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Americans want peace. Biden regime wants war and they don't care if our sons and daughters die for their cause (enriching themselves). Globalists want depopulation.

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The politicians and their sons and daughters should fight in the war if that's what they want so badly.

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Fat chance of that.

F the pols that are in favor of ANY

war.

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Maybe the US has bio labs , arms or riches in those areas they want to secure at all costs of life?

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It seems the people in those provinces want to reunite with Russia. Ukraine was antagonistic toward the residents anyway, so why not let them go?

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Antagonistic? Doesn't even begin to describe how the ethnic Ukrainians were treating the Russians. They had been murdering them since 2014

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Maybe they want them to leave rather than give up the land. Everything seems to go back to land. People always want bounty.

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not the land per se, the minerals buried in it

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There are a whole bunch of counties that want to leave Oregon and become part of Idaho, so why not let them go?

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Let them go.

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Good answer. Another reason to stop meddling on Russia's border.

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I find it a frightening endeavor for the whole world.

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Yes! And our Constitution provides no warrant for us to be involved. But our Civilian Command Authority is actively endeavoring to pick a war with Russia.

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Is there anyway that can happen?

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I think Ukraine would be happy to let the people go, but not the farmland on which they currently reside.

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Ukraine is Angela Merkle and FJB'S war. It is not Putin who is the aggressor. The enemy is the EU and NATO. It is the West. Without US funding, it is over. Russia was our ally in both world wars. Post WWII, Russia became the enemy. It has remained so to Europe. Europe has never been able to take care of its own affairs. It's incompetence continues today.

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Did you know that during the Civil War Tsar Alexander II sent warships to protect the east and west coast of the U.S. from Great Britain and France, who otherwise would have been very happy to assist the Confederacy in destroying the United States. Can't really decide whether that was a good or a bad thing

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Agreed. South had every right succeed. I wonder what the long term outcome would have been.

And slavery would have gone by the wayside.

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You are right - an a half-million white Americans wouldn't have needlessly died in an illegal war.

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Only white Americans died?

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FALSE, all color died. Only white was liberated, the other colors 2nd class citizen

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Seriously? Do you really want to split those hairs?

An overwhelming majority of dead and wounded during the American Civil War were white men. Like thousands to one of any other measurable category of people. Do you care to argue that?

Now, did some black people die? Yes. For that matter, there were probably a few orientals and Native Americans who died because of that conflict. And I'm sure too many women and children.

Happy now?

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Just wondering - why even mention race? Apparently that was important to you.

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The ratos of numbers of people's is about right

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If you want to talk about illegal wars, go back to 1776. Most of the narrative that Americans are taught is garbage. As one American historian has said: "The freest society on Earth in 1775 was British North America, with the exception of the slave system." See

https://www.garynorth.com/public/8215.cfm

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Colin, that is certainly going back! I cannot argue that most of us were taught rot in school, about history. And I am in no position to agree or disagree with your position on the American war for independence. And I will check out the link you provided.

I don't know whether or not what actually happened in 1776, or 1860, or 1914, or 1941, or 1964, makes a great difference on where we go from here. Maybe. I'm sure there are lessons to be learned from those times, but few would choose to learn from them. Sadly, it seems we pathetic humans are destined make essentially the same mistakes repeatedly, until Christ returns. That of course isn't just me being cynical, it's what God's Word tells us. But I wouldn't mind a little break from this war, after war, after war, after war business.

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What crockery crock

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I feel guilty saying it because of slavery, but if we had become, like Europe, several separate countries, slavery would have become too difficult to maintain. And we wouldn't have ended up with a monster country "too big to fail". When Obama said that my reply then would also do for the U.S., When something's too big to fail, it NEEDS to fail.. If only........

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it was too difficult to maintain before the Civil War. The war really started in a period called "Bleeding Kansas" over Kansas and Nebraska being admitted to the Union as free or slave states. Kansas Jayhawkers on the border with Missouri went over and kidnapped slaves from slave state MO and took them back to KS. Raiding parties kidnapped them back. Quantrill's 1863 massacre raid on Lawrence resulted in 150 Unionist men and boys being killed. The Union Army burned out 4 counties south of KCMO, forcing residents to march out. John Brown was from a small KS town before he gained infamy at Harper's Ferry.

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Or we all be slaves or worse. Or be counted as only 2/3's human no vote

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No-brainer. It was a bad thing.

Our so-called constitutional republic ended with the beginning of the Civi War. It hasn't existed since.

The southern states had every right to secede. No doubt, they managed the effort badly, but that does not change the fact that they had the right to leave. Even Lincoln -a dozen years before the war - stated publicly that the states have the legal right of secession.

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IIRC, the New England states met in Hartford, CT, to consider secession over the War if 1812. There were arguments pro and con, but no one argued that secession was illegal or unconstitutional.

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there were foreign troops massed in Canada and Mexico waiting to invade and divvy up the broken and divided nation

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A good thing.

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Hi Gene, of course you are entirely correct. I would add major blame to Obama for the war in Ukraine, too. It was his rotten regime that overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014 and installed the puppets who are there now, helping us burn the country to the ground. The ground - the fertile farm land and the natural resources - of course seems to be the big prize being sought after, and the bloodthirsty monsters who provoked all of this don't seem to care how many people they murder to get it. It kinda makes me wish Putin would take the whole darned country and dare anyone to try to recapture it, but I suspect he will try to keep it limited to the eastern provinces. To me, all of this seems as stupid as it is tragic. If our so-called leaders had had sense enough to negotiate with Putin, they likely would have gotten pretty much what they wanted and may have avoided the complete destruction of the Ukrainian nation. Maybe they wanted that, too - just for the entertainment value.

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Feckless people do stupid things. The Muslim dude not from Hawaii is a plague on world stability, John. Pompous, self serving narcissistic buffoon.

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Come now Gene, you're being too kind! (-;

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Hello? Merkel is no longer running Germany; it's Olaf Somebody or other.

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SLS-

Yes, you are correct. But she was when the Minsk Agreement was executed then violated by her own admission . Dark face in the European woodpile.

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Yes, I know that, but this is Olaf Scholtz' war, not Merkel's. (Saw his name after posting previous comment).

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It is now but she was the architect with her fellow buffoons at NATO.

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Predator/Parasite/Psychotics run America and they do not care for Americans at all. They are culling millions with their US Government DOD-DARPA developed Covid and the Bioweapon Jab and now pushing us to WWIII.

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Sounds like Putin is winning the war and offering an olive branch to the losers. Hes always so graceful. And I thank God for that.

He has super sonic muscles that can penetrate the pentagon sixty feet down before blowing up. (Look how easy it was for a missile to hit on 9/11).

As well there are probably Poseidon nukes in ny harbour ready to go (plus other harbours and locations)(100+xhiroshima). So he can actually hit the whitehouse and the pentagon with apparent ease and hasn’t yet.

He’s used these missiles in Ukraine apparently and taken out us military advisors (commanders) stationed 60’ below ground. And has promised to take out the leaders that send their young men to die in Ukraine.

Have we had fair warning or not?

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Wouldn't it be nice if Putin would nuke only one of our cities? One just powerful enough to take out the district and the immediate burbs. That ought to do the trick.

- A sick joke, I know, but you get the point.

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Why would that be nice?

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Okay, Charles, I will try to explain it. I'll try to go slowly...

First, note the last line of my comment. What that means is, I realize this is dark humor. Thus the word "sick". And what "humor" means is, I don't really mean this literally. It's figurative. I'm just kidding; trying to be cute.

Since you may not have gotten "the point" referenced in that last line, I will try to explain it to you:

The "one" city I am referring to is Washington D.C. Washington D.C. is actually a district, but for these purposes, I've called it a city.

Washington D. C. is the seat of government in The United States of America. That's where the government of The United States of America is headquartered. Most, but not all of the federal politicians and bureaucrats and lobbyists, hang-out there, a lot, and a lot of them reside in the suburbs surrounding Washington D.C. Suburbs are the smaller towns and cities that typically surround a larger metropolis. Washington D. C. is a large metropolis. Its suburbs are places like Alexandria, and Falls Church, VA and Bethesda, and College Park, MD, but there are many more.

Now, in my opinion, our government, more appropriately termed "The Uniparty" and "The Deep State", (You'll need to research those) have, over the course of decades, ruined our country, because collectively, we, the people who live in The United States of America and have voted, have chosen people who have absolutely no interests other than their own selfish ones. They do not care about you and they do not care about me, with the possible exception of the money they steal from us every payday., and the children we may have so they can use those children to send to fight in the wars they start, for their own selfish pursuits. The money I'm referring to here is the various taxes that are deducted from our salaries.

So, in conclusion, the premise of my comment is that we would all be vastly better off is all of those politicians, and all of those bureaucrats and all of those lobbyists in and around Washington D.C., ceased to exist.

I hope this clears things up for you, but if not, you please feel free to get back to me anytime.

Peace!

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we recently allowed Ukraine to take out 2 long range radars in Russia that were surveying the Mideast. I think Putin has shown remarkable forbearance against the neocon crimes against his nation.

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Agreed. That's why just last night I told my wife: "Maybe the Russians would trade governments with us if we gave Alaska back to them and threw in Hawaii plus free tickets to Disneyland."

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Insanely kind.

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I find it so incredibly interesting and ironic that over the course of my life (I'm 68), most of the various regimes that have controlled the United State and The Ministry of Propaganda (some call it the media), have tried to indoctrinate We The People to believe that "Russia BAD; USA GOOD", and here we are, at a point where I believe with every fiber in me, that our government is purely evil and I greatly admire Russian leadership?

Isn't life strange?!

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Ever since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Washington has moved NATO relentlessly eastward to Russia's borders, after it promised (via then Sec. of State James Baker) the Kremlin (via Gorbachev) NATO would not move "one inch" east. As history has proven, the US can never be trusted & does nothing but lie (ask the Native Americans).

After engineering the Maidan coup in 2014, Washington brought its Nazi partners to power in Kiev, armed Ukraine to the teeth, slaughtered Russians in Donbass, & endlessly provoked Russia. This was an existential threat to Russia which had no choice but to FINALLY respond in self-defense in February 2022. Imagine what the US would do if the situation were reversed & Russia controlled Mexico & had its military & spooks all over the country. I don't have to tell you that it would be Armageddon & Washington would have nuked Russia by now.

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NATO should have ceased with the end of the Soviet Union.

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Absolutely! It is a vile war machine that now spans the entire globe, not to mention that it's a co-author of Israel's genocide.

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You stand tall with your analysis, Kathy. You are a truth teller. Thank you.

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Thank YOU, Gene, that's very nice to hear.

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Keep telling the truth. We need to hear it.

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Let's not forget the OVERWHELMING votes taken by the people of those 4 Oblasts, to rejoin Russia, and leave the CIA's Nazi-Coup Fantasy Regime-State run from Kiev (meaning - DC, London and Brussels).

If people have no choice or agency in their political systems and State allegiances...then Kosovo is still part of Serbia. It's a uniquely cynical position - to recognize the "independence" of Kosovo (which didn't even have a referendum) - while refusing to recognize the political will of the NovoRossiyans.

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Wait until all the woke youngsters find out about the just passed automatic selective registration law for males between 18-26 years of age. The lunatics in congress also will be pushing to registers females after the election (that's a rumor for now). It will be interesting to see how the "I identify as ..." bullshit is going to play out!

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/military-draft-coming-house-passes-measure-automatically-register-men-selective-service

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I love the last two words of this article by Tyler Durden: "...partial conscription."

LOL, I know what that means: Just like Viet Nam; anyone with the right connections gets a "get out of hell free" card.

My grandsons will be drafted over my dead body, and that ain't hyperbole. Only a stone idiot would join the military or agree to conscription while this bunch of monsters in in charge.

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As usual, only the finest physical specimens will be selected for culling in the war

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The Draft of Americans is Illegal and Always Has Been

By Anna Von Reitz

The Draft is involuntary servitude and indenture and is against our Public Law, our Constitutions, and International Law as well.

The only way they got away with it during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam was by pretending that we were all "voluntarily" adopting their foreign citizenship obligations in exchange for unstipulated "benefits" we were not made aware of and which we did not seek.

All such presumed to exist "citizenship contracts" and "social welfare contracts" are in fact unconscionable: this means that we have been sold a bill of goods and entrapped via non-disclosure and ignorance into contractual obligations that we have not even been made aware of.

These private contracts are then alleged to be valid and an exercise of our right to contract, despite the prohibitions of the Public Law, the Constitutions, and the International Law -- because we have purportedly agreed to adopt federal citizenship obligations and it is all supposed to be voluntary.

This ruse and obvious lie is promoted by the constant demands and cajoling of undeclared foreign agents to have young men and women sign up with "Selective Service". They harass young people to sign up and threaten and cajole under color of law --- promising benefits if they do, and punishments if they don't.

When we tracked telephone contacts from "Selective Service" they were found to be generated from the District of Columbia (a foreign venue) and from Puerto Rico (a British Commonwealth-- another foreign venue).

If you allow yourself to be pushed into "volunteering" by signing up with Selective Service you have given the perpetrators additional grounds to tell international authorities --- "See? He willingly signed up for Selective Service." --- when in fact "he" was being coerced and misinformed and threatened and shamed and enticed to do so by undeclared and deceitful foreign agents acting under color of law.

Continue reading http://www.paulstramer.net/2023/10/the-draft-of-americans-is-illegal-and.html

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I don’t think Putin is intending it to continue on that long.

Sounds like Putin is winning the war and offering an olive branch to the losers. Hes always so graceful. And I thank God for that.

He has super sonic muscles that can penetrate the pentagon sixty feet down before blowing up. (Look how easy it was for a missile to hit on 9/11).

As well there are probably Poseidon nukes in ny harbour ready to go (plus other harbours and locations)(100+xhiroshima). So he can actually hit the whitehouse and the pentagon with apparent ease and hasn’t yet.

He’s used these missiles in Ukraine apparently and taken out us military advisors (commanders) stationed 60’ below ground. And has promised to take out the leaders that send their young men to die in Ukraine.

Have we had fair warning or not?

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The neocons that run this country do not care about human life.

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Ukrainian or any others, except their own.

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The best comment I have heard is from Doomberg. We are sleep walking into WW III.

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Perhaps it's time we dust off those anti-war placards from 1969 and hit the streets. Let's stop complaining and agreeing with each other about the impending demise of what little is left of this former constitutional republic and raise some sand. What's the worse that can happen? So they try to come after us like they did the J6'ers. So what.

Why am I not hearing a peep about any organized anti-war protests?

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I agree! I have felt that mothers should start a group called MAW - Mother's Against War. How do we get these movements started?

PAW - PEOPLE against War! War is legalized homocide and I am tired of the Elite Homicidal Maniacs ruling the world! Human life means nothing to them.

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I'm a soldier not a general, so I don't know how to start something like this. I guess it takes a powerful megaphone.

I remember back many years ago, going to a rally in D.C. promoted by Glenn Beck. It was called the 9/12 Project. A bunch of us - like maybe a hundred thousand or more - came form all over the country to protest the rotten government's illegal taxation, among other things. Of course The Ministry of Propaganda downplayed the whole thing and tried to make it look like only a handful of people showed up, but it was big.

Obviously, we didn't accomplish much, but we tried.

It makes me sad to think what I now believe: This is all going to end very, very badly, as in blood; a lot of blood.

Already 600,000 Ukrainians are dead, at least that many more wounded, and millions unaccounted for; some escaped to other countries, and some trafficked for the most evil purposes. And at the current trajectory, it's only going to get worse.

Based on a few of the pathetically ridiculous comments I've read here, there are still people buying into the insanity being promoted by our stinking, rotten regime.

"Tragic" doesn't even begin to describe all of this.

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I like that: MAW and PAW.

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Peace and love and far out man!

Lest we forget the summer of love (and moral degradation).

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I'm not advocating for immoral behavior. I'm promoting stopping the immoral and completely unnecessary loss of life.

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That's because most people understand the stolen election. They see a rogue government that IS NOT in charge of anything along with knowing in a few short months this nightmare ends and Trump will be back in to straighten all this out.

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I am not trying to incite by asking this question. It is sincere:

Do you actually believe that Trump will be elected and that he will straighten all this out?

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Remember when the usual suspects went bat shit apoplectic when Trump met with Putin in Iceland? Unbelievable. Heinous stupidity driven by predatory self interest.

Advantage Russia. Their cold war bureaucracy collapsed and went broke.

We in the US weren't that lucky. The rent seekers are still pimping their bullshit for money and perpetual employment as if Russia was still the Soviet Union.

The irony is the remnant communist and marxist True Believers have greater numbers and greater influence in the USA than they do in modern Russia.

Beria was a genius. The infiltrators operating his agendas set all this in motion 60 years ago. Now in today's USA it's Cold War 2.0 or lose your paycheck. Helping NATO morph into the 5th Reich is apparently the next new thing that ushers in the WEF/WHO/EC utopia agenda.

How long has Rockefellerism been a 5th Column?

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Yes, I certainly recall how the deep staters and The Ministry of Propaganda excoriated Trump for that and any effort at peace and prosperity he made.

I agree that what we're dealing with now, and the prospects of what likely lies right ahead, has been "in the works" for a long, long time.

At the risk of sounding ridiculous, I have some longing for that innocent time, sixty years ago, when I knew little of nothing about the actual evil in this world.

At some level I envy the completely uninformed and badly misinformed, of whom there are many. Isn't it ironic? I though we were supposed to believing in "The Information Age"! Laughable, really.

I do not mean to imply they I am greatly informed. Some of what you write, I have no knowledge of, but I know enough to know that we're in deep kimchi.

I'm glad I have my "Imaginary Friend in the sky" to count on. Praise YHWY!

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The United States wanders the world picking out nations to conquer. After they kill two or three or four million they leave suddenly. I saw that in Vietnam as a Marine Corps grunt. That was just one of our many disasters. And now Ukraine with perhaps six hundred thousand ukrainian soilderboys dead and maybe one hundred thousand russians dead. There is really something wrong with our so-called leaders. something is wrong in their minds. Something is demented and evil. And the same goes for the slaughter genocide in gaza that we are supporting and making possible right in front of the whole world only a few decades after the world war two genocide of the jews. How sick can people get?

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Semper Fi, Daniel . Vietnam was a clusterfuck. I Corps. ‘66-67. Welcome Home, Brother.

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There is big money in war. Blackrock is already over in Ukraine scoping out the reconstruction opportunities, while the military industrial complex has been hard at work since the war's inception. Life is meaningless to those who pursue riches through their wars. Much of the territory "taken" by Russia voted to secede from Ukraine not that long ago but was blocked by the US puppet president over there. "Follow the Money" was the theme during the Watergate era, and nothing has changed from then to now. It's always about the money.

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And be damned the slaughter and genocide in ukraine and gaza. Human nature is greed.

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The USA and Europe are in much financial trouble right now, it is a wonder how they can entertain the idea of NOT accepting President Putin’s peace plan. Wake up Americans. You are being taken advantage of by the people running the Biden administration, and it will bring down the USA in a very bad way. At least Europe is waking up and in the processes of getting rid of WEF puppets like Ursula and far left leaders in every European country. They at least SEE the writing on the wall. Americans wake up before it is too late

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Insanity rules the day.

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You nailed it.

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We have our own war to worry about. Garland et al are coming after dissidents in the US.

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Sept 2022: " Voting concluded Tuesday in the so-called Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) on a referendum, with 99.23% choosing reunification with Russia, according to the final results approved by the DPR’s Central Election Commission, Russia’s state news agency Tass reported."

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From the film of the same name ''Suppose they gave a war and nobody came?''

Hell no we won't go. That's all it takes when they try it on again.

I am ex-forces too (RN 1968 - 79) None of my ex-navy mates or myself would volunteer to fight for this stupidity. o|---)

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This is far worse than the summer of 1914. Then they didn’t have nuclear weapons. What we are facing, due to the infantile behavior of the U.S. foreign and military establishment, is the possible end of mostly EU countries and possibly the USA.

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Wait a minute. I never rejected his peace proposal. In fact, I welcomed Putin‘s peace proposal with open arms. Where is my representation? Where is the representation of the American people? We all know it’s the elite parasitic pedophile politicians who are behind all of the fear mongering and the hate mongering. Partnered with the military industrial complex to funnel money back into their pockets.

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Donna LaBruno - exactly. We the people are definitely not represented. I wish more folks understood this. I guess they’re all too preoccupied staring at propaganda and other crap on their screens. Not living in the real world.

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