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FWIW, I've been supplementing with 50 mg of chelated zinc for nearly 30 years, as well as making my own liposomal vitamin C. My daily supplementation has been chelated zinc 50 mg, 1000 mg lipsomal Vit C, 5000 IU Vit D, and 100 mg of powdered reishi & chaga mushroom. I have the nickname "Ironman" at work because when everyone else gets sick, I don't.

Granted, I did come down with covid in Jan 2022 and it had the whole dept buzzing as it was the first time in 20 years that I had called in sick. I took a single dose of Ivermectin and was my normal self within 2 days. With that exception, I haven't gotten sick once since 1997 when I started it. And I work in a environment where there is a huge amount of contact with the public where there are more sick days allotted to employees for that very reason.

And I *never* got a flu shot.

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How do you make your own vit C?

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I make it too. YouTube homemade liposomal vitamin C. Watch a few videos as there are minor differences. Carolyn Dean, MD also has a recipe in her book The Magnesium Miracle. I use her recipe.

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thanks!

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Thanks for the recommendation. Just got the book.

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Apologies, i wrote the answer to your question, but it landed further below, pls scroll down and you'll find the (somewhat lengthy) answer requested.

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Got it! Thanks a lot!

Send complicated and several devices and ingredients required. Is it such an advantage over common vitamin c pills?

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I understand that it seems complicated, but if you do any kind of cooking, that's all it is. 4 ingredients, mixed together in the proper ratio. Instead of baking for 40 minutes and then done, you run a blender for 2-3 minutes, refrigerate for 90 minutes, and repeat 5-6 times over the run of a afternoon. Read the instructions a few times, it'll become increasingly less confusing. Despite the nerd speak, its basically just telling you what to mix, how much, and the steps of mixing it.

As for what's the advantage? A very important one called "bioavailability".

The more bioavailable a nutrient is, the more effective the body's use of it is. Intravenous Vit C has the highest bioavailability. Why is liposomal more bioavailable than a juice or tablet?

Because it is protected from the harsh environment of the stomach surviving to till absorbed more efficiently by the small intestine. How does that happen?

Liposomes are tiny spheres made up of a phospholipid bilayer, which is similar to the structure of cell membranes. This bilayer protects the vitamin C from being broken down by stomach acid and enzymes. Once the liposomes reach the small intestine, they are able to fuse with the cell membranes and release the vitamin C directly into the bloodstream. This results in a much higher absorption rate than other oral forms of vitamin C. It's also less likely to be excreted in the urine, which means that more of the vitamin is available for use by the body and literally, not just pissed away. Most people don't realize just how much of their supplements either get broken down by the stomach, or simply get excreted through their urine, barely touching their systems (unless one practices urine therapy), so how bioavailable a supplement matters a whole lot.

A (hopefully useful) analogy: You're in a artic research station doing your thing, the research lead asks you to go to a substation and help out. So you put on your artic weather gear and hop on a snowmobile, crossing 2 miles of frigid ice, but protected from the cold by your gear. Once inside the substation, you park the snowmobile, go inside, and take off the heavy gear getting to work.

In this analogy, you are the vitamin c molecule, the liposomes are the artic survival clothing, the artic environment is your stomach, the snowmobile is the digestion process, the substation is your small intestines, and helping with the research is your body using the vitamin c to do stuff within your biology. If you can't survive the trip to the substation, you don't provide any help.

Hope this makes sense, I'm not as good at analogies as I'd like to be.

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Enquiring minds need to know!

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how do you make your own vit c?

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You use ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate. Recipes on line.

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curious too!

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Dr Zelenko knew this and published the info in mid 2020.

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It was Dr. McCullough’s protocol & Dr. Thomas Borody’s Ivermectin/Doxycycline/Zinc protocol that pushed me into publicly entering & promoting “ the fight” against the suppression of repurposed drugs ( especially Ivermectin which I had used for 40 years in my veterinary practice) . Two great physicians laying their careers on the line to save lives while cowardice colleagues of their’s promoted the jabs & toed the line . It sickened my soul to the core .

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Peter,

My post-Easter/Passover karma buzz is lifting. Back to work!!

For the record, it was our friend Laura who turned us onto the Covid not-pharma protocols. She is a trained Biologist, used to work for Pharma, and she sent me Ivermectin when I got Covid. She is not a M.D., BUT I TRUST HER!! I am still taking regular dosage of Zinc.

It is just sad that they threw Laura out when she questioned Pharma 10 years ago, and she was/is now deemed a mis-informationalist - or some nonsense.

And for the record, I did not think the Ivermectine was effective for me. AND THAT IS THE POINT. I took it because there was a chance that it could help, and I literally had NO worries about side effects. I read all about it before I took it, and it was safe, but not-effective for ME. It seemed to have worked for others.

"Personal Medical Calculus" is my personal mission for 1) my younger son's Autistic population moving forward, and 2) for my older son's Military community.

#AeternusUmbra (watch forever)

#FlyNavy

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Mike & Dustin Sweeney

I don’t understand why you refer to yourselves as I. Are they your children? My doctor absurdly claimed that Ivermectin is dangerous.

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How do you refer to yourself when speaking, or writing, to another? Do you understand that Dustin is the son with autisim?

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I refer to myself as I, not we. I do not know either Dustin or Mike, or any bandits.

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I don't understand your question. But simply stated, my son with Autism has led me down a unique path, and I follow his protocols pretty closely now. For the longer version, see -https://outsidein51.substack.com/p/pro-vaccine-safety-in-2023-where

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I’m interested in who Laura is that you mentioned in your post.

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Just a family friend. I am not sure if she wants her name public, but just a smart independent woman we know as a Special Needs family.

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Thanks

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Thank-you for understanding, and making sure others understand, that your experience with IVM is just that, your experience. Just like they say with cars, your mileage may vary. Seemingly, the majority of people demand everyone will respond as they do to a drug, or any other happening in their lives. A true narcissistic fault.

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I am a nurse on the holistic side doing functional medicine for 20 years. No one mentions that chronic use of zinc depletes copper.

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Or that taking vitamin D without vitamin K can cause kidney and gall stones. How about that cheap synthetic vitamins are worse than taking no vitamins. That goes for fish oil too.

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All good points. Good quality products available: zinc with copper, Vitamin D3 with K2. Are there other recommended combinations you have observed? Thankyou.

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How much k2.. it's recommended 4 drops but I wonder with factor V Leiden if we should be adding clotting meds to the mix

Lumbro n natto would counteract but who knows

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For reliable information on Vitamin K check out k-vitamins.com.

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What's wrong with fish oil.. hat many are rancid.. I once read Weston price on that..

What do u recommend krill ?

I know we are to consume bottle within 100 days .. but

Carlson fish oil says it's checked for contaminants and purity and 28 chemicals etcetc isn't that good enough

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Jarrow makes a product called zinc balance with I think 2 mg copper to 39 mg zinc to avoid that.

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30 mg zinc

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How much zinc for how long? And which form of zinc has been shown to deplete copper? If copper was depleted, is there evidence this had bad results?

Are doctors recommending people take zinc regularly even if they are not sick?

So any multi- vitamin with zinc in it must be bad?

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Multis usually have copper too. You just need to check the label.

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Immunosenescence of foamy macrophages [Laderoute MP, 2015, 2020] is a key mechanism by which SARS-CoV-2 and spike protein cause disease [Laderoute MP submitted]. Immunosenescence involves ACTIVE alpha-fetoprotein (AFP), the first immunosuppressive molecule described and the first soluble inhibitor of apoptosis discovered, both effects mediated through the 67 kD AFP receptor [Laderoute and Pilarski, 1994]. While copper activates AFP, zinc binds and inactivates AFP. While zinc has many effects, a major contributor to its anti-viral properties likely involves this major role in reversing and preventing immunosenescence. Immunosenescence blocks trained innate immunity needed for handling pandemic viruses, cancers and and causes chronic diseases like atherosclerosis, metabolic syndrome, autoimmunity etc. So zinc is powerful on its own.

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The FLCCC and Dr. McCullough have protocols for this. Autophagy is thought to be really important. So fasting about 16 hours per day could also be considered. In addition for severe cases one might try transdermal nicotine patches as nicotine appears to neutralize the spike protein? Also I prefer soy isoflavones (60 mgs) rather than quercertin bioflavonoids (250 mgs) due to: 1) estrogen/antiestrogen activity and 2) based on 25 years of experience at Immune System Management that soy isoflavones (60 mgs) reverse and prevent immunosenescence which restores wellness (such as in advanced cancer patients). Still need to take vitamins, omega proteins, probiotics and WHEY protein (not plant protein) supplements daily. Avoid stress, sugar, alcohol, and don't forget exercise, especially weight training to diminish insulin resistance.

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So you don't recommend quercitin.. isnt soy bad and would disrupt hormones ?

So many voices saying different Rx, who to believe

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Zinc is essential for proliferating cells. Without adequate zinc B and T cells are compromised (antibody production), and functions of some of the innate system cells are impaired - e,g. monocytes, neutrophils, NK cells. Makes sense that adding zinc would help

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Not sure about having Paxlovid included in the protocol.....

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I don’t agree with Paxlovid either.

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Zinc and copper should go hand in hand. As zinc can deplete copper. However the AMoUNT of copper I do not know, only small amounts are needed to balance zinc, I.e. e.g. I have heard a handful of Brazil nuts or a serving of beef liver is more than enough. Most daily vitamins on the market have less than 1 mg as a balance to their normal 10 mg zinc. I do not know if these are scientifically derived ratios but do not consume too much copper.

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Reassuring. Zinc is part of my daily regime.

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Mine too. Zinc produces unadvertised benefits for males.

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The opening line of this piece is a refusal to grapple with hard facts: "It is a shame that blue ribbon US academic medical centers failed to lead on randomized trials in the treatment of acute COVID-19." It wasn't a shame. It was a coordinated crime against science and against humanity.

See: https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/mistakes-were-not-made-an-anthem-57a

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No injections of Experimental Gene Therapy drugs were needed at all and most Doctors were prohibited from using these protocols.

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I also take zinc, Vitamine C, and D3.

I wonder how anyone could be healthy before we were able to take additional Zinc?

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much of our food is not as nutritious as it used to be due to industrial farming/depletion of soils. Also - we live in a society of toxic overload (plastics, chemicals, jet fuels, etc!!)

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I have trouble with nausea when I take Zinc even when I eat. Why?

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Eat an hour ahead, perhaps?

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I take it at bedtime and don’t notice the nausea. Can’t take it in the morning!

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The zinc gummies cause much less nausea than tablets for me.

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I take my zinc at night because of the nausea effect.

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I found taking it about 20 minutes after the largest meal of the day is best. Otherwise that nausea is bad.

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Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko

Board Certified Family Practitioner

501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950

845-238-0000 March 23, 2020

To all medical professionals around the world:

My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.

As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).

Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:

1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.

2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.

3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).

My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:

1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days

2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days

3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.

Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.

In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.

With much respect,

Dr. Zev Zelenko

cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff

my note: Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko's updated protocols are easily found on the internet.

Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko alerted me to zinc, I searched and found a very early covid 4 patient case study using a large number of zinc lozenges showing efficacy that lead me to the cold studies using lozenges - some showing efficacy, some not and analysis of why.

I took away that some zinc lozenges are made with ingredients that bind the zinc rendering it ineffective and the obvious need is to START VIRAL TREATMENT EARLY. My decision was to include the zinc sulfate tablets per Zelenko in my covid kit and take them for covid by "dissolving" them in water then mouth washing, gargling and swallowing that zinc sulfate water. Use regular dietary supplementation with 30 mg zinc from zinc gluconate tablets which I would also use a lozenges just put the pill in my mouth for a couple of minutes at a time to keep a bit of zinc in my mouth and throat if I got covid and and I would not worry about short term high zinc intake during the treatment for covid. and consider a bit of copper supplementation.

when I searched my email for Dr. Zelenko'letter I noticed this. which I had not remembered, "Hypothesis of zinc ascorbate as best zinc ionophore for raising antiviral resistance against Covid-19" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8250578/ The hypothesis here is that Zinc ascorbate acts as its own zinc ionophore where as other zinc compounds require a separate zinc ionophore for best antiviral action. So another "zinc" to consider. I searched, found this. I have no experience with

https://purebulk.com/products/zinc-ascorbate

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I so very much admire Dr McCullough…but I wish someone would ask him to speak more slowly….a bit difficult to pick up the details with such rapid speech. Just a thought…

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One poster on youtube (not referring to Dr. McCullough) suggested setting the playback speed of a video to slower than normal speed. A slight reduction in speed does not distort the voice enough to cause me to puzzle over what was said. Hope this helps

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