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The ladder in the photo is a step ladder, no shorter than 12 feet. You need a truck with a rack to carry it.

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I was going to say that’s no 5 ft ladder

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It seems someone puts out this story to CNN hoping people are dumb enough not to notice… Reading about the 5’ ladder immediately raised my suspicion that it’s bs and obviously proved by the photo.

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The HD clerk could have rung it up wrong? Just sayin’

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No it’s all computer scanned based upon its upc code.

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i was refereing to the clerk ringing up a 12 foot ladder as a 5 ft ladder. clerks only scan the upc code and it rarely makes a mistake.

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Yes, I got that and I agree. I figured it must be the cops' ladder, and it looks like he did buy one and stuck it elsewhere.

The link is to an image. I am not convinced of whose body was killed with a headshot yet. It's not like I don't trust the FBI's word, but...

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People who watch CNN would absolutely believe it!

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It's a collapsible, extendible ladder. Any building center carries them.

Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gorilla-Ladders-18-ft-Reach-MPXW-Aluminum-Multi-Position-Ladder-with-Wheels-375-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IAA-Duty-Rating-GLMPX-18W-2/313969470

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Did you look at the ladder in the picture? It’s not like your ladder at all.

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Yes indeed. The ladder in the picture is more like the ladders they use to pick fruit off tall trees. Those are not collapsible.

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It's an example of type of such folding, extendible ladder. You must not spend much time in building centers of do construction. Otherwise you'd be familiar with the concept

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I apologize for being terse. I hate to give cover to a bogus story and a situation that screams “inside job.”

The ladder leaning against the building is not a folding ladder…and most importantly, it’s way more than a 5 foot ladder. The point is that that 127 lb kid could not carry a high powered rifle, many rounds of ammo, his back pack, and a 12 ft ladder any distance (or in a compact vehicle)…especially without being seen by the Secret Service or police who were guarding and “locking down” the area.

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I didn't say there was "inside aud" to him. Police reported he made stop to Home Depot purchased a ladder 🪜 and gun shop purchased 50 rounds of ammo that day . If you want to be annal about it, it's up to you. The photo is not exceptionally clear at that distance....

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This story is BS. The details are either made up or there is a coverup in progress .

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They make folding ladders; roof inspections use them all the time.

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Yes but they aren't tapered like that. the legs are parallel which allow them to collapse.

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Yes. I own one also. It is only tapered at the bottom, the telescoping portion requires parallel legs (obviously) . The ladder in the picture is tapered along the full length, this is obviously a fixed length ladder.

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I would say that it is probably this 10-ft ladder from HomeDepot becuase in the image with the ladder we can see that the ladder has 8 visible steps. This 10-ft ladder has 9-steps and the next smallest size, 8-ft, has 7 steps. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-10-ft-Fiberglass-Step-Ladder-14-ft-Reach-Height-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-Duty-Rating-NXT1A10/100664452

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It looks as if the police ladder was left in place, doesn't it?

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It'd need to be taller than 5', to reach the roof.

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I’m reminded of that South Park episode. The people who make up these stories should hire someone like Mel Gibson. He knows how to tell a story.

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no you don't need a truck.

(a) nobody ever said that 12'ish foot ladder in the photo is the one he bought and brought.

(b) yes you absolutely can fit a 12 foot ladder in a hyundai sonata. i did something similar just last weekend. fold down the seats, move the front seat forward, gives you almost 80 inches, leaves less than 6 feet hanging out the back. not ideal, i only had to drive a few blocks, but i've done worse things.

again, unconfirmed (and unlikely) that the ladder pictured was his ladder. home depot receipt said 5 foot ladder, which he maybe didn't even need to use if law enforcement left a ladder in place. either way, yes he could theoretically fit either size ladder in his car.

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And the IED's in the back seat too? (folded down right?)

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There are folding, extendible ladders that collapse down to 5 ft for transport, carrying that extend out to 12-18 ft. Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gorilla-Ladders-18-ft-Reach-MPXW-Aluminum-Multi-Position-Ladder-with-Wheels-375-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IAA-Duty-Rating-GLMPX-18W-2/313969470

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It could be foldable, but it is very hard to tell. I searched Home Depot for ladders, and I specifically searched in the town where the shooter lived, according to news reports.

The image of the ladder best matched this, as shown in the link below, but it is not a Home Depot ladder. Maybe another store? Or, the ladder purchase was a lie.

https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/aluminum-pipe-ladder-11130894691.html

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Is it possible he needed the 5’ ladder to access the second rise? The first ladder only gets him atop the lowest roof section, but the lowest eave of the top roof section is possibly more than an easy climb with a rifle, say 4’ to 5’? But there is no second ladder in the photos.

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One big important question: What PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATION was he on?

These type of meds seem to be a common denominator in these so called “lone gunmen” shootings. They absolutely numb one’s feelings and allow a person to act with calm.

Our youth are all being poisoned with haxxines, toxic food & environments, & psych meds!

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Young male shooter with parents in “psychological helping professions” made me immediately wonder about ssri meds — quite apart from all the security issues

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Who were his MK-Ultra handlers, and how did they "handle" him?

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this type of kid, from what little we already know, seems like anideal MK target, not that the CIA does that sort of thing anymore, scouts’ honor😉

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SSRI’s make one suicidal and/or homicidal in a certain % of people.

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Also, guaranteed he was chatting online with federal catfish pretending to earnestly share his animus and goading him to act.

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Definitely the most likely scenario which is why they are claiming his phone provided no clues…

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That is true

And he certainly fits the narrative of ‘socially unsuccessful marginalized lone male’ shooter …

But are we to really believe a kid did all that

Outsmarting the police and secret service which had to number in the dozens

Drive up a huge ass ladder in his sonata

Set it up

And Get up on top of that building

All unseen …

In what I’ve heard described as a ‘police staging area…’

Where are the security cameras on the American glass building??? How come no one is talking about that?

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Truthseeker, note that I stated “so called ‘lone gunman’.” I acknowledge others probably participated.

My point is psych meds very well have been the way in which Crooks was manipulated into playing a role in Trumps assassination & initially being the scapegoat.

I know this is not the subject of John’s article, but we need to recognize and talk about how MANY people in America are being convinced to take these destructive mind altering meds. Our kids brains are being damaged from birth mostly by allopathic medicine and they are struggling to function. So then their parents or they themselves when adults look for relief and what they get from Prinary Care Physicians & Psychiatrist is quick fix neuro toxic meds that have horrible side effects. Indifference, emotional numbness, restlessness, agitation, suicidal thoughts are some.

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He was clearly not “unseen”. Hell, there’s video of him

On the roof with rifle. Multiple

Videos of people scream to police about him.

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SSRI’s.

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Sourced from the Datura plant. Check Vice news story on drug from Columbia that allows for total takeover of the mind of another while they are able to walk and talk and be directed to do anything.

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Training him and treating him as a "valued team member" would make him feel invulnerable, too.

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That ladder ain’t fitting in a sedan. That’s at least a 9 foot ladder. There are 9 rungs. And it’s angled meaning it’s not a collapsible ladder.

The Hyundai Sonata is a four door sedan, not a hatchback even. Tell us another story.

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Beat me to it! They think we're stupid.

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Home Depot carries ladders like that. They fold back on themselves and the narrow part to the ladder can be extended out... Multi-configurations

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The extension part on those ladders are straight. There’s no straight section on the ladder in the picture. It looks like an a-frame ladder.

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So, my understanding is that the last time CNN aired a Trump event, prior to this past Saturday, was May 10, 2023 when viewers could tune in to the Town Hall at St. Anselm College in NH.

TPTB went scorched earth on CNN for giving Trump air-time. Lesson learned, no more televised Trump time via CNN.

Until… CNN changed their strategy and chose to be in Butler PA to air his rally live.

Now, CNN is reporting that a 5’ ladder was purchased by the assassin and that he brought it in his Hyundai.

And, we’re supposed to believe CNN’s reporting because they would *never* (heavy sarcasm) fabricate, embellish, or corroborate a story that aligns with a narrative they want their audience to desperately believe.

Uh huh. 🤔

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Another interesting factoid - ALL of Biden’s SS are males.

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Yes

I did notice Trump’s detail had a lot!! of women… who needed to reapply their sunglasses after getting him in the SUV

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Even if the women were the most skilled, these women were too short to be able to cover the much taller DJT.

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One couldn’t reholster her sidearm. Definitely not the most skilled.

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She looked like Melissa McCarthy in some spare zany movie....DEI is a tax on excellence.... Those women agents fit the perfect dei analogy,- car has a flat tire and you deflate the other 3 - there, fixed. That is DEI

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I was using a hypothetical. I saw how the one could not reholster her firearm. There was an audio heard with one woman saying “What do we do? What do we do?” To be fair, not sure exactly why there would be that confusion.

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That’s what I’d heard too

What luck! (Cue scarcasm…)

CNN was at this rally…

Vaccines

Elections

Attempted assassinations … are all the leading causes of coincidences

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Don’t forget Roger Stone’s and others predawn home raids and arrests.

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I was more shocked that the "BBC" were at the rally. The BBC guy who took the red-head's story. To me it looked far more like that classic "Osama Bin Laden did it" 3 seconds after the towers went down.

The "BBC" took it to the world.

That whole thing is such a propaganda meme.

That's why I wondered about a second shooter - there are a number of reports of two shooters.

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Good catch on the CNN broadcast coverage timeline.

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I suspect that Crooks had a friend, who was likely an undercover FBI or CIA agent, who was radicalizing him. I think it would be worthwhile to interview people at the shooting range that Crooks went to, to see if he went there with anyone else.

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What do you mean?!? We don't want any actual investigation muddying up the cover up.

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Wait till they release the magic bullet theory with Mayor Pete as the head of the new warren commission

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if we could all get the kind of "good luck" the shooter is supposed to have benefited from in scouting out the area first, penetrating it in real time while supposedly in control of local police and getting off a fusillade of bullets BEFORE a secret service sniper FINALLY killed him, we'd all getting rich in Vegas. For all that kid did without beings stopped before he fired....plot!! conspiracy!! even a movie wouldn't get away with all those law enforcement failures...it would be too absurd.

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From Peak Prosperity:

"Where did that ladder come from? It’s a 10 foot fiberglass step-ladder! Those are pretty heavy and awkward. Did he have that huge thing strapped to the top of his car? Did he steal it off a truck in the parking lot? Is it an American Glass ladder somehow? There is no ladder there in the Google street view from November. I don’t think it belongs there. Somebody must know something about that ladder. Doesn’t American Glass have any cameras in their lot?? Doesn’t anybody have a dashcam?"

Another person wrote in response: "My company owns a number of such ladders. They are heavy and very hard for a single person to handle. Very hard. A single person carrying one and setting it would have issues getting it past the trees gracefully to say the least. That is a person who has experience carrying one and knows the balance points and techniques for handling them. Without a rifle slung across their back. We almost always task two persons to move and set such a ladder. My son who manages our field work is 6’-4", a fit fire fighter with 20 years experience (he knows ladders), and a generally really strong individual saw this and immediately commented that guy had help. I’m inclined to agree with him. Or, if it just happened to be there for " some reason" it would be an amazing concidential opportunity. Even more amazing it was noticed behind the trees by the purp. From the picture it appears to be a fiberglass ladder…not something you leave unattended in the sun for long periods as the UV deteriorates the fiberglass."

A third person added "I believe I heard in a video that it is attached to the building."

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If attached, that isn’t common practice, (I would like to see how that was done!) and UV exposure does deteriorate Fiberglas over time. Seems an unreliable account.

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If it were attached to the building one would think the USSS scout team would have noticed when the did their prep…🙄

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Well according to dei Pepsi security dame, the roof was too slopey to put a team up there, so her crack advance team may have thought the ladder too vertically

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And the two snipers on the other roof? Too slopey too? That video shot from the side by the people watching the shooter go up the roof didn't seem to see him sliding backwards at all. And he managed to shoot Trump from the too slopey roof as well.

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News reports said shooter did not have ID on him.

FBI identified him through DNA.

WTF? Why did the FBI have his DNA?

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They get the DNA of everyone starring in Blackrock commercials.

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lol

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🤣

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Just a coincidence I’m sure.

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They knew him from the suggestion calls :)

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I drive a 2915 Hyundai Sonata. NO way I can get 5 ft ladder OR folding 12 ft ladder into my Sonata. folding ladder that size is very heavy and makes NOISE when locking rungs into place. There should be a receipt from store that identifies the exact ladder to either prove or DISPROVE ladder’s reach. Sounds bogus to me.

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a 2915 sonata? does it fly? or teleport.

just kidding.

look again at your trunk. fold down the seats, push the front seats forward. yes absolutely you can fit either ladder. the 12 foot would hang out about 6 feet. but nobody said he bought a 12 foot ladder, the ladder in the photo is likely something law enforcement was using. they obviously bring lots of ladders.

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It was probably the ladder that was supposed to be used by law enforcement to get to their perch. Except the AC and refreshments were calling harder.

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5 foot ladder my a$$

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Well that CNN reports this, tells me it’s bogus.

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The list of failures goes on and on.

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almost like some insiders rolled out the red carpet for him...

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Remember the guy in Utah who wrote threatening messages on social media about Biden? Remind me what happened to him?

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Good further explanation of incompetence and possible cover up insured at the scene afterward.

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study the picture carefully. That is NOT a telescoping nor folding ladder; too long to fit in a Hyundai Sonata

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