This country was highjacked by the abc agencies decades ago. It became increasingly obvious to anyone not living under a rock since the collapse of the Soviets. Now it’s blindingly obvious. Since the 2020 electoral fraud the USA Presidency is a global laughing stock while the neocon deep state running things is truly evil. Ich bin kein amricaner.
Slow Joe Biden and his neocon handlers are responsible for wrecking Ukraine and killing, injuring and displacing its people. Zelensky is a corrupt, cross-dressing, coke-addled panhandling bum and neocon stooge with an exceedingly large bank account in Cyprus and mansions all over the world - courtesy of US taxpayers.
Cross-dresser? Bullshit. Zelenskyy is a principled lawyer and reformer who has put his life on the line for his country. He has the support of 77% of Ukrainians.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you but the term “neocon handlers” is often used to go after real “conservatives” per se. I’d rather names of neocon’s like Kristol, Will, Romney etc be stated.
It’s somewhat bizarre that a number of members here have done their due diligence with regard to vaccines, but continue to support MSM and US government propaganda with regard to Ukraine.
Bizarre indeed. I guess it illustrates the point that nothing really matters to Americans until it hits them where they live. I'll bet a few of them even have little Ukrainian flags on their Twitter accounts. Believe it or not, I even saw a Ukrainian flag on one of the trucks in the US convoy last year.
I find it bizarre that a renowned cardiologist would turn his medical site over to a hot head who has turned it into a political site for the tribal warfare that besets America. I don’t believe America’s MSM any more than I believe Russian propaganda.
Supporting Ukraine is the one thing Biden has done right.
Supporting Nazis is the one thing that Biden has done right, according to you. The fact that you don’t understand what Bandera followers are would indicate you’ve not done much due diligence in this regard. And if you don’t like the current discussion, stop posting and move on to the ‘medical information’ that you prefer.
If it weren’t for the traitors in MSM fake news, the fools in D.C. and their globalist allies could never done any of this to us. I get so angry when I hear people saying “the people have to be awakened first,” but I see clearly that it’s just not their fault. A lot of us had no idea that, for the last at least 100 years, we have been enslaved, brainwashed, infiltrated, deceived, and lied to continuously, and elections have been stolen for years. It’s a brilliant plan, but ours is better. After watching our military over the years and even having a veteran as a father, I rest assured that we have the most brilliant, strategic minds, White Hats, plus millions of Americans who aren’t going to roll over easily and let our country go down. For me, this game’s not over till the fat lady sings. All I can say is that, if you know now what is happening, this is your fight, everybody’s fight, and if I know anything, we owe it to the children to not let this happen. They don’t deserve it. And those who are going after our children, go to Hell where you belong. Let children be children. Leave them alone.
It is also obvious that a lot of alternative sources are Russian propaganda hitting people's sweet spots and presenting a bit of truth spun into a huge deception.
We need to be wary of all sources and not assume one side is good and the other is bad. There are bad actors and groups in multiple places that often they fund "both sides".
To a neocon, everything, every fact that contradicts their approved narrative is Russian propaganda. I used to be a neocon in the sense of not knowing or caring what our government did “over there” as long it didn’t affect me. But 2020 was the year I woke up. It took a phony pandemic to do it but now when you know, you know. There’s no going back. May Russia prevail against the West’s plans to destroy her. She deserves to survive. America? Canada? I’m not so sure.
It is sad when one start to hope that the US dollar collapses and loses its reserve currenvy status. I have fantasies of the US Empire being humbled, yet in some amazing Providential way the Republic survives and is rejuvenated and The Constitution once again honoured.
Yes we will be humbled when the dollar collapses and no one will buy our debt. But we have even bigger, more systemic problems now. We are a service economy. We no long produce tangible goods or commodities for export. Our agricultural base has been compromised by sale to foreign investors and large supranational agro interests. We have a crumbling infrastructure and no means of financing needed improvements. But worst of all in my opinion is that we are no longer a people with a national identity. We are no longer united as a people. We have two essentially different and opposing visions of what this country represents and how it should face future challenges. Faith in the old institutions has evaporated as social Marxism has become the ascendant controlling ideology. There are many good people here but the power no longer lies with us, if it ever did. The integrity of the electoral process has been compromised with our new “voting seasons” among other irregularities. We are in for some difficult days and if I did not have faith in a sovereign God I would be in utter despair.
I haven't lost hope in America. There's a lot of good people whose voices haven't been heard yet. There time is coming. As John Kenneth Galbraith once said, "All successful revolutions are the kicking in of a rotten door" and this one's already off its hinges.
Unfortunately, we can’t do this without doing away with the Central Banks and the Federal Reserve. It’s going to be painful for many, but if we’re going to fix everything that’s broken, that’s where we have to begin. If we go all the way back to the Titanic, we can see that three prominent gentlemen on that ship that were opposed to the new system the richest of the rich had planned for us. I’ve read so many different things and learned so much over the years that it boggles my mind. There’s so much that happened that we knew nothing about. Some people won’t be able to comprehend everything that’s been done to us. President JFK was murdered because he wanted to change what had been done to our country, and POTUS45 has had numerous attempts on his life. I also hear Barack Hussein Soetoro is going to go back to Kenya for about a year. If that’s true, be afraid…
I’ve only become aware of everything in the last eight years. There are many people who’ve been awake for decades, so the good thing is, because of citizen journalists, a lot of people have been redpilled. I have them to thank. It pisses me off more when people know but choose to ignore it. This is truly the fight of our lives.
Worse than no attempt at peace, the Minsk accords was used as a means to better prepare the West for their proxy war to kill a lot of Ukrainians by throwing them at Russia.
Per Hollander, pororshenko, Nuland, and StrAngela Merkel, Macron, and even elenskies I believe all admitted it, and then scAnnalina ber Bock said they the Germans were at war w Russia, but the other dude from Germany has misgivings about actual German boots in former future little Russia....
And then Biden blew that pipeline too to ensure war, war is peace....
And you are defending Nazis. Imagine that. Ukraine has been ethnically cleansing Russian ethnics in Ukraine for a decade. It’s nice to know that you either approve of this, or are totally unaware of the Ukrainian situation.
Being controlled by a fascist group….Azov, the Right Sector (whom you apparently never heard of), etc, does not make you a communist. You obviously have absolutely NO information about the ideology in Ukraine. Stop spewing and do some research. At least look up their hero, Stefan Bandera.
Yeah, but whose propaganda? It's not CGI pal. They actually did that. When was the last time you saw foreign senators and foreign state department officials addressing a crowd of protesters in the USA or deciding who future US leaders would be?
Killing 15,000 people in Donbass, and dismembering Ukrainian children for organ sales lacks justification? Not to mention biowarfare labs. Get real, Azov NaZi Terence G. Gain!
Do some research Terence and don't believe MSM. When the Berlin wall came down, the West promised not to move a meter further East. Where is NATO now? Wake up for god's sake. NATO has been poking the Russian bear with a big stick for too long and the only motivation can be to provoke and prolong war. Please don't try to defend the indefensible. The evil lives in NATO.
Be careful who you are calling morons. There are some very well informed people on here that are not buying the MSM and you are not one of them. Dr. EG
The area we call Ukraine has been for the last thousand years or so, part of Imperial Russia under the Czars, then the Romanovs, and then the communists. That isn't to say it isn't a country but over 14 million Russians live in the east and the vast majority want to live under Russian control. A partition, cleaving off the Crimea and the other eastern provinces is the best answer and this is what the two parties had agreed to last March, until we blew it up. Short of destroying Russia and its 147 million citizens, they will not give that area up.
The Ukrainians obviously aren’t Russians and all it will take to end the war is driving Russia out of Ukraine. And we are closer to that result than you realize.
Whether Ukraine 'wins' or 'loses,' Washington D.C. will have partially achieved their true aim but the danger is greater than you may imagine. Think of this: in business, a business that makes a stable profit every year is considered a failure. Everything is about growth.
In Washington D.C., maintaining existing spending levels is considered failure. Government must grow because new money flows to new projects creates new monied constituencies. Cuts or curtailment of any existing spending is an unthinkable anathema.
However, there is a problem. Existing spending post 9/11 includes major land warfare. Just to maintain the rentier status quo there must be war. When they closed accounts on Afghanistan, there were billions that needed to be transferred to politically favored parties but no more war pretext. I immediately felt very nervous as that meant Washington needed a war.
But remember the status quo spending levels are not enough! Feeding the existing pigs at the trough is failure. D.C. must grow! That is why we are saber rattling over Taiwan. That is why there are weird articles floated about using special operations forces to deal with cartels in Mexico.
If we imagine US foreign policy as run by insane, greedy and utterly corrupt, demented children, then things start to make sense. They want to push money through black boxes like Ukraine so that it runs back out into the pockets of themselves and their friends and if that means risking global thermonuclear annihilation, well so be it. The deaths of Ukrainians? Oh well. The upending of the post WWII global order and role of the dollar? Well at least they got theirs. Even the great war lover Kissinger seemed to think it was a bit crazy to push toward conflict with China and Russia at the same time. No matter, money must flow.
It is only when we try to understand their actions as if they were sane, rational or based on some sort of idea of national interest or welfare of the people that we become confused. There is no plan except looting the treasury.
The only explanation for the behaviour we are witnessing is a naive belief that Putin won't press the button. That is a gamble I'm not willing to make. He sees NATO's aggression (yes it is and it is unjustified) as an existential threat to Russia so if you morons in NATO want to back a bear in to a corner, you need to be prepared to be ripped apart. I really hope that Washington is the first target.
Russia has made it clear that they will not be the first to use nuclear weapons. That said, should the US start, they will come off the worst for it. Russian civil and air defences will protect at least some of the population. Not so for the US which currently has no defence against Russian missiles. This time around the 'missile gap' is real - not in numbers, but in capability. Also, Russia has Soviet era shelters for about 40 million people. How many shelters does America have?
“They”? So are you a Russian bear? The alternative was sending 100,000 or more young men to their deaths to convince the Japanese to give up. The Japanese didn’t even surrender after Hiroshima.
Seems like I hit a nerve. Better than any other response so far, but still short of the mark.
"As Jordan Peterson points out in his conversation with Utah Senator Mike Lee (published yesterday), the U.S. government has no concept for how this war can be won."
And if they did? Then what? Still going to support your 'thought leaders?' Call me out if you like, but until you call out RFK and RJ you're just spinning your wheels. Courageous Discourse? More like Cognitive Dissonance.
Russia tried for years to avoid this conflict (via Minsk Agreements) but DC and Kiev were acting to deceive while continuing to slaughter innocent ethnic Russians in the Donbas. Russia is obviously going to prevail now that they've been compelled to take military action. DC, driven by its demented hatred of Russia because of Russia's rejection of their control, is of course just using Ukraine and Ukrainian bodies to try and damage Russia, which isn't working. And the murderous authoritarians installed in Kiev during the 2014 coup will continue to send Ukrainian soldiers to their slaughter on the front as long as they can keep their snouts buried deep in DC's money trough.
I am so TIRED of our RULERS. I am TIRED OF BEING RULED ...especially by unelected BUREAUCRATS, who just today announced restrictions on gas car exhaust to "HELP THE ELECTRIC CAR INDUSTRY".
I DIDN"T VOTE ON THAT. I DIDN"T VOTE ON WAR WITH UKRAINE. NO ONE HAS TOLD ME HOW IT IS IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST.
WE need to DO something, and not just go on with our little lives hopeing someone will stop the madness.
I haven’t watched the video yet, but will say, based on other recent things I’ve seen Jordan Peterson do or say, that my humble opinion is that he should have stuck with the ‘12 steps’ to being a better individual, or his platform about pronouns and free speech. I haven’t been too impressed with his political opinions. And those weird suits that he has become accustomed to wearing is just that…weird. The more I delve into him and his recent background, the more I think that there is something amiss.
Yes, I’ve seen that also. Peterson seems to be a very fragile guy for some reason. Far different than when he first came on the internet. And his story of a breakdown from a meat diet, going to Russia for assistance, etc., is just too strange.
I’ve always thought the UN and NATO were mistakes myself. Saw the immigration crisis coming in the 80s and watched it get worse and worse. Europe has been destroyed! We’re next!!!
My Polish relatives disagree with you. Europe is fighting back and is united behind the effort to oust imperialist Russia from Ukraine. We are not next unless we fail to stop the influence in America of Russia’s senior partner.
Stop making unfounded statements and start providing evidence to the claims you are making. Just because you heard something on CNN or MSNBC doesn't make it real. They are all controlled by the same cabal acting as puppet masters to the current evil administration. Biden hasn't got the intelligence to conceive of anything. He is so corrupt, he has been bought/blackmailed in to doing what he is doing. History will eventually reveal the truth but regardless of what I think or say, do your own research and stop believing the shit MSM puts out.
I am a conservative. I don’t listen to CNN or MSNBC. I do listen to Fox and the BBC and experts like Jack Keane and Keith Kellogg as well as Ukrainians and Poles. Would you support Ukraine if Trump was POTUS?
I would call it what is is. Supplying Ukraine with weaponry which will never be used by America to help Ukraine successfully defend itself against the imperialism of totalitarian Russia. This is the best U. S. investment since the Louisiana Purchase. Ending Russian imperialism without having to put one combat boot on the ground.
Strange that a good portion of the weapons that the US has provided has either wound up on the black market, Nigeria, etc. Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. The US went in, in 2014, overthrew their elected president and put a US puppet into his place. Do yourself a favor and actually try researching what you DON’T believe. You’ll find it compelling.
THAT IS NOT OUR FUCKING JOB OR IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST. WHAT THE HELL IS RUSSIAN IMPERIALISM? THEY COULD HAVE BEEN OUR ALLY AGAINST THE WEF AND CHINA YOU ...I won't say it, but you need to stop listening to the propoganda.
We have NO STRATEGIC interest or business in UKRAINE. And they are NOT A DAMN DEMOCRACY.
Terence, by any measure, including the shutting down of opposition parties and outlawing them, the arrest and jail of newpeople, the rounding up and arrest of nuns and priests, and the overthrow by our own CIA of the democratically elected president years ago, no effing way is this a democratic country. Zelensky is a puppet and soror and the CIA control Ukraine. Wake up.
Your checks are signed by Bellingcat right? No one could be this misinformed unless they are getting paid to be. Russian imperialism…lmao. Maybe buy a mirror and see what America’s imperialism looks like. Right now it’s occupying a third of Syria and stealing its oil.
lol..the bbc, guardian and telegraph get their information from bellingcat. But nice try. Even Trump said that he was keeping troops in Syria to take the oil.
At some point hopefully Peter, you will realize that in spite of what he might say, Jordan Peterson is not on our side and is working for the same globalists that has brought us to our demise. If you doubt me you must know he is heading up what he calls ARC to counter the WEF narrative but it only takes a little research to discover he is getting funding from George Soros.
This country was highjacked by the abc agencies decades ago. It became increasingly obvious to anyone not living under a rock since the collapse of the Soviets. Now it’s blindingly obvious. Since the 2020 electoral fraud the USA Presidency is a global laughing stock while the neocon deep state running things is truly evil. Ich bin kein amricaner.
Slow Joe Biden and his neocon handlers are responsible for wrecking Ukraine and killing, injuring and displacing its people. Zelensky is a corrupt, cross-dressing, coke-addled panhandling bum and neocon stooge with an exceedingly large bank account in Cyprus and mansions all over the world - courtesy of US taxpayers.
Cross-dresser? Bullshit. Zelenskyy is a principled lawyer and reformer who has put his life on the line for his country. He has the support of 77% of Ukrainians.
How could you possibly not know about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FNDKdptBRY
or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc
or even this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9smD823aE0
I am aware of the lies. You are very dishonest. Before he became a politician he was an actor.
Can you say TROLL!?
Trudeau too.. except its only his desperately obvious desperation for elusive self-importance that makes him any different.
“Neocon handlers” of a Democrat Party President? What are you smoking?
Neuland, wife of Kagan, is not neocon? What are you smoking?
You haven't been paying attention; the situation was obvious when the neocons started supporting Killary for president. Party lines don't mean squat.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you but the term “neocon handlers” is often used to go after real “conservatives” per se. I’d rather names of neocon’s like Kristol, Will, Romney etc be stated.
It’s somewhat bizarre that a number of members here have done their due diligence with regard to vaccines, but continue to support MSM and US government propaganda with regard to Ukraine.
Bizarre indeed. I guess it illustrates the point that nothing really matters to Americans until it hits them where they live. I'll bet a few of them even have little Ukrainian flags on their Twitter accounts. Believe it or not, I even saw a Ukrainian flag on one of the trucks in the US convoy last year.
Ill bet some truckers with flags couldnt find Ukraine on a map.
I find it bizarre that a renowned cardiologist would turn his medical site over to a hot head who has turned it into a political site for the tribal warfare that besets America. I don’t believe America’s MSM any more than I believe Russian propaganda.
Supporting Ukraine is the one thing Biden has done right.
Supporting Nazis is the one thing that Biden has done right, according to you. The fact that you don’t understand what Bandera followers are would indicate you’ve not done much due diligence in this regard. And if you don’t like the current discussion, stop posting and move on to the ‘medical information’ that you prefer.
.....not!
If it weren’t for the traitors in MSM fake news, the fools in D.C. and their globalist allies could never done any of this to us. I get so angry when I hear people saying “the people have to be awakened first,” but I see clearly that it’s just not their fault. A lot of us had no idea that, for the last at least 100 years, we have been enslaved, brainwashed, infiltrated, deceived, and lied to continuously, and elections have been stolen for years. It’s a brilliant plan, but ours is better. After watching our military over the years and even having a veteran as a father, I rest assured that we have the most brilliant, strategic minds, White Hats, plus millions of Americans who aren’t going to roll over easily and let our country go down. For me, this game’s not over till the fat lady sings. All I can say is that, if you know now what is happening, this is your fight, everybody’s fight, and if I know anything, we owe it to the children to not let this happen. They don’t deserve it. And those who are going after our children, go to Hell where you belong. Let children be children. Leave them alone.
Well it’s been obvious to me the media have been corrupted for decades. Doesn’t take a genius to see what’s right in front of your face.
It is also obvious that a lot of alternative sources are Russian propaganda hitting people's sweet spots and presenting a bit of truth spun into a huge deception.
We need to be wary of all sources and not assume one side is good and the other is bad. There are bad actors and groups in multiple places that often they fund "both sides".
Said the poster who repeats MSM talking points.
Such as...
"Moscow wants the return of its empire and those formerly subjugated recoil at returning to slavery."
To a neocon, everything, every fact that contradicts their approved narrative is Russian propaganda. I used to be a neocon in the sense of not knowing or caring what our government did “over there” as long it didn’t affect me. But 2020 was the year I woke up. It took a phony pandemic to do it but now when you know, you know. There’s no going back. May Russia prevail against the West’s plans to destroy her. She deserves to survive. America? Canada? I’m not so sure.
It is sad when one start to hope that the US dollar collapses and loses its reserve currenvy status. I have fantasies of the US Empire being humbled, yet in some amazing Providential way the Republic survives and is rejuvenated and The Constitution once again honoured.
Maybe a pie in the sky sort of dream . .
Yes we will be humbled when the dollar collapses and no one will buy our debt. But we have even bigger, more systemic problems now. We are a service economy. We no long produce tangible goods or commodities for export. Our agricultural base has been compromised by sale to foreign investors and large supranational agro interests. We have a crumbling infrastructure and no means of financing needed improvements. But worst of all in my opinion is that we are no longer a people with a national identity. We are no longer united as a people. We have two essentially different and opposing visions of what this country represents and how it should face future challenges. Faith in the old institutions has evaporated as social Marxism has become the ascendant controlling ideology. There are many good people here but the power no longer lies with us, if it ever did. The integrity of the electoral process has been compromised with our new “voting seasons” among other irregularities. We are in for some difficult days and if I did not have faith in a sovereign God I would be in utter despair.
I haven't lost hope in America. There's a lot of good people whose voices haven't been heard yet. There time is coming. As John Kenneth Galbraith once said, "All successful revolutions are the kicking in of a rotten door" and this one's already off its hinges.
Keep kicking brother. Don't give up.
Unfortunately, we can’t do this without doing away with the Central Banks and the Federal Reserve. It’s going to be painful for many, but if we’re going to fix everything that’s broken, that’s where we have to begin. If we go all the way back to the Titanic, we can see that three prominent gentlemen on that ship that were opposed to the new system the richest of the rich had planned for us. I’ve read so many different things and learned so much over the years that it boggles my mind. There’s so much that happened that we knew nothing about. Some people won’t be able to comprehend everything that’s been done to us. President JFK was murdered because he wanted to change what had been done to our country, and POTUS45 has had numerous attempts on his life. I also hear Barack Hussein Soetoro is going to go back to Kenya for about a year. If that’s true, be afraid…
I’ve only become aware of everything in the last eight years. There are many people who’ve been awake for decades, so the good thing is, because of citizen journalists, a lot of people have been redpilled. I have them to thank. It pisses me off more when people know but choose to ignore it. This is truly the fight of our lives.
Worse than no attempt at peace, the Minsk accords was used as a means to better prepare the West for their proxy war to kill a lot of Ukrainians by throwing them at Russia.
Per Hollander, pororshenko, Nuland, and StrAngela Merkel, Macron, and even elenskies I believe all admitted it, and then scAnnalina ber Bock said they the Germans were at war w Russia, but the other dude from Germany has misgivings about actual German boots in former future little Russia....
And then Biden blew that pipeline too to ensure war, war is peace....
Putin begged for peace...
Putin invaded Ukraine without justification. You morons are defending evil.
And you are defending Nazis. Imagine that. Ukraine has been ethnically cleansing Russian ethnics in Ukraine for a decade. It’s nice to know that you either approve of this, or are totally unaware of the Ukrainian situation.
You are defending communists who falsely accuse Zelenskyy, a Jew, of being a Nazi. You are supporting tyranny.
https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2023/04/07/china-drafts-religious-law-mandating-houses-worship-support-communist-party/
Being controlled by a fascist group….Azov, the Right Sector (whom you apparently never heard of), etc, does not make you a communist. You obviously have absolutely NO information about the ideology in Ukraine. Stop spewing and do some research. At least look up their hero, Stefan Bandera.
Research US coup Maidan 2014
Globalresearch.ca
Russian propaganda. Listen to Jack Keane and Keith Kellogg.
Jack Keane and Keith Kellogg are NATO shills.
Try these Americans instead
https://www.youtube.com/@DouglasMacgregorStraightCalls
https://sonar21.com/
Macgregor was a mere battalion commander. He predicted the war on Ukraine would be over within a month. You need better propaganda.
How about the BBC?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHhGEiwCHZE
or the Guardian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw
or Time magazine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy910FG46C4
The BBC is now predicting Ukraine will win.
I did, USA wasn't involved
What do you call this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XNN0Yt6D8
propaganda
Yeah, but whose propaganda? It's not CGI pal. They actually did that. When was the last time you saw foreign senators and foreign state department officials addressing a crowd of protesters in the USA or deciding who future US leaders would be?
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Killing 15,000 people in Donbass, and dismembering Ukrainian children for organ sales lacks justification? Not to mention biowarfare labs. Get real, Azov NaZi Terence G. Gain!
Azov shelling their own citizenry - 14K people killed. Victoria Nuland - 2014 coup.
Do some research Terence and don't believe MSM. When the Berlin wall came down, the West promised not to move a meter further East. Where is NATO now? Wake up for god's sake. NATO has been poking the Russian bear with a big stick for too long and the only motivation can be to provoke and prolong war. Please don't try to defend the indefensible. The evil lives in NATO.
Be careful who you are calling morons. There are some very well informed people on here that are not buying the MSM and you are not one of them. Dr. EG
The area we call Ukraine has been for the last thousand years or so, part of Imperial Russia under the Czars, then the Romanovs, and then the communists. That isn't to say it isn't a country but over 14 million Russians live in the east and the vast majority want to live under Russian control. A partition, cleaving off the Crimea and the other eastern provinces is the best answer and this is what the two parties had agreed to last March, until we blew it up. Short of destroying Russia and its 147 million citizens, they will not give that area up.
Danny Huckabee
The Ukrainians obviously aren’t Russians and all it will take to end the war is driving Russia out of Ukraine. And we are closer to that result than you realize.
Whether Ukraine 'wins' or 'loses,' Washington D.C. will have partially achieved their true aim but the danger is greater than you may imagine. Think of this: in business, a business that makes a stable profit every year is considered a failure. Everything is about growth.
In Washington D.C., maintaining existing spending levels is considered failure. Government must grow because new money flows to new projects creates new monied constituencies. Cuts or curtailment of any existing spending is an unthinkable anathema.
However, there is a problem. Existing spending post 9/11 includes major land warfare. Just to maintain the rentier status quo there must be war. When they closed accounts on Afghanistan, there were billions that needed to be transferred to politically favored parties but no more war pretext. I immediately felt very nervous as that meant Washington needed a war.
But remember the status quo spending levels are not enough! Feeding the existing pigs at the trough is failure. D.C. must grow! That is why we are saber rattling over Taiwan. That is why there are weird articles floated about using special operations forces to deal with cartels in Mexico.
If we imagine US foreign policy as run by insane, greedy and utterly corrupt, demented children, then things start to make sense. They want to push money through black boxes like Ukraine so that it runs back out into the pockets of themselves and their friends and if that means risking global thermonuclear annihilation, well so be it. The deaths of Ukrainians? Oh well. The upending of the post WWII global order and role of the dollar? Well at least they got theirs. Even the great war lover Kissinger seemed to think it was a bit crazy to push toward conflict with China and Russia at the same time. No matter, money must flow.
It is only when we try to understand their actions as if they were sane, rational or based on some sort of idea of national interest or welfare of the people that we become confused. There is no plan except looting the treasury.
The only explanation for the behaviour we are witnessing is a naive belief that Putin won't press the button. That is a gamble I'm not willing to make. He sees NATO's aggression (yes it is and it is unjustified) as an existential threat to Russia so if you morons in NATO want to back a bear in to a corner, you need to be prepared to be ripped apart. I really hope that Washington is the first target.
Russia has made it clear that they will not be the first to use nuclear weapons. That said, should the US start, they will come off the worst for it. Russian civil and air defences will protect at least some of the population. Not so for the US which currently has no defence against Russian missiles. This time around the 'missile gap' is real - not in numbers, but in capability. Also, Russia has Soviet era shelters for about 40 million people. How many shelters does America have?
The United States is not going to use nuclear weapons.
They have in the past, and as Shakespeare pointed out, 'the past is prologue.'
“They”? So are you a Russian bear? The alternative was sending 100,000 or more young men to their deaths to convince the Japanese to give up. The Japanese didn’t even surrender after Hiroshima.
Putin does not have the power to press the button all by himself. Russia isn’t going to commit suicide because of Putin’s miscalculation.
The plan United States and NATO have for how the war in Ukraine could be concluded involves dismembering Russia.
and plundering her resources...
Like they tried once already, which explains the intense hatred of Putin who put a stop to it.
Yes because after all the Russians are pro oil pro growth just like Trump
No. It involves Russia withdrawing from Ukraine.
What; you suggest spraying Donbass down with anthrax?
Seems like I hit a nerve. Better than any other response so far, but still short of the mark.
"As Jordan Peterson points out in his conversation with Utah Senator Mike Lee (published yesterday), the U.S. government has no concept for how this war can be won."
And if they did? Then what? Still going to support your 'thought leaders?' Call me out if you like, but until you call out RFK and RJ you're just spinning your wheels. Courageous Discourse? More like Cognitive Dissonance.
Jordan Peterson has no clue. He should talk to Jack Keane.
Russia tried for years to avoid this conflict (via Minsk Agreements) but DC and Kiev were acting to deceive while continuing to slaughter innocent ethnic Russians in the Donbas. Russia is obviously going to prevail now that they've been compelled to take military action. DC, driven by its demented hatred of Russia because of Russia's rejection of their control, is of course just using Ukraine and Ukrainian bodies to try and damage Russia, which isn't working. And the murderous authoritarians installed in Kiev during the 2014 coup will continue to send Ukrainian soldiers to their slaughter on the front as long as they can keep their snouts buried deep in DC's money trough.
I am so TIRED of our RULERS. I am TIRED OF BEING RULED ...especially by unelected BUREAUCRATS, who just today announced restrictions on gas car exhaust to "HELP THE ELECTRIC CAR INDUSTRY".
I DIDN"T VOTE ON THAT. I DIDN"T VOTE ON WAR WITH UKRAINE. NO ONE HAS TOLD ME HOW IT IS IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST.
WE need to DO something, and not just go on with our little lives hopeing someone will stop the madness.
I haven’t watched the video yet, but will say, based on other recent things I’ve seen Jordan Peterson do or say, that my humble opinion is that he should have stuck with the ‘12 steps’ to being a better individual, or his platform about pronouns and free speech. I haven’t been too impressed with his political opinions. And those weird suits that he has become accustomed to wearing is just that…weird. The more I delve into him and his recent background, the more I think that there is something amiss.
Amazing Polly has a video on Peterson. She says he’s controlled. Very interesting dig.
Yes, I’ve seen that also. Peterson seems to be a very fragile guy for some reason. Far different than when he first came on the internet. And his story of a breakdown from a meat diet, going to Russia for assistance, etc., is just too strange.
The pensive pauses. The furrowed brow. The erudition. It's all an act.
Agreed! Somethings rotten in Denmark! 🤔
I’ve always thought the UN and NATO were mistakes myself. Saw the immigration crisis coming in the 80s and watched it get worse and worse. Europe has been destroyed! We’re next!!!
Yes Germany was destroyed by 3rd world scum and now Biden Obumma are doing it to the USA
My Polish relatives disagree with you. Europe is fighting back and is united behind the effort to oust imperialist Russia from Ukraine. We are not next unless we fail to stop the influence in America of Russia’s senior partner.
Europe will be destroyed if it does not end Russian imperialism.
“U.S. Proxy War AGAINST Russia”.
You people are nuts.
Stop making unfounded statements and start providing evidence to the claims you are making. Just because you heard something on CNN or MSNBC doesn't make it real. They are all controlled by the same cabal acting as puppet masters to the current evil administration. Biden hasn't got the intelligence to conceive of anything. He is so corrupt, he has been bought/blackmailed in to doing what he is doing. History will eventually reveal the truth but regardless of what I think or say, do your own research and stop believing the shit MSM puts out.
I am a conservative. I don’t listen to CNN or MSNBC. I do listen to Fox and the BBC and experts like Jack Keane and Keith Kellogg as well as Ukrainians and Poles. Would you support Ukraine if Trump was POTUS?
Nope
Nutsies
What would you call it?
I would call it what is is. Supplying Ukraine with weaponry which will never be used by America to help Ukraine successfully defend itself against the imperialism of totalitarian Russia. This is the best U. S. investment since the Louisiana Purchase. Ending Russian imperialism without having to put one combat boot on the ground.
Strange that a good portion of the weapons that the US has provided has either wound up on the black market, Nigeria, etc. Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. The US went in, in 2014, overthrew their elected president and put a US puppet into his place. Do yourself a favor and actually try researching what you DON’T believe. You’ll find it compelling.
Ukraine is not as corrupt as Russia or its senior partner.
You are delusional.
THAT IS NOT OUR FUCKING JOB OR IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST. WHAT THE HELL IS RUSSIAN IMPERIALISM? THEY COULD HAVE BEEN OUR ALLY AGAINST THE WEF AND CHINA YOU ...I won't say it, but you need to stop listening to the propoganda.
We have NO STRATEGIC interest or business in UKRAINE. And they are NOT A DAMN DEMOCRACY.
Ukraine is a democracy. Russia invaded because Ukraine is westernizing. You live in dream world. Putin is a totalitarian thug and war criminal.
Terence, by any measure, including the shutting down of opposition parties and outlawing them, the arrest and jail of newpeople, the rounding up and arrest of nuns and priests, and the overthrow by our own CIA of the democratically elected president years ago, no effing way is this a democratic country. Zelensky is a puppet and soror and the CIA control Ukraine. Wake up.
Your checks are signed by Bellingcat right? No one could be this misinformed unless they are getting paid to be. Russian imperialism…lmao. Maybe buy a mirror and see what America’s imperialism looks like. Right now it’s occupying a third of Syria and stealing its oil.
More bs. Syria’s oil fields are negligible and are not controlled by America. Who signs your cheques?
https://www.bbc.com/news/50464561
lol..the bbc, guardian and telegraph get their information from bellingcat. But nice try. Even Trump said that he was keeping troops in Syria to take the oil.
When all else fails, resort to ad hominem.
Typical lawyer (yeah I know... I'm being ironic)
At some point hopefully Peter, you will realize that in spite of what he might say, Jordan Peterson is not on our side and is working for the same globalists that has brought us to our demise. If you doubt me you must know he is heading up what he calls ARC to counter the WEF narrative but it only takes a little research to discover he is getting funding from George Soros.