders and shot shooter anyway and is now terminated from job.
If true (and from the video there's no reason to doubt it--the police snipers were clearly focused in the direction of the shooter before the shots), and if the officer indeed has gone public that he was blocked from shooting earlier, then he's in considerable danger. We all are, really. Alex Jones has been predicting assassination attempts on both Trump and Biden, and says the failed hit on Trump is likely only the opening round in an overt coup. How many Demoncrats have said on video that Trump cannot be allowed to win and must be eliminated?
Questioned the source; yet, there's no reason the source would lie about something as this when there's nothing to be gained for them.
Been expecting this for years, now...Since Trump's victory over Hitlery when the UN Uniparty began their Group Think, screeching, squawking and endless terror porn exposing themselves enemies of The Constitution of the U.S. With the Bush Crime Syndicate the top of the heap in the U.S.; there's no doubt this is deliberate.
Do believe the chaos to significantly escalate due to THE ENEMY OUT OF LONDON/SWITZERLAND becoming more and more desperate. Two-Hundred years, trillions of dollars, trillions of hours of plans and indoctrination of thousands of treasonous agents saturating all WESTERN INSTITUTIONS, the humiliation of the losses to the Revolutions the U.S. inspired to remove their absolute power and wealth...As well as the TERROR following the French Revolution when so many of their cohorts were outright murdered publicly and placed in unmarked graves with those they viewed their 'Human Cattle Herd.'
This is their ONLY shot as they know 'The People' will take them out permanently this time unlike other attacks upon the U.S. and the saturation of U.S. Institutions before now. They're doing all they possibly can in this WWIII to damage brains and infest with diseases...To demoralized, degrade and destroy. In the end, THE PEOPLE WILL WIN.
There are no brothels in Bangkok since the kids and prostites literally use the streets as their salons. Sorry to RAZZ Ya...Just couldn't resist.
Never crossed paths with that Outlet before.
Considering all the facts of this event...Such incompetence and subpar functioning in this totally CORRUPT environment; who knows what's true any longer?
I've read multiple unconfirmed reports that the SS counter sniper that shot the shooter violated his stand down order making the shot, was arrested, then fired. He needs a GoFundMe ASAP.
What I've also read is that SS protocol requires standing down until a shot has been fired. Which sounds like an order for the top to green light the Oswald package.
I do realize "arrested/fired" could be a cover story... i.e. - if a SS counter sniper needed some cover before he'd agree to do the deed, that might be a good cover (particularly if a GoFundMe were to arise and be heavily funded).
My point is, if they were told that there was a man on the roof with a gun, then why didn't the police & security on the ground go up there and unarm him and bring him down. Like a swat team will come out for less. To me that was the biggest read flag that it was a set-up. They had plenty of time to go up there and get that dude down. Instead, a police officer goes up there, sees, the man, the rifle gets pointed at him, the officer retreats. I'm just saying, these folks know how to come out in full force for just one person who may even be unarmed based on a call of a dangerous person is on the scene. Why didn't the local and ground forces rush up there and take care of the man? Instead, they let him stay up there.
There's an odd report I saw out today which came from the police chief there, saying there was no ladder there when his officers went over to look. Said one officer boosted another high enough to see up there, and had a rifle pointed at him. Since he's hanging on, he can't confront him more forcefully. So when did the picture with the ladder appear relative to the testimony of the chief that says his officers had to be boosted?
And why wasn't Trump pulled off the stage? I'm betting there were enough subversive elements to block or minimize any calls/radio reports about a gunman. Or claim that someone already reported it, and was being handled. To let everyone think it's been reported and will be handled.
The secret service is one of the most patriotic services in the country. They're trained to take a bullet for the president whether the agree with his politics or not. But it only takes one bad apple. In fact bystanders were pointing out the sniper to secret service and police minutes before shots were fired. So the SS does have some explaining to do.
If a former president and billionaire isn't safe in America, no one is. Who is the enemy? The SCOTUS, the DOJ and even the secret service have all turned against Trump. The secret service snipers even waited for him to get shot. American bureaucracy has become the tyranny .
I see no future for America unless she sheds the parasitic federal agencies and starts again, from scratch with independence, county by county, state by state. That's the only way out of the biblical nuclear war Biden is trying to start with Russia.
Take America out of the hands of government.
The only ones who can do that is the People themselves.
The circumstances certainly look VERY suspicious. Scoping the shooter — so SS knew he was there — and waiting until he fired nine shots. Ignoring people who pointed out the shooter on the roof. Setting up a tiny security perimeter well within gunshot range. Failing to occupy nearby buildings. This all stretches the bounds of incompetence beyond credible limits. More: https://peterdanielmiller.substack.com/p/if-it-doesnt-gel-it-isnt-aspic
Thanks i wondering if the one warning the police tried rigorously to alert them of the shooter and it looks like they did everything they could in the time they had, after watching his statements I truly believe this was a planning attack on our president by we know who.
Nope. "Good GUy" snipers with a SERIOUS long gun had SEEN the armed would be killer, had the equipment and the opportunity to instantly take him out (a man, armed wven with a puny AR, within that range, drawing down on their assgned perotectee is more than sufficient grounds to make the sho before the killer does, NOT ftter Trump would have been dead had he not providentially turned his head.
These two SS sellouts need to be suspended, and subjected to some SERIOUS interrogation, and unless they have some rock solid evidence or excuse, termitnated with extreme prejudice. VERY through background and contact examintion needs to be performed. but that won't happen as long as Sleepy Joey continues to sleep.
Any bets this pair of SS agents will be quietly dsideloned ahd "disappear" into the wodwork, never to be seen or heard from again?
I would like to see their names widely distributed.
There were plenty of SS that were hung or got the 21 gun salute for obeying the orders from their superiors. No, the problem is, minus the whistle-blowers, the entire agency.
The Secret Service WAS one of the most patriotic. No longer, nor have theybeen for well above a decade.
Anyone fairly familiar with long guns, and eamining the photo of the mounted rifle and shooter on that roof, will understand that it is a "high power" rifle.. at least .30 cal, perhaps lartger. At 150 yards, that bullet is still rising. Those two guys were in a perfect position to notice and assess that rooftop murderer. WHY did they do ?
In such a setting ANYONE not known to them and previously identified as someone who would be in that location MUST be a danger. Here is a civilian witihn dead-easy range with an AR pattern rifle, TAKING AIM at the very person these snipers are sworn to protect and defend. With the scope on that rifle (at least 15, probably kore than wenty power) the target's head would nearly have filled the field in that scope. At such close range point of aim and point of impact will be closer together than the width of thst dirtbag's nose. Even if he had a big one. As that killer was lining up his sights, taking careful aim at what was a very close target (those AR rifles are pretty accurate out to about 400 yards, more than twice the distance in this instance) I see inexperienced students seeking to become good marksmen easily make shots as large as a head at tht close range. I will bet high stakes at long odds this shooter was far more skilled than that. this should would be a piece of cake for a below average shooter. So WHY did the secret Service doods FAIL to take the appropriate action?
This whole thing smells VERY BAD. HOW did that killer get to that place and set up and NOT be challenged? He WAS noticed. Had I been a hired gun in that position and seen what was there to be seen, I'd have taken the kill shot long before he even got his sights aligned with Donald Trump's head. He had NO business being on that rooftop, let alone armed with a long gun. That would be sufficient grounds to justify taking him out.
Hope Trump hires an independent detective to find out more about the shooter and the owner of the building, if it turns up the building had security but it failed to me it’s a total setup, there’s a lot of information that can be investigated.
This is 3rd World Politics at play - Have your opponent you cannot beat, silenced, incriminated and/or assassinated! I watched this happen in Cambodia several years ago while living there. The corrupt Hun Family Regime "silences" any opponent, any way they have to, to win!
USA has become a Banana Republic under Democrats and the WEF / Globalist Cabal.
They are all filthy liars, criminals, murderers, the lowest form of life on this planet.
Prayers for Mr Trump and his family even as a Brit on the otherside of the world my blood ran cold when i saw the news late last night. I hope this will turn even more against Biden and his evil deluded supporters.
Trump is a huge threat to the cabal of global psychopaths who think they own the world. This incident reeks of a setup. Covertly recruit a gullible 20 year old kid, mind-control him, give him the plans on exactly how to carry out the assassination - the timing, which roof, which part of the roof etc, then kill the kid immediately after the deed. Of course, it would have required some high-ranking liaison with the secret service on where the snipers would be positioned and where they SHOULD have been positioned, but weren't. It was all too stupid to be true. Maybe I'm way off the mark with my assumptions, but as of now, I don't think so.
And will Biden's administration now grant secret service protection for RFK JR.? Or have him continue to spend $1 MILLION monthly on that. Part of their abysmally low tactics against him.
I’m glad he’s ok. One of my Dem friends stated, “they were a few inches off.” Then she tried to deny what she really meant. I don’t understand ANYONE who would say something like this, even if you did not want to vote for him. When Trump had Covid, a church-going neighbor said, “I hope he dies.” I asked him, “Really? Don’t you go to church and consider yourself a Christian?” “Why, yes, of course I am a Christian”he replied indignantly “but he’s evil.” I replied, “You might wanna rethink who is actually evil.” Then I turned my back on him and kept raking my leaves. People can be just horrible.
The incident at the Trump rally today was a typical set up. Do not get caught up in the details. Unfortunately, people were killed, seriously injured, and traumatized. This entire incident is shameful!!!! I agree with RFK, Jr. We need to get beyond this type of behavior where people are so polarized that they lash out at others. We need to recognize how the psychopaths are manipulating us - some are more susceptible to manipulation than others. And, we need to unite within our communities to work together for the betterment of all people.
Bullet vapor trail? How’s about blood and tissue from the ear shot. It only appears after passing the head.
Another SSRI or HRT twisted shooter?
That sniper was scoping straight at the perp prior to the shots, shitting himself before returning fire with a unprepared, lucky reflex shot. If it was even him and not the other scaredy cat laying next to him who shimmied back down the barn roof, and didn’t seem to have time to reposition & reply.
As if the shooter was ever going to bother taking out the snipers and blowing his position before taking his mark. Why did professional marksmen flinch? DEI hires with relevant COD game play hours? They LET it happen.
In politics - there are no "accidents" or "coincidences". Like the recent lapses in security around Fico and Orban - at the very least, these attempts 'send a message'.
It is egregious that the Secret Service had not secured EVERY rooftop close enough to have posed a potential threat. Egregious. First, I thought simple incompetence, but I do think probably probably a hired assassin. I now think, rather than relying on SS, that DJT should hire a private security team. I have read about a gunman being caught at an RFK Jr. event, and about the BIden administration denying RFK SS protection. This has forced RFK to pay for what may be the best security team in the world. RFK has complained that it costs a lot for his campaign to purchase this security, but I think RFK has much better protection than DJT, and protection by people he has hired who are under his control, who want to protect him. RFK has a friend who does protection for very high level people around the world, and Bobby has this guy and a whole team of their people protecting him. If SS is either this incompetent, or perhaps weaponized against DJT, maybe it is necessary to hire real security even though very costly. A shame it has come to this. But it really seems inexcusable that this happened as it did - and thank God that the attempt was not successful.
I disagree with a small part of your reporting. The SS snipers appear to see the gunman and only shoot him AFTER the shooter fires first. Between the testimony of the witness who attempted to notify police and security that there was a shooter on the roof for a few minutes, and the actual shooting with video of the snipers, it looks to me like the snipers were waiting for Trump to be taken out before shooting the shooter. There's other video (pretty poor) where people are yelling "He's got a gun!" and you hear a chamber being racked close by (possibly security in the crowd), before the shots are heard shooting at Trump.
This smells like a setup gone wrong. Thank God!
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“..it looks to me like the snipers were waiting for Trump to be taken out before shooting the shooter.”
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One report I saw was that the director of SS , Kimberly Cheatle, specifically told a marksman to stand down even though he has the shooter in his sights for 3 minutes before the shooting. This can found on World News Report Today on Utube.
That would explain why the rally attendee who pointed out the rifle-toting man on the rooftop to police was ignored. See BBC interview: https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/crgrj92er1qo
The SS sniper seems to have had the Jack Ruby assignment. Let President Trump be shot, then make sure the shooter can't implicate others.
An improvement on the old plan. Make sure you take the shooter out so you don't need to coordinate a second assassination. You don't want to need a Jack Ruby
Will the sniper who shot the assassin die of cancer like Jack Ruby did?
Looks that way
Apparently the snipers who shot back were not Secret Service they were Pennsylvania State officers
Thanks! I had heard rumblings about it possibly being Pennsylvania officers. If true, that would take a LOT of heat off the SS and the delay in shooting. Still not understanding the lack of evacuation of Trump when the officers obviously spotted the sniper. Maybe there's hesitancy because the optics would look bad (shouldn't even be considered, if you show up with a rifle pointed at someone).
I don't think the presence of a police sniper takes any heat whatsoever off the SS. As I understand things, it is the ultimate responsibility of the SS to safeguard the premises when a President or candidate is speaking. It doesn't matter if there are other agencies lending a hand and manpower -- the SS should have made sure the area was secure. They obviously didn't do that, and seem unclear as to the protocols of response once the shooter was spotted by the crowd.
https://x.com/akafacehots/status/1812564269604741177/photo/1
It would explain a few things and the timing and sequence of events.
I've been watching lots of clips like this, and the sequencing is both interesting and important. Doesn't let the SS off the hook at all, imo. Thanks for sharing this one, btw! Much appreciated!
Yes for sure
Angles, etc, but I've heard an account that Trump was watching the action. Trump could've taken himself off stage eg "seems something funny is going on up there - we're taking a break".?
That looks even worse for all
https://odysee.com/@Plazma:9/shooterspotted:3
Baghdad broadcasting corporation has now edited that down to less than 2 minutes on their site.
thanks
His name is Greg Smith from the bbc post.
A Oswaldian event. Identify a local anti-Trumper and manipulate him, energize him and provide him with the wherewithal to take Trump out. Then eliminate the shooter and classify it as a deranged lone gun man event. A planned assassination that is covered up. Reminds me of the RFK tragedy as well as the Reagan attempt! Puts the fear of God into our leadership if they don’t do the deep state bidding! Obama learned quickly who butters his bread. Joe knows the ropes!
Thank-you.
Thinking on the same lines as you. No doubt about what you're writing.
They do have their seductions of the socially weak and lonely...VERY SAD.
Would the SS snipers have a problem if they killed a young person before a trigger was pulled?
But Trump should've been taken off the stage.
THIS! This is the giveaway that the SS was trying to let the shooter kill Pres. Trump before they reacted in any way. At first sighting of the shooter, Trump should have been hustled off the stage into a protected area until the threat was neutralized. The SS all have 2-way radios and that order takes 1 to 2 seconds to give.
A head shot wasn't prevented while they were removing him from the stage.
The tiny woman in the front?
She looks pretty obese to me.
I think he was protected from the shooter's direction - the SS had the big guys behind him.
If the guy was surreptitiously crawling on a roof with a rifle 150 yards from a former US President and current presidential candidate?
Um, no.
Right! What else do they think he was going to do up there?!
Seen this? https://x.com/akafacehots/status/1812564269604741177/photo/1
No, but Dan Bongino already explained today that nobody was under any restraints from firing; the ROE in place for LE allowed the snipers to fire the moment they saw a legitimate threat.
The consequences of the snipers not acting before the trigger was pulled speak for themselves--one person is dead, two others critically injured, and the protectee just barely saved from a fatal headshot by a slight wind gust. And of course the young person in question had to be killed anyways.
When a person is observed on a nearby rooftop with an AR-15, the snipers simply aren't doing their job if they don't immediately neutralize a threat that was obvious even to some spectators who were trying to raise an alarm. Moreover, look closely at how the two snipers reacted (video at https://twitter.com/i/status/1812286387384676497 ) as a shot hits Trump (~ 9 second mark, immediately before Trump starts raising his hand to cover his ear). They obviously weren't doing their job during the first few seconds after the trigger was pulled either.
https://x.com/akafacehots/status/1812564269604741177/photo/1
I would hope that this isn't true, but I can see it being so. It would explain a few things and the timing and sequence of events.
Wow! if true. But it looked like that. He looked trained for a while.
That's why I was wondering what the rules were for killing someone before intent was unequivocal. I don't know why they couldn't blow the rifle out of his hands.
We don't know yet what targets were available to the SS snipers and when they were available--for example, it is possible that they might not have had a clear line-of-sight to the shooter at all until after several shots were taken. It has been suggested that the crest of the roof of the building was oriented such that a prone shooter would have been screened from the snipers, but not from the podium Trump was on.
As for trying to take out the shooter's rifle instead of the shooter, the basic problems are that (1) a shooter might have a backup weapon; and (2) the probability of neutralizing the threat even temporarily is lower, since the critical parts of a rifle are much smaller than the critical parts of the shooter.
Thanks Vincent. I know nothing at all about the subject. I'm just chatting in the shock and surprise with everyone else.
Like many in the crowd, I guess the innocent young person (don't want to misgender anyone) was just trying to get a better view--through the telescopic sight on his rifle, cause he left his binoculars at home? Should have learned from that innocent young carjacker who walked up to a car in DC, pointed a gun at the occupants, and got shot in the face by Sotomayor's security team.
I don't think we ever got to learn the shooter's pronouns...
Only needs one pronoun--DOA.
But the police appeared trained on the guy for a while, without shooting - I thought there must be a reason. Have you seen this, from "Justin" above... ? https://x.com/akafacehots/status/1812564269604741177/photo /1
Yes, see my response below under BlazeCloudee3's comment. My response above was in jest, but what I said below is serious. I think there's no question standard protocols were suspended to allow an assassination to take place, and it all but happened--had Trump not moved at the last second, we would have had another Zapruder-style shower of brain matter live on Fox News as a giant F-you to the American people. They might very well try again, whether another shooting, poisoning, or even a truck bomb. Remember that Trump's security is provided by the Biden/Mayorkas SS, and the FBI has a history of preparing terrorist strikes by suggestable people. Many times the FBLiars stop the crime at the last instant to boost their crime-stopping cred, but other times (1993 World Trade Tower and OKC bombing, for example) they let it go ahead. This was supposed to be an assassination and the endgame of the ongoing coup against America.
Probably not if they were on a rooftop with an AR.
Have you seen this, from "Justin" above? https://x.com/akafacehots/status/1812564269604741177/photo/1
Probably not since I do not have an X account.
Either do I, since suspension. But I could see it in the link. Don't know if true, but it's the reportedly the police sniper trained on the guy saying that the SS didn't give him permission to shoot. But "Tamenund" above suggests they had permission.
The snipers were on the rooftop specifically to locate and eliminate any threats; there's no protocol that requires them to request permission to fire once a threat has been detected.
From different accounts, it appears that once the shooter was detected (with the rifle) by the local police officer on the roof, he opened fire seconds later.
The snipers on the roof may have been looking at a figure lying down on the roof without seeing any weapon; once the weapon was presented the shooter was apparently pulling the trigger at the same time, leading the snipers to react after the fact.
To be clear, the security detail failed miserably on Saturday; there's no way that roof should have been unsecured. (Bongino stated on his show today that LE had their eyes on the guy earlier in the day but then lost sight of him; he says that DJT never should have been allowed on the stage until they found him.)
You’re a million percent correct. Everyone knows SS hung back until after the shooter. The snippers fired 42 seconds after the shooter shot. They had to shoot him bc he missed hitting Trump directly into his head.
Set up - yes - now tell me why SSDirector Cheatle was not fired on the spot. She never made a statement re shooting but made a statement today that increased security is being provided for the Republican convention -too little to late. With increased level of photographic scrutiny it is hard to not think the SS set this up. Hope Trump
has his own security to enhance his families safety and his own from this point forward. This is a clear indictment of intent to harm by our government of a legitimate presidential candidate; no way the standing government can deny this and no news as to whether RFK jr will finally receive SS protection which up to now he has been denied.
All candidates deserve equal protection - why has this not been done and why? Politics.
Nobody appears to have done anything to prevent him from climbing up on a building with a AR-style rifle.
From a comment on another stack, the ladder was supposedly attached to the building.
Does the presence of the ladder make murder legal?
https://www.albawaba.com/node/secret-service-sniper-claims-he-was-1577110
"Secret Service SNIPER had 'shooter' in sights for 3 min. before 'shooter' fired and ordered to stand down." Sniper disobeyed orders and shot shooter anyway and is now terminated from job.
If true (and from the video there's no reason to doubt it--the police snipers were clearly focused in the direction of the shooter before the shots), and if the officer indeed has gone public that he was blocked from shooting earlier, then he's in considerable danger. We all are, really. Alex Jones has been predicting assassination attempts on both Trump and Biden, and says the failed hit on Trump is likely only the opening round in an overt coup. How many Demoncrats have said on video that Trump cannot be allowed to win and must be eliminated?
Questioned the source; yet, there's no reason the source would lie about something as this when there's nothing to be gained for them.
Been expecting this for years, now...Since Trump's victory over Hitlery when the UN Uniparty began their Group Think, screeching, squawking and endless terror porn exposing themselves enemies of The Constitution of the U.S. With the Bush Crime Syndicate the top of the heap in the U.S.; there's no doubt this is deliberate.
Do believe the chaos to significantly escalate due to THE ENEMY OUT OF LONDON/SWITZERLAND becoming more and more desperate. Two-Hundred years, trillions of dollars, trillions of hours of plans and indoctrination of thousands of treasonous agents saturating all WESTERN INSTITUTIONS, the humiliation of the losses to the Revolutions the U.S. inspired to remove their absolute power and wealth...As well as the TERROR following the French Revolution when so many of their cohorts were outright murdered publicly and placed in unmarked graves with those they viewed their 'Human Cattle Herd.'
This is their ONLY shot as they know 'The People' will take them out permanently this time unlike other attacks upon the U.S. and the saturation of U.S. Institutions before now. They're doing all they possibly can in this WWIII to damage brains and infest with diseases...To demoralized, degrade and destroy. In the end, THE PEOPLE WILL WIN.
"BlazeCloude3
Questioned the source; yet, there's no reason the source would lie about something as this when there's nothing to be gained for them"
Seriously? the "source" is 4chan! Truth on 4chan is rarer than a virgin whore in a Bangkok brothel!
Must be the truth then.
There are no brothels in Bangkok since the kids and prostites literally use the streets as their salons. Sorry to RAZZ Ya...Just couldn't resist.
Never crossed paths with that Outlet before.
Considering all the facts of this event...Such incompetence and subpar functioning in this totally CORRUPT environment; who knows what's true any longer?
I've read multiple unconfirmed reports that the SS counter sniper that shot the shooter violated his stand down order making the shot, was arrested, then fired. He needs a GoFundMe ASAP.
What I've also read is that SS protocol requires standing down until a shot has been fired. Which sounds like an order for the top to green light the Oswald package.
I do realize "arrested/fired" could be a cover story... i.e. - if a SS counter sniper needed some cover before he'd agree to do the deed, that might be a good cover (particularly if a GoFundMe were to arise and be heavily funded).
My point is, if they were told that there was a man on the roof with a gun, then why didn't the police & security on the ground go up there and unarm him and bring him down. Like a swat team will come out for less. To me that was the biggest read flag that it was a set-up. They had plenty of time to go up there and get that dude down. Instead, a police officer goes up there, sees, the man, the rifle gets pointed at him, the officer retreats. I'm just saying, these folks know how to come out in full force for just one person who may even be unarmed based on a call of a dangerous person is on the scene. Why didn't the local and ground forces rush up there and take care of the man? Instead, they let him stay up there.
There's an odd report I saw out today which came from the police chief there, saying there was no ladder there when his officers went over to look. Said one officer boosted another high enough to see up there, and had a rifle pointed at him. Since he's hanging on, he can't confront him more forcefully. So when did the picture with the ladder appear relative to the testimony of the chief that says his officers had to be boosted?
And why wasn't Trump pulled off the stage? I'm betting there were enough subversive elements to block or minimize any calls/radio reports about a gunman. Or claim that someone already reported it, and was being handled. To let everyone think it's been reported and will be handled.
You are logically correct.
https://x.com/akafacehots/status/1812564269604741177/photo/1
I would hope that this isn't true, but I can see it being so. It would explain a few things and the timing and sequence of events.
Yes indeed in many ways
The secret service is one of the most patriotic services in the country. They're trained to take a bullet for the president whether the agree with his politics or not. But it only takes one bad apple. In fact bystanders were pointing out the sniper to secret service and police minutes before shots were fired. So the SS does have some explaining to do.
If a former president and billionaire isn't safe in America, no one is. Who is the enemy? The SCOTUS, the DOJ and even the secret service have all turned against Trump. The secret service snipers even waited for him to get shot. American bureaucracy has become the tyranny .
I see no future for America unless she sheds the parasitic federal agencies and starts again, from scratch with independence, county by county, state by state. That's the only way out of the biblical nuclear war Biden is trying to start with Russia.
Take America out of the hands of government.
The only ones who can do that is the People themselves.
The circumstances certainly look VERY suspicious. Scoping the shooter — so SS knew he was there — and waiting until he fired nine shots. Ignoring people who pointed out the shooter on the roof. Setting up a tiny security perimeter well within gunshot range. Failing to occupy nearby buildings. This all stretches the bounds of incompetence beyond credible limits. More: https://peterdanielmiller.substack.com/p/if-it-doesnt-gel-it-isnt-aspic
yes, precisely. And that comes on the back of this relentless rhetoric that the media is so happy to disseminate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG5BcU1ZGiA
Too funny. As if the current cast of milquetoast talking heads and apparatchiks would actually win a fight.
Well said and great choice of words considering the parasites they are putting in us. "parasitic federal agencies "
Federalism on steroids
https://www.reinhabitedrepublic.com/
https://odysee.com/@Plazma:9/shooterspotted:3
Thanks i wondering if the one warning the police tried rigorously to alert them of the shooter and it looks like they did everything they could in the time they had, after watching his statements I truly believe this was a planning attack on our president by we know who.
Nope. "Good GUy" snipers with a SERIOUS long gun had SEEN the armed would be killer, had the equipment and the opportunity to instantly take him out (a man, armed wven with a puny AR, within that range, drawing down on their assgned perotectee is more than sufficient grounds to make the sho before the killer does, NOT ftter Trump would have been dead had he not providentially turned his head.
These two SS sellouts need to be suspended, and subjected to some SERIOUS interrogation, and unless they have some rock solid evidence or excuse, termitnated with extreme prejudice. VERY through background and contact examintion needs to be performed. but that won't happen as long as Sleepy Joey continues to sleep.
Any bets this pair of SS agents will be quietly dsideloned ahd "disappear" into the wodwork, never to be seen or heard from again?
I would like to see their names widely distributed.
The SS of the past is over. Now they are all part of the Obama plan to kill Trump. There were 9 shots fired.
Next thing I know you'll tell me most FBI agents are fine, patriotic Americans. You're living in a dream world.
Actually that's exactly what I believe. I'm not a cynical as you appear to be. It's the politically motivated upper echelon that's the problem.
We agree on one thing, I'm more cynical. Not by choice. By observation, and seeing things as they are, not as I wish they were. Try it!
You coukd be right. I may end up eating my words, but for now I prefer to believe most join to protect our republic, not destroy it.
Back at you, I hope you're right. Anybody willing to admit they might be wrong is A-OK. I don't know it all, either.
There were plenty of SS that were hung or got the 21 gun salute for obeying the orders from their superiors. No, the problem is, minus the whistle-blowers, the entire agency.
They used to be. They perhaps still are. But nothing about these days is as it used to be.
IT TAKES SOMEONE IN CHARGE. This wasn't a low level officer.
Secret Service works for the government, the government doesn't work for the people. The government works for the government.
The Secret Service WAS one of the most patriotic. No longer, nor have theybeen for well above a decade.
Anyone fairly familiar with long guns, and eamining the photo of the mounted rifle and shooter on that roof, will understand that it is a "high power" rifle.. at least .30 cal, perhaps lartger. At 150 yards, that bullet is still rising. Those two guys were in a perfect position to notice and assess that rooftop murderer. WHY did they do ?
In such a setting ANYONE not known to them and previously identified as someone who would be in that location MUST be a danger. Here is a civilian witihn dead-easy range with an AR pattern rifle, TAKING AIM at the very person these snipers are sworn to protect and defend. With the scope on that rifle (at least 15, probably kore than wenty power) the target's head would nearly have filled the field in that scope. At such close range point of aim and point of impact will be closer together than the width of thst dirtbag's nose. Even if he had a big one. As that killer was lining up his sights, taking careful aim at what was a very close target (those AR rifles are pretty accurate out to about 400 yards, more than twice the distance in this instance) I see inexperienced students seeking to become good marksmen easily make shots as large as a head at tht close range. I will bet high stakes at long odds this shooter was far more skilled than that. this should would be a piece of cake for a below average shooter. So WHY did the secret Service doods FAIL to take the appropriate action?
This whole thing smells VERY BAD. HOW did that killer get to that place and set up and NOT be challenged? He WAS noticed. Had I been a hired gun in that position and seen what was there to be seen, I'd have taken the kill shot long before he even got his sights aligned with Donald Trump's head. He had NO business being on that rooftop, let alone armed with a long gun. That would be sufficient grounds to justify taking him out.
Hope Trump hires an independent detective to find out more about the shooter and the owner of the building, if it turns up the building had security but it failed to me it’s a total setup, there’s a lot of information that can be investigated.
Or some lying & ass-covering to do.
They are doing that now ! No excuse……SETUP VEGAS STYLE
One big or huge bad apple
This is 3rd World Politics at play - Have your opponent you cannot beat, silenced, incriminated and/or assassinated! I watched this happen in Cambodia several years ago while living there. The corrupt Hun Family Regime "silences" any opponent, any way they have to, to win!
USA has become a Banana Republic under Democrats and the WEF / Globalist Cabal.
They are all filthy liars, criminals, murderers, the lowest form of life on this planet.
Prayers for Mr Trump and his family even as a Brit on the otherside of the world my blood ran cold when i saw the news late last night. I hope this will turn even more against Biden and his evil deluded supporters.
It is happening as of this morning. Bill Ackman endorsed Trump and many people will follow him into Trump’s victory.
Trump is a huge threat to the cabal of global psychopaths who think they own the world. This incident reeks of a setup. Covertly recruit a gullible 20 year old kid, mind-control him, give him the plans on exactly how to carry out the assassination - the timing, which roof, which part of the roof etc, then kill the kid immediately after the deed. Of course, it would have required some high-ranking liaison with the secret service on where the snipers would be positioned and where they SHOULD have been positioned, but weren't. It was all too stupid to be true. Maybe I'm way off the mark with my assumptions, but as of now, I don't think so.
"Secret Service Has Some 'Splainin to Do"
Sure, they will assign the task to the JFK team :P...
And will Biden's administration now grant secret service protection for RFK JR.? Or have him continue to spend $1 MILLION monthly on that. Part of their abysmally low tactics against him.
I’m glad he’s ok. One of my Dem friends stated, “they were a few inches off.” Then she tried to deny what she really meant. I don’t understand ANYONE who would say something like this, even if you did not want to vote for him. When Trump had Covid, a church-going neighbor said, “I hope he dies.” I asked him, “Really? Don’t you go to church and consider yourself a Christian?” “Why, yes, of course I am a Christian”he replied indignantly “but he’s evil.” I replied, “You might wanna rethink who is actually evil.” Then I turned my back on him and kept raking my leaves. People can be just horrible.
The incident at the Trump rally today was a typical set up. Do not get caught up in the details. Unfortunately, people were killed, seriously injured, and traumatized. This entire incident is shameful!!!! I agree with RFK, Jr. We need to get beyond this type of behavior where people are so polarized that they lash out at others. We need to recognize how the psychopaths are manipulating us - some are more susceptible to manipulation than others. And, we need to unite within our communities to work together for the betterment of all people.
This smacks of Whitmer’s “kidnapping”.
It’s quite plausible that the Secret Service will live up to their name and keep all the info pertaining to Trump’s shooting, a secret too.
Bullet vapor trail? How’s about blood and tissue from the ear shot. It only appears after passing the head.
Another SSRI or HRT twisted shooter?
That sniper was scoping straight at the perp prior to the shots, shitting himself before returning fire with a unprepared, lucky reflex shot. If it was even him and not the other scaredy cat laying next to him who shimmied back down the barn roof, and didn’t seem to have time to reposition & reply.
As if the shooter was ever going to bother taking out the snipers and blowing his position before taking his mark. Why did professional marksmen flinch? DEI hires with relevant COD game play hours? They LET it happen.
Trump should forget SS 'security' and get military white hats who know how to do the job right.
To my knowledge.. there are no “white hats”. Who do you think they are? I’ve asked this before and no one answers the question.
Wasn't Tucker Carlson worried that something like this could happen? I remember him interviewing Donald Trump during the Republican Primary debate.
What kind of world are we living in these days? This is all pure insanity.
In politics - there are no "accidents" or "coincidences". Like the recent lapses in security around Fico and Orban - at the very least, these attempts 'send a message'.
Because the entirety of the DOJ is weaponized against DJT.
Case in point:
https://notthebee.com/article/fbi-employee-who-works-in-background-check-division-jokes-about-trump-almost-being-murdered-takes-aim-at-2nd-amendment-loving-hillbillies
It is egregious that the Secret Service had not secured EVERY rooftop close enough to have posed a potential threat. Egregious. First, I thought simple incompetence, but I do think probably probably a hired assassin. I now think, rather than relying on SS, that DJT should hire a private security team. I have read about a gunman being caught at an RFK Jr. event, and about the BIden administration denying RFK SS protection. This has forced RFK to pay for what may be the best security team in the world. RFK has complained that it costs a lot for his campaign to purchase this security, but I think RFK has much better protection than DJT, and protection by people he has hired who are under his control, who want to protect him. RFK has a friend who does protection for very high level people around the world, and Bobby has this guy and a whole team of their people protecting him. If SS is either this incompetent, or perhaps weaponized against DJT, maybe it is necessary to hire real security even though very costly. A shame it has come to this. But it really seems inexcusable that this happened as it did - and thank God that the attempt was not successful.