Intentional human error? What is that--negligent manslaughter, or plain murder? If any of the crew members are among the survivors the local Italian prosecutor is probably looking into it.
Maybe, but what's the motive? Hewlitt Packard just lost a big lawsuit to the ship's owner, so naturally HP would be upset with him, but how would killing the guy help HP? It could actually hurt the company, even if they did it and they get away with it. What other potential contractors or business partners would wish to do a profitable deal with HP now, knowing if HP gets butt-hurt they will possibly murder the offending party and his family? I hope we find out who else the dead guy did wrong.
Or a combination of design flaw and human error. The massive mast, a consequence of ego and probably ignorance rather than sound marine architecture, created tremendous windage and a powerful lever. With no fixed ballast keel and the swing keel up going beam to the wind in heavy conditions apparently caused a knockdown severe enough to flood the cabin, at which point stability is quickly lost. If the vessel was struck by an extreme squall the crew should have had the engine running, prepared to power bow to the wind, and the keel down in case the anchor dragged. Otherwise with the swing keel up wind load levering against the rudder would force the vessel beam to. If on the other hand they really were hit suddenly and unexpectedly on the beam by a waterspout, precluding the opportunity to react, then unsound design may well be the proximate cause.
No. The weather reports sent everyone home except these inexperienced and probably over-confident rich people.
Besides, if the idea is to take someone out then science fiction "weapons" which have never been demonstrated publicly (weapons are far more useful under the threat of use instead of actual use) are about the least reliable and messiest way to do it. And rich people are far easier to manipulate when they are threatened with bankruptcy and a disruption in their way of life versus outright just killing them. Easier to manipulate the use of their funds, too.
If every time some natural phenomena occurs the public ascribes it to man-made devices and effects (see "climate change") then they've got you right where they want you, believing that if the virgins (sadly, children now) aren't sacrificed on their altars they will call forth the fires and floods.
If you were actually paying attention you would know that the former head of the CIA, John Brennan, admitted in a talk to the Council of Foreign Relations, that the government does indeed have weather weapons.
And I guess you think the fires in Maui were just an act of nature.
Let’s see if substack censors the stuff I post like facebook and other sites.
80% of recent events had abnormalities in the jet stream. This is the most accurate one I can find and it’s censored everywhere where I tried posting. Maybe they will allow it now.
Kathleen ( and anyone reading). … I forgot to mention regarding the jet stream globe …. The most accurate depiction of the jet stream is the one approximately 5-7 hours behind the actual time.
For example. It’s around 1600 hours now. So the accurate time on the time/date stamp is 1300 hrs that shows the proper data.
Anything after is the forecast it seems which I couldn’t rely on.
And. Here is another link to these machines they use to swath usi in energy and manipulate weather. They have portable machines too. They use different machines together.
( also learned NOTAMS are a great resource to where they are using their machines in questionable areas. The easiest way I found was in Monkey WERX on you tube. It was faster using them than searching on my own. )
So combine everything I posted here and you can see wtf these evil people are doing. Please share this info as I’m not well and can’t get info out hardly. I’m just a grandma that figured this out on my own. Lmao.
And here is super darn link for a laugh. They are all over.
As you say, former head of CIA. Their entire charter is to deceive. If the US had these insurmountable weapons they wouldn't be getting destroyed in Ukraine. People with zero understanding of science and the laws of thermodynamics (and the very scope of the energy needed to manipulate the weather upon demand) will literally believe anything because it fits their world view. This is flat earth territory.
Not sure I follow your logic. But I would say you maybe haven't had times that evil was around you personally. Evil is what evil does. The devil doesn't bother oppressing people (or ending lives of those) that he already has...and I believe it.
Unfortunately, most accidents of this type are crew error. Sailboats are pretty sable but do have their limits. The same goes for commercial aircraft...like 99% of the time it is pilot error that causes incidents. Just the challenge of traveling on the sea or air. Pax
I will refute your claim that 99% of plane crashes it's pilot error. I have read and watched far too many crash investigations to allow such a claim to stand! Pilot error MAY, or may not, contribute, but in many cases, what crashed the plane was entirely out of the pilots' control, even if they had sufficient time and altitude to figure out what was wrong, and try to correct for it!
While the 99% is an exaggeration, I as an IFR rated pilot pay a lot of attention to incidents. This includes reading NTSB REPORTS as well as looking at to what trusted industry experts have to say. Invariably it is pilot error that leads to incidents. The systems on aircraft (if properly maintained) fail quite infrequently. It is said that an incident is like a chain … break a link and an incident can be avoided. If one reads these NTSB Reports one can see the steps taken or not taken that lead the craft into tera-firma. 🤷♀️
Kind of like pilot error caused JFK Jr's plane to go down?
Keel up, anchors set, all ports open?
Plane with throttle wide open & pointed to the ocean floor? A co-pilot with a mission, I heard, & the reason finding the crash site took so long was that they needed to get the extra body recovered, so that the technique would not be revealed, as it had been done before.
Really, what's happening in our reality? Lots of people wind up dead. The people who know what is going on, for real. Read Whitney Webb's bit about the gang controlling where every vial of C19 juice went, then listen to this-https://youtu.be/TcbuqQd57rY?si=K9dpg9CkZ9yy3Mso
JFK, Jr had no copilot, just himself and 2 passengers, neither even near the controls. He was tired, NOT instrument flight qualified, and flying after dark over water (not a wise plan for a minimally qualified pilot). He lost his horizon and failed to heed or believe his instrument telling him his plane's attitude. Spatial disorientation can occur even in experienced and highly qualified pilots, especially at night over water or in low visibility (heavy cloud) type conditions, indeed, has led to crashes more than once! He filed a flight plan, naming all persons on board for the flight. So much for your "extra body"; it wasn't there on takeoff either.
There's no mystery about JFK Jr.'s plane crash. He was the stereotypical pilot with too much money, too much airplane, and too little training on how to fly it. I'm an instrument-rated pilot with high-performance complex endorsement. People who haven't undergone the training cannot appreciate that flying while relying solely on instruments can be counterintuitive- meaning the instruments are telling you the aircraft is in a descending tight turn but your senses may be telling you something's happening but you can't tell what it is. In that situation, the under-trained pilot attempts a correction that worsens the problem.
The Kennedy family was famous for taking physical risks in the belief the rules didn't apply to them. Another family member was killed throwing a football back and forth while snow-skiing. They had been warned not to, but refused to listen. He plowed into a tree at full speed. FAFO.
This has to do with the plans around Covid. It is well worth the time to listen to, & ties into the open assassinations of JFK & RFK.
I realize the opinion I have about the possible cause of JFK Jr's death is a total "conspiracy theory," to use the CIA's mind control terminology, but when an experienced investigator laid it all out in a documentary I saw ages ago, everything clicked. Not saying I know it is true, it just answered some very troubling questions, imo, about his death & was 100% plausible.
This video may vanish, I suggest you download it and save.
I saw the 2 documentaries the movie maker put out and they were very interesting!!!
He only used documents and reporting. He used real information and pieced stuff together. It’s worth watching. It contradicts many things we were told.
We have a very large sailboat (40m, not 56!), and so have a couple of very knowledgeable friends. PNs are gorgeous but sit very high. The forward salon was virtually all above the water line, so very large. The wife (and owner) reported hearing glass breaking. If she heard the forward salon windows, the salon would have taken on water in a way that the boat could not have righted itself. This seems to me to be plausible. It is implausible to me that a crew of 10 or so would not have had someone standing watch. By all accounts that storm was very sudden and if its dark, impossible to see.
At least one crew member told the passengers to go to sleep in their cabins instead of being in the assembly area. Crew not doing standard storm prep procedures and frequent walk-around checks is simple incompetence or willful murder. I'd want blood tests and detailed physical and mental exams on all the crew.
You mean a boat that foundered in a storm foundered because of the storm – helped along by the complacency of billionaires and the mediocrity and/or deference of the people who orbit around them?!
Tosh and pshaw, I say! That’s what the CIA wants us to talk about, rather than their secret submarine fiberglass magnets.
The keel up part is the most questionable. If it has a retractable keel, then it will be much less stable with the keel up. But if they're worried about the depth being too shallow and the keel hitting aground, then I can understand. I'll have to read more...
Sure, the guy is gonna defend the ship he built. And it probably was a very safe vessel.
But he’s going deep into conjecture and fantasy, and blaming it on people who may not have done anything wrong. It’s extremely disrespectful to those who are no longer here to defend themselves.
One of the many glaring inaccuracies in his statement is in his description of the boat being pushed sideways by the wind and heeling radically, taking on water through open doors.
Except that it would never happen that way.
When a sailboat is anchored off-shore, it’s always anchored from the bow, and therefore it’s always bow-to-wind/current no matter what direction the wind is coming from.
So is there evidence that the boat was anchored in some crazy way so that it couldn’t swing bow-into-wind? I haven’t seen such evidence, which means the shipbuilder’s theory is complete nonsense, and he knows it.
Like a plane crash, it's a cascade of event/errors, not 1 single thing, and, without contradicting evidence present, this explanation is quite plausible. Human error frequently contributes to disasters, if not outright causes them.
Aren’t the best murders the ones that look just like stupid accidents? Agatha Christie could have fun with this one.
Las Vegas odds say a horrible alcohol related incident.
The festive activity to entertain in the ball room, drop anchor and party.
Heck with what the weather man said. No hands on deck!
Agree, the arrogant rich.
I live in the land of 10,000 lakes.
Have been a witness to just about all the wealthy boat harbors.
They may float their expensive boats on the water...
But drink vastly amounts of things with more "fun" added than any H20.
Human error (intentional or not is the question).
Intentional human error? What is that--negligent manslaughter, or plain murder? If any of the crew members are among the survivors the local Italian prosecutor is probably looking into it.
I’m going with “sabotage”.
Maybe, but what's the motive? Hewlitt Packard just lost a big lawsuit to the ship's owner, so naturally HP would be upset with him, but how would killing the guy help HP? It could actually hurt the company, even if they did it and they get away with it. What other potential contractors or business partners would wish to do a profitable deal with HP now, knowing if HP gets butt-hurt they will possibly murder the offending party and his family? I hope we find out who else the dead guy did wrong.
Or a combination of design flaw and human error. The massive mast, a consequence of ego and probably ignorance rather than sound marine architecture, created tremendous windage and a powerful lever. With no fixed ballast keel and the swing keel up going beam to the wind in heavy conditions apparently caused a knockdown severe enough to flood the cabin, at which point stability is quickly lost. If the vessel was struck by an extreme squall the crew should have had the engine running, prepared to power bow to the wind, and the keel down in case the anchor dragged. Otherwise with the swing keel up wind load levering against the rudder would force the vessel beam to. If on the other hand they really were hit suddenly and unexpectedly on the beam by a waterspout, precluding the opportunity to react, then unsound design may well be the proximate cause.
Nothing I've heard suggests an intentional act.
Look at who was on board and you'll have your answer.
Directed energy weapon?
No. The weather reports sent everyone home except these inexperienced and probably over-confident rich people.
Besides, if the idea is to take someone out then science fiction "weapons" which have never been demonstrated publicly (weapons are far more useful under the threat of use instead of actual use) are about the least reliable and messiest way to do it. And rich people are far easier to manipulate when they are threatened with bankruptcy and a disruption in their way of life versus outright just killing them. Easier to manipulate the use of their funds, too.
If every time some natural phenomena occurs the public ascribes it to man-made devices and effects (see "climate change") then they've got you right where they want you, believing that if the virgins (sadly, children now) aren't sacrificed on their altars they will call forth the fires and floods.
If you were actually paying attention you would know that the former head of the CIA, John Brennan, admitted in a talk to the Council of Foreign Relations, that the government does indeed have weather weapons.
And I guess you think the fires in Maui were just an act of nature.
Please share this from the government of Canada website.
https://science.gc.ca/site/science/en/safeguarding-your-research/guidelines-and-tools-implement-research-security/emerging-technology-trend-cards/directed-energy-weapons?fbclid=IwY2xjawESDmFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHW7Qbc1qNgO2NC8EnJ7JQ_BecdB4AtjrxvgwKytYUv-ROoF80TNZsG_Kgw_aem_zaJc6sNqVCR40XUNSYJlIA
Wow! We're not in Kansas anymore
Crazy eh? Please share and get word out that it’s real.
What does it state in-a-nutshell?
Let’s see if substack censors the stuff I post like facebook and other sites.
80% of recent events had abnormalities in the jet stream. This is the most accurate one I can find and it’s censored everywhere where I tried posting. Maybe they will allow it now.
https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/global-jetstream#2024/08/23/1200Z/jetstream/surface/level/overlay=jetstream/orthographic=%23google_vignette
It takes time to learn how to interpret it. Use your weather radar to help get the hang of it.
It’s easy to find the “bumps” where they use their machines. Sometimes it’s only on a broken edge of the jet stream.
Trump/vance forced plane landings, Brazil plane crash, and Japan earthquake all had abnormalities in jet stream!
They have weapons everywhere in the world.
Substack doesn't usually censor.
Excellent. It’s showing up.
Kathleen ( and anyone reading). … I forgot to mention regarding the jet stream globe …. The most accurate depiction of the jet stream is the one approximately 5-7 hours behind the actual time.
For example. It’s around 1600 hours now. So the accurate time on the time/date stamp is 1300 hrs that shows the proper data.
Anything after is the forecast it seems which I couldn’t rely on.
And. Here is another link to these machines they use to swath usi in energy and manipulate weather. They have portable machines too. They use different machines together.
( also learned NOTAMS are a great resource to where they are using their machines in questionable areas. The easiest way I found was in Monkey WERX on you tube. It was faster using them than searching on my own. )
So combine everything I posted here and you can see wtf these evil people are doing. Please share this info as I’m not well and can’t get info out hardly. I’m just a grandma that figured this out on my own. Lmao.
And here is super darn link for a laugh. They are all over.
https://superdarn.ca/fov
As you say, former head of CIA. Their entire charter is to deceive. If the US had these insurmountable weapons they wouldn't be getting destroyed in Ukraine. People with zero understanding of science and the laws of thermodynamics (and the very scope of the energy needed to manipulate the weather upon demand) will literally believe anything because it fits their world view. This is flat earth territory.
From the government of Canada website.
If they are acknowledging this then it means the technology is probably 20-30 years ahead of what they will admit.
https://science.gc.ca/site/science/en/safeguarding-your-research/guidelines-and-tools-implement-research-security/emerging-technology-trend-cards/directed-energy-weapons?fbclid=IwY2xjawESDmFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHW7Qbc1qNgO2NC8EnJ7JQ_BecdB4AtjrxvgwKytYUv-ROoF80TNZsG_Kgw_aem_zaJc6sNqVCR40XUNSYJlIA
Not sure I follow your logic. But I would say you maybe haven't had times that evil was around you personally. Evil is what evil does. The devil doesn't bother oppressing people (or ending lives of those) that he already has...and I believe it.
have a read about DEW and there was a waterspout ... I believe him and his co defendant were taken out. Co defendant got hit by a car. https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1825929258092617962
Kind of like the "Ron Brown" plane crash.
Could be?
What a coincidence. Lynch was just cleared of fraud charges along with partner Chamberlain. Chamberlain was struck and killed by a car 2 days before.
Weird coincidence.
Amazing how stuff like that happens.
Anything is possible at this point.
Unfortunately, most accidents of this type are crew error. Sailboats are pretty sable but do have their limits. The same goes for commercial aircraft...like 99% of the time it is pilot error that causes incidents. Just the challenge of traveling on the sea or air. Pax
I will refute your claim that 99% of plane crashes it's pilot error. I have read and watched far too many crash investigations to allow such a claim to stand! Pilot error MAY, or may not, contribute, but in many cases, what crashed the plane was entirely out of the pilots' control, even if they had sufficient time and altitude to figure out what was wrong, and try to correct for it!
While the 99% is an exaggeration, I as an IFR rated pilot pay a lot of attention to incidents. This includes reading NTSB REPORTS as well as looking at to what trusted industry experts have to say. Invariably it is pilot error that leads to incidents. The systems on aircraft (if properly maintained) fail quite infrequently. It is said that an incident is like a chain … break a link and an incident can be avoided. If one reads these NTSB Reports one can see the steps taken or not taken that lead the craft into tera-firma. 🤷♀️
Kind of like pilot error caused JFK Jr's plane to go down?
Keel up, anchors set, all ports open?
Plane with throttle wide open & pointed to the ocean floor? A co-pilot with a mission, I heard, & the reason finding the crash site took so long was that they needed to get the extra body recovered, so that the technique would not be revealed, as it had been done before.
Really, what's happening in our reality? Lots of people wind up dead. The people who know what is going on, for real. Read Whitney Webb's bit about the gang controlling where every vial of C19 juice went, then listen to this-https://youtu.be/TcbuqQd57rY?si=K9dpg9CkZ9yy3Mso
JFK, Jr had no copilot, just himself and 2 passengers, neither even near the controls. He was tired, NOT instrument flight qualified, and flying after dark over water (not a wise plan for a minimally qualified pilot). He lost his horizon and failed to heed or believe his instrument telling him his plane's attitude. Spatial disorientation can occur even in experienced and highly qualified pilots, especially at night over water or in low visibility (heavy cloud) type conditions, indeed, has led to crashes more than once! He filed a flight plan, naming all persons on board for the flight. So much for your "extra body"; it wasn't there on takeoff either.
There's no mystery about JFK Jr.'s plane crash. He was the stereotypical pilot with too much money, too much airplane, and too little training on how to fly it. I'm an instrument-rated pilot with high-performance complex endorsement. People who haven't undergone the training cannot appreciate that flying while relying solely on instruments can be counterintuitive- meaning the instruments are telling you the aircraft is in a descending tight turn but your senses may be telling you something's happening but you can't tell what it is. In that situation, the under-trained pilot attempts a correction that worsens the problem.
The Kennedy family was famous for taking physical risks in the belief the rules didn't apply to them. Another family member was killed throwing a football back and forth while snow-skiing. They had been warned not to, but refused to listen. He plowed into a tree at full speed. FAFO.
https://youtu.be/TcbuqQd57rY?si=K9dpg9CkZ9yy3Mso
Decentralized medicine ~ was that the proper link ?
This has to do with the plans around Covid. It is well worth the time to listen to, & ties into the open assassinations of JFK & RFK.
I realize the opinion I have about the possible cause of JFK Jr's death is a total "conspiracy theory," to use the CIA's mind control terminology, but when an experienced investigator laid it all out in a documentary I saw ages ago, everything clicked. Not saying I know it is true, it just answered some very troubling questions, imo, about his death & was 100% plausible.
This video may vanish, I suggest you download it and save.
I saw the 2 documentaries the movie maker put out and they were very interesting!!!
He only used documents and reporting. He used real information and pieced stuff together. It’s worth watching. It contradicts many things we were told.
Thanks for mentioning it. I think the names were
Dark Legacy 1 and Dark Legacy 2
Yes, I believe that is what I saw, and it was both totally believable & very interesting.
Maybe they hired a diversity crew.
We have a very large sailboat (40m, not 56!), and so have a couple of very knowledgeable friends. PNs are gorgeous but sit very high. The forward salon was virtually all above the water line, so very large. The wife (and owner) reported hearing glass breaking. If she heard the forward salon windows, the salon would have taken on water in a way that the boat could not have righted itself. This seems to me to be plausible. It is implausible to me that a crew of 10 or so would not have had someone standing watch. By all accounts that storm was very sudden and if its dark, impossible to see.
At least one crew member told the passengers to go to sleep in their cabins instead of being in the assembly area. Crew not doing standard storm prep procedures and frequent walk-around checks is simple incompetence or willful murder. I'd want blood tests and detailed physical and mental exams on all the crew.
Like the Jab and the Titanic before that. UNAVOIDABLY UNSAFE.....
When no one is watching out for others, not doing their jobs.
Now where have we seen this over and over again? Hmmmmm......
You mean a boat that foundered in a storm foundered because of the storm – helped along by the complacency of billionaires and the mediocrity and/or deference of the people who orbit around them?!
Tosh and pshaw, I say! That’s what the CIA wants us to talk about, rather than their secret submarine fiberglass magnets.
The keel up part is the most questionable. If it has a retractable keel, then it will be much less stable with the keel up. But if they're worried about the depth being too shallow and the keel hitting aground, then I can understand. I'll have to read more...
Stop with all the conspiracy theories. All that sounds ridiculous in this situation.
Sure, the guy is gonna defend the ship he built. And it probably was a very safe vessel.
But he’s going deep into conjecture and fantasy, and blaming it on people who may not have done anything wrong. It’s extremely disrespectful to those who are no longer here to defend themselves.
One of the many glaring inaccuracies in his statement is in his description of the boat being pushed sideways by the wind and heeling radically, taking on water through open doors.
Except that it would never happen that way.
When a sailboat is anchored off-shore, it’s always anchored from the bow, and therefore it’s always bow-to-wind/current no matter what direction the wind is coming from.
So is there evidence that the boat was anchored in some crazy way so that it couldn’t swing bow-into-wind? I haven’t seen such evidence, which means the shipbuilder’s theory is complete nonsense, and he knows it.
Like a plane crash, it's a cascade of event/errors, not 1 single thing, and, without contradicting evidence present, this explanation is quite plausible. Human error frequently contributes to disasters, if not outright causes them.
Darwin doesn't care if you're rich.
I suspect the captain and crew overlooked the risks from the storm because they felt their yacht was invincible, just like the Titanic.