They're laughing at us now. They pulled this off in front of God and everybody; it cannot be mistaken for anything but what it is. They know we know. They don't care. Lahaina was like shooting fish in a barrel. So was Paradise. They will move forward with impunity. I shudder to think what is coming.
Yep! I agree . I’ve always thought that it’d all end up in the streets . Pretty much lily the Hollywood movies with ground resistance but for real . I think these folks will push & shove for as long as they can . Most will take it & break . A strong minority will stand up to them but I’ll be chaos . We need a miracle for it to end well . A miracle
There are so many who have no idea of any of what we are reading on these substacks. They only see FOX, MSNBC, CNN, etc. They're going about their lives - many that I know - completely unaware of what's happening. No interest either.
I was that person up until about 5 years ago. I was busy working full time and raising a family. President Trump woke me up to a big bad nightmare and the horrors just continue. I can’t believe the evil and greed. It’s painful.
The more history I read, the more I understand that the American Indians were a warning to us all. The British Empire is greedy, ruthless and evil and the tentacles of evil can be seen in the once visible, now hidden, empire they created. What the rich want, the rich take.
Ditto. I saw it and said: Paradise, CA all over redux only worse, with the child sacrifice element. As Heidi said "a bronze age death cult sacrifice' And the second immediate thought was "DEW" on an airplane and chem dust before... wow these rich people are sickos. And all of them are guilty including the investors lining up to buy the land before the ashes even have cooled and the surviorship figured out... eg: who inherits in the wills? If not the children?
there are still 2025 enrolled students missing. That is just school age, not the younger, or the adults. There will be a legal taking of the land, it will probably be sold for pennies on the dollar. With a nice memorial park to remind us that what the billionaires want, the billionaires get.
Most of the people on substack are morons too, if you haven't noticed;
If substack was a danger, it wouldn't be allowed, most of the HIGH level sites on substack.com, are just the normal WOKE PILE that you will find any place else. Like all the net, you can count on 60% bot, and 40% of the humans can't tell a bot from a human.
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Even the MAUI story is like COVID, so many narratives that even normal people just scratch their tail and 'tune-out', whether its graphene & mRNA,, or DEW space alien start fires on Maui, all is carefully created ZOG-SHIT
I guess nothing is coming if we start seeing mass arrests of these criminals and if we don't then as you imply it will only get much much worse. Decent people in the military, if indeed any ever existed, don't have much time to act against their senior officers who have quite clearly been chosen from the days of 911 onward to go along with any criminality the unelected and unelectable regime in DC gets up to. Have the US military got the balls to clean out the traitors at the top? From what I have seen of the US military this last 150 years there is not a snowball's hope in hell that they have.
How many times must we hear, "But, I was just following orders"?!
This was their OWN damned community! SCREW the effing 'orders' and save your effing people!!!!!!! When you're the HERO who went AGAINST orders you SAVE LIVES and nobody is going to fire or demote you FOR THAT!!! Look what 'following orders' got you automatons?
As you probably know, that was the Nuremberg defense, just following orders. Also documented by Milgram and others, obedience to authority is a powerful factor in human behavior.
I agree - and the citizens don't want to throw THEM under the bus even though THEY were personally responsible for who knows how many dying/unable to escape? Unf*cking believable. They need to be held responsible. Nobody gets to say "just following orders" anymore.
The video, now on Rumble, is of local first responder from Honolulu, in tears of sorrow and rage at losing his job as fire chief because he refused to take the jab. He knew that he was not only breaking a a family tradition, but he was also being legally stripped of his role and identity as a member of a community.
Firing all first responders who refused the clot-shot is a convenient way to stack the deck of personnel in favor of those who are more compliant to authority than committed to serving the community, and those who do not place a high value on critical thinking skills or creative problem solving.
I could see straight away that sacking those who wouldn't get it was to get rid of future dissenters when it comes to other corruption to come. It will be their downfall.
The truth is always too hot to handle alone. That's why we pass it on. That's why it ends up scorching the very earth we walk on. But we still crave it.
"The truth will set you free". It's often painful, because we have grown comfortable with the lies that demand nothing of us, where truth usually does place a demand on us to correct the wrong that hid it, for however long. For many, that's too uncomfortable,too threatening, to deal with, so they retreat angrily back to the enslavement of the lies.
Q: What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth?
A: 6 months
The police chief Pelletier was the same chief in the Las Vegas mass shooting. No answers ever came from that guy regarding that tragic event. He's in cahoots with someone in multiple mass murders and though you won't entertain conspiracy theories, we will. He's bent as a 9 bob note...
the why is that they want us all dead. Not for their BS CO2 story, to rid the earth of the middle class that uses too many resources. Resources they want preserved in perpetuity for their sorry asses. The CO2 story is false, but Peak Oil is correct.
This is because 100% of your so called fucking 'knowledge' is controlled bile, they never let you see the entire elephant nor do they give you enough appendages to deduce the beast.
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Occam's Razors says "Just Listen to what they fucking say"
1.) Deagel-Report 90% USA to be eliminated by 2025 ( 340M to 90M) [ young with skills leave to get good paying jobs abroad, old die cuz they can't afford health-care, majority in citys go feral & cannibalize ]
2.) Georgia Guidestones, 500M world population by 2050
They don't have tell you why or HOW, but they DO tell you the OUTCOME the Goals and what is coming for your sorry asses, all of you wetbacks, spics, niggers, jews, gypsys, homos, pedos and shit eating politicians are going to die, 8 billion to 500M, 95% reduction, 500M survivors living in 15-min citys, and 1,000's of elite familys & their servants living in rural paradise.
"Good Man" is like the Twilight Zone episode, "To serve man" a cook book
The rule of thumb in all in-human history, but is a child-fucking, cannibal, one only needs to travel and watch humans in the 'wild' and see that they live just like their primate baboon ancestors; Masturbate, rape, cannibal, infanticide;
Civilization does attempt to 'correct' the nature of man, but the leaders of civilization for all time as now, never themselves stop the baby-fucking, or drinking of infant blood; Civilization just 'hides' it from the sheep waiting to be culled.
What's rather clear is that just like Las-Vegas shooting where there were dozen's of things going on at once, and it all got memory holed, and to date not one MOFU in GOV has stepped forward with 'truth'
Then they said the exact same incident commander to MAUI to run this operation.
The ONLY common denominator here in both cases is SAUDI, the LV was a SAUDI hit, and the rock-concert shooting was a cover, but there were also 1/2 a dozen casinos in the area that had their windows blown-out, which caused all the cops in the city to go in different directions, taking it longer to stop the active shooter at the concert. Given the SAUDI's plenty of time to do their business on the top-floor of the same hotel as active-shooter.
Now as to MAUI, the deal is CHINA wants a PORT, and Saudi is going to pay for it, so SAUDI had to 'soften' up the price for the land; The rest is just history, like LV and the good cop running the show a 'fixer' for CIA-SAUDI aka the "Pedo Dollar"
The same type of scenario occurred with Hurricane Katrina. In my humble opinion, the citizen’s rights were violated. Citizens should be able to freely move, especially during a life and death situation.
Generally you have to have honesty before you can have a conversation.
That news link reeks of q-anon nonsense. There's no quotes from any person, no references, no links, no sources, no nothing. It's a list of claims with absolutely zero backing information.
I've no idea. Presuming they were ordered, and did follow that order, it makes no sense based on what I know of the area and Maui in general. Everyone knows everyone there, it's small town vacation-economy.
I lived in Oahu for three years and got to know “the locals” who absolutely HATED the White Man and all of its ilk. Operation Pearl Harbor was a premeditated and orchestrated event approved of PRIOR to its commencing by the misogynistic FDR and New Deal Co., Inc. FACT. The USA is being dealt with by God.
Many layers deeper you will find the answers. FDR was directed by others; I believe from the UK. But they were acting on whose behalf? Evil has been occurring full speed since 100 AD when the Romans began to take over the Christian religion in hopes of controlling. Then came the printing press and the translation of the Bible. This lead to freedom of thought for members of The Way (Christianity) and new methods and plans had to be developed on top of the control that was already in place 500 years ago. Roman Catholic religion was spread around the world as quickly as possible and the torture, death and enslavement went along with it (Spaniards in Mexico for example). Islam fits into the mix, too. There is a puppet master and there are many puppets and they all are working to become the leader of the NWO, but will all be thrown into the lake of fire. I won't be surprised if AI gets loose and nukes us all like Terminator. Humans are parasites.
Lahaina is large enough that not everyone knows everyone. I lived and worked there for a few years. Some areas of Maui are like that, but not the larger and touristier areas, at least from my experience. "Locals" is used there to mean descendants of the Hawaiians who lived there before the white man came. (I won't call them "natives" because according to the history I've read, they came and murdered the previous inhabitants long ago, at least on Maui.) But there are many white business owners/residents of Lahaina, not just "Locals." The Locals tend to love tourists of all shades, but move there to live if you look different, and you get "stink eye" from many of them. Of course there are many other Locals who are wonderful people without chips on their shoulders. The ones who hate whitey are just Hawaii's version of entitled would-be socialists or communists who want property taken away from others and given to them. They just happen to have their own unique justification for that entitlement, which has some basis in truth although it is debatable whether the Hawaiian King knew what he was doing when he signed over the land (or was coerced, or forced, etc.)
That would seem to be true. In which case I would have to wonder whether special friends or family were let through while unknowns were kept in. Very odd situation that I hope our intrepid researcher gets to the bottom of!
Oh, so it's climate change. Smells like blueANON bovine excrement. Locals are loyal to #pedocrats and it is not inconceivable that they were ordered to do what they did and were led to believe that doing so would save lives. If the #pedocrats are experts at but 1 thing, it is prevaricating to gaslight people into believing a false narrative.
Yes I agree they would have been manipulated but at some point one has to asked is this helping and give an on the ground report of the harm of the orders
Thankyou John for your true investigative journalism on this issue.
Sasha Latypova wrote an essay today concerning a claim from an anonymous poster that their research of GIS mapping data indicates that the fire burned mostly properties that were non-government owned/controlled and the burn lines coincided too perfectly with property lines. Their position is that the burnt properties were the smaller residential and low rise buildings in the town.
I would love your checking into this and your opinion.
The smaller residential properties were likely little and old wooden buildings with many fire entry points - just saying. Once one house goes up all the susceptible neighbouring houses are at risk. Embers can fly and set other houses in other districts alight, setting the dry grass alight next to a property, or landing the roof cavity where the shingles had blown off from the wind. Not all solidly built apartments survived. On the drone footage one sees a series of, say, 3 story apartments around a pool, and one is flattened - bad luck - embers found an entry point. They just have a lower risk.
But I also thought the grass burn pattern looked unusual. Fire shifts around a lot with crazy winds, but I'd like to see the original ignition point.
I didn't want to channel John's investigation. Most major government buildings would be non- combustible construction (concrete, steel, block, etc.) Smaller structures in US are often wood framed and are more susceptible to fire. I don't know Lahaina construction norms however choice of building materials would definitely affect their resistance to fire.
That's a great video. Two other things about the Las Vegas massacre.
First, an officer who died in Las Vegas was scheduled to testify in a federal child-sex-trafficking case. The child who was trafficked with the complicity of Nevada officials wrote a book called "How the Obamas get the death penalty"; that book has been scrubbed from the internet and from my home computer!
Charles Hank, the Maui Police Dep Chief from LV, retired after less than a year, in October 2022. He returned to Las Vegas. His replacement as Dep Chief of MPD was Wade Maeda, a local, already on the force as Captain.
John, in case you missed this comment from earlier, this is an important forensic concern:
Porcelain has a melting point of just over 3000 deg F, well in excess of steel or aluminum. In structure fires, even very hot ones, materials like ceramics and fire brick are typically found because of their extreme temperature tolerance. All of these structures had porcelain, in the form of sinks, tubs, and toilets. Granted, some sinks and tubs are now made with acrylic and other polymers, but toilets are almost always made of porcelain. Every structure likely had at least one, if not several.
In all the footage and photos of the remains, I haven’t seen any toilets, not even in pieces…
I've also been surprised by the lack of remains, but then, when our house burned all that wasn't rubble (mostly a black and white mess of charcoal and plaster) was the corrugated iron roof and the chimneys. The house was on stumps and collapsed to the ground and everything porcelain broke. There was one casserole dish that had a soft landing, looked perfect, but when I picked it up it broke apart. I understand most of the smaller houses in Lahaina had asphalt shingles, so that explains why there's no corrugated iron covering the rubble. Many of the houses in Lahaina seemed to have inflammable walls - I don't know whether the floors were above ground (in which case everything would collapse) or slabs.
Large amount of wood frame structures in Lahaina, not all elevated construction. If the porcelain broke, one would still expect very distinctive visible chunks. The debris appears to be quite fine grained, and a lot of ash. The question remains, and is very straightforward: what happened to all of the toilets?
There is good slow drone footage of the town day after and footage of residents surveying on the ground in the days after. I never said I was “sure”—that’s your statement. I specifically said, “in all the footage and photos of the remains, I haven’t seen”…
There’s no conclusion drawn: it’s a straightforward question. Where are all of the toilets? If you can find any images or footage with toilets, even broken ones, or fragments, please do share links here.
In the images I've seen, including the drone footage that I've posted multiple times, I wouldn't expect to see the toilets or remnants because the footage hasn't been good enough.
If you have seen footage of a quality where you would've expected to see a toilet, or remnants, but didn't, can you link me with it?
Thermite burns at 4500F ignited with lasers or microwaves
The day before the fire, the entire area was dump with powerered aluminum-foil as an accelerant, the beach-sand powder which is everywhere near the beach, mixed with the aluminum, creating AL-SI-0 THERMITE, which burns at 4500F
Human remains burns 1400F, above 1500F even cadaver-dogs can't smell because all the organics are burnt away.
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This operation was designed to destroy all and leave nothing not even a real body-count; All is gone to dust.
Just like Netanyahu predicted +30 years ago, "We will suck the life out of USA, until only dust remains, which the winds will blow away"
It’s not unreasonable as a hypothesis. The line of questioning I am pursuing here is more forensic than extrapolation, however. Where are all of the toilets?
Well, for starters, everyone needs to look at who the Lahaina incident commander was. That would be the Maui police chief- John Pelletier. Coincidentally (cough) Pelletier was also the incident commander at the 1 Oct Las Vegas massacre. When concertgoers tried to flee the shooting, they ran to the gates they entered through. Those gates had been closed and locked. No fire marshal would ever give an order like that. It had to come from Pelletier and whoever was above him. That sheriff, by the way, is now the governor of Nevada through provable election fraud. So what they want us to believe is no one at the Maui Police Dept was qualified to be chief. And no one from even Oahu was qualified to be chief. They had to recruit an incident commander from Las Vegas to be the chief of police. Pelletier has been a nightmare and even the news has reported on how many people have filed official complaints against him. Justice 4 Lahaina.
Q: What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth?
A: 6 months
The police chief Pelletier was the same chief in the Las Vegas mass shooting. No answers ever came from that guy regarding that tragic event. He's in cahoots with someone in multiple mass murders and though you won't entertain conspiracy theories, we will. He's bent as a 9 bob note...
Well if this doesn't read bio of key actors in the corruption circus:
Steven A. Sund, one of only ten men in history to hold the title of Chief of the US Capitol Police, has coordinated dozens of National Special Security Events, responded to numerous critical incidents and active shooter events, and has protected every living US president.
To build "smart cities." See Real Raw News - "United States Special Forces raided Hawaii Governor Josh Green’s Honolulu mansion, which was dark and deserted. They reportedly found architectural plans for terraforming Maui into a “Smart City,” a technologically modern urban area that uses electronic methods and sensors to collect specific data."
Why covid appeard?Why untested vaxxes mandated?It seems that govts don't like the people...They think we are more than should it.Excuse my language i am from Greece.Our pm gave the idea of covid pass .This year fires burned 1.300.000 acres(195% up from the median of 10 last years...).USA and Greece at their worst time in history...
I think it's an important question to answer, but the focus on the police shows that people don't understand incident command structures.
At a fire, the police are there as support for the fire department. They would normally be helping to evacuate people, but they are not in charge. The fire chief or senior fire officer on scene is the incident commander, and whomever is the senior police officer on scene would coordinate with the incident commander.
If the reporting is accurate, that the police were blocking the main street out of Lahaina during the fire, that's absolutely inconceivable to me, as a retired police officer. Any legitimate police response would've been the opposite: making sure vehicles fleeing the fire had a clear path and didn't have to stop, and assisting anyone who needed help to flee. Even if an order came over the radio telling police on scene to block the road and trap people in the fire, there's no way they would obey. Has anyone filed a FOIA request to get the dispatch tapes from the county?? All radio communication, both police and fire, is recorded.
The much bigger question, in my view, is "where was the fire department?" I see no evidence or reporting of the massive fire department response that would always happen (in previous times, at least). The first responders from the fire department would've been on scene within a few minutes of the first reports of the fire(s), and them reporting what they saw would've rapidly escalated the dispatch to a second and third alarm, which would've had several other fire stations responding to assist. From a quick look at an online map, I see 8 other fire stations within about 30 miles of Lahaina, in addition to the county fire station in Lahaina. Numerous of those other fire stations would've been dispatched to assist the Lahaina station. Where were they?? And why is the police chief/coroner/Las Vegas mass shooting lead investigator looking like the one in charge at all of the press conferences, when he wouldn't have been in charge of the fire response? Why isn't the sincere press there hunting down the fire commanders who were in charge, and getting some answers??
The photo is bizarre. I can understand the placement of the police car on the left that's blocking the main highway going toward the fire, as they would be stopping and warning people headed toward the fire. The police car that's blocking the single lane coming from the town center onto the highway should absolutely not be there. My first thought seeing that photo is that those officers were dispatched to block the lanes going toward the fire, and one idiot cop misunderstood the intent and blocked the wrong lane. That's the most likely scenario, unless there's real evidence to lead elsewhere. People want to believe that every cop is competent and knows exactly what they're doing, and that's just not true, especially now that competency isn't even one of the primary hiring criteria.
Dear Mr. Lamb, many thanks for your thoughtful and constructive comment. The blocking of Front Street is indeed a mysterious element of this puzzle, especially given that downtown Lahaina contained the highest density of dry, wooden buildings. I just got off the phone with a witness who was forced back into downtown Lahaina on the south side of town as well. He ultimately abandoned his car and jumped into the ocean. The downed power lines can be hazardous for people on foot, but not for people in cars with rubber tires. it's a very confusing state of affairs, but perhaps a FOIA request for the dispatch tapes could be revealing. Thanks again for taking the time to share you reflections! Best regards, John Leake
If there's credible witnesses who report being blocked from driving out of town at more than one location, then it has to be considered possible that the police actions were intentional, and it must be investigated more deeply. The more I think about that photo, the more I can't reconcile how those officers didn't see that they were causing a traffic backup and preventing escape from the fire. I can't imagine a situation where that action is defensible.
From what I've seen in the press so far, I think the absence of the fire chief at the press conferences is conspicuous, as they would've been the one in charge of the fire response. That's who I'd be looking to have a private chat with, or some other fire department officer who knows what happened. Also, typically in the US there's a county or city-level fire marshal who would be in charge of the fire investigation. I also have seen no sign of the fire marshal at press conferences, nor any sign of journalists tracking him down.
My instincts tell me that police chief is a mafia lieutenant, and he will not cooperate, and same with the mayor.
It seems inconceivable that in the US a police department could be involved in committing a massacre, and yet that's exactly what I found myself investigating as a human rights investigator for the UN in Bosnia. It does happen, and Americans have long been in denial.
I suggest anybody who hasn't done so already watch two videos on YouTube by Eric West, the Hawaiian Realtor. One is an interview with Lani, who describes how the police were blocking the south end of Front St. The other interview is with "Fish", who describes that a policeman on foot blocked the north end of Front St. The cars in this picture are not blocking Front St., at all. They are blocking the Honoopiilani Hwy, going south. I know this area very well. I ride it on my bike almost every day one month a year for the last five years. The police blocked BOTH Front St. exits. They trapped people like fish in a barrel for the shooting. "Fish" broke down when he described what he saw when he returned to the area some hours later. I imagine it was all the bodies roasted in those cars, both adults and children.
The real question is going up the chain of command to see who issued the order to block the road. As much as hindsight is 20/20, I don't believe the police blocking the road were the ones to blame: they were given an order probably with an ostensible reason for it (eg power lines or another fire up ahead) which they had no reason to question. So who did know?
It's like COVID, you can't find the truth because it was a MILITARY OPERATION anybody including TRUMP who told the truth, would be a Traitor.
Same here with MAUI, the only possible explanation with 'acceralants' dumped the day before and the fires starting all over the place, an the wires on the ground with power turned off still arcing, is that lasers ( portable ) and high-energy RF microwaves were deployed from the sky or mountains by balloons, drones, airplanes, or helicopters.
Doesn't really matter, It was a MIL OPERATION, and MIL made the decisions.
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Pelletier in LV was covering for a "Saudi Assination" team and the hotel next to the concert was the real target the shootings at the concert was just cover for the shooting team. Entire US-MIL CIA DOD operation with the Saudis on USA SOIL
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Then & now, CHINA-SAUDI want Maui, US-MIL is controlled by CHINA via the CIA, this was all done years ago. In fact in 2008 when the USA went last bankrupt, China took ownership of West coast USA, and Hawaii;
US-MIL is on a lease with China and SAUDI is the investor.
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How often do you people waste your time talking about the LV concert, when that was not even the operation, ,just like the MAUI fires, is just a minor part of the operation.
In both cases hell yes they were maximizing casualty's.
The US-MIL operates on a cost per kill, they have to inflict the max number of kills that's how they earn 'atta-boy credits'.
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In summary you all will chat about COVID forever and ignore the 500LB gorilla in your living-room, and same now with MAUI you will chat about Fauci sand-fleas, but ignore the 500LB gorilla that is Saudi&China.
Just like pedo-Dollar, 70 years of USA sending children to Saudi, estimate 10k/year, and not one in 100k even think or mention about the operation.
Same now 3,000 children are gone, but lets talk about DEW space alien technology
Can you check out the guarded black fencing 8 feet high now surrounding everything around Lahiana? I watched video of it, very strange under the circumstances.
Terrible. Just saying as well, that countries are signatories to international Disaster Victim Identification laws. The country with the disaster has to ensure that all victims are found and no possible evidence is tampered with. At least, that's how it was in 2009. I understand this angle but it goes completely against the human disaster urge to rush in to help, and to return to one's property, look for one's pets that were left behind, etc. We were locked out of our town for 40 days while they slowly went about their process, or so they said.
Well, for starters, everyone needs to look at who the Lahaina incident commander was. That would be the Maui police chief- John Pelletier. He's also the coroner which is against state law. Coincidentally (cough) Pelletier was also the incident commander at the 1 Oct Las Vegas massacre. When concertgoers tried to flee the shooting, they ran to the gates they entered through. Those gates had been closed and locked. No fire marshal would ever give an order like that. It had to come from Pelletier and whoever was above him. That sheriff, by the way, is now the governor of Nevada through provable election fraud. So what they want us to believe is no one at the Maui Police Dept was qualified to be chief. And no one from even Oahu was qualified to be chief. They had to recruit an incident commander from Las Vegas to be the chief of police. Pelletier has been a nightmare and even the news has reported on how many people have filed official complaints against him. Justice 4 Lahaina.
It’s ALL very very suspect…..
They're laughing at us now. They pulled this off in front of God and everybody; it cannot be mistaken for anything but what it is. They know we know. They don't care. Lahaina was like shooting fish in a barrel. So was Paradise. They will move forward with impunity. I shudder to think what is coming.
Yep! I agree . I’ve always thought that it’d all end up in the streets . Pretty much lily the Hollywood movies with ground resistance but for real . I think these folks will push & shove for as long as they can . Most will take it & break . A strong minority will stand up to them but I’ll be chaos . We need a miracle for it to end well . A miracle
There are so many who have no idea of any of what we are reading on these substacks. They only see FOX, MSNBC, CNN, etc. They're going about their lives - many that I know - completely unaware of what's happening. No interest either.
/and I am a "conspiracy theorist".
I was that person up until about 5 years ago. I was busy working full time and raising a family. President Trump woke me up to a big bad nightmare and the horrors just continue. I can’t believe the evil and greed. It’s painful.
The country we have warm memories of no longer exists, if indeed, it ever did.
The more history I read, the more I understand that the American Indians were a warning to us all. The British Empire is greedy, ruthless and evil and the tentacles of evil can be seen in the once visible, now hidden, empire they created. What the rich want, the rich take.
I am starting to realize that. I just don’t want this country for our children and grandchildren. We have work to do and we must speak our truth.
Ditto. I saw it and said: Paradise, CA all over redux only worse, with the child sacrifice element. As Heidi said "a bronze age death cult sacrifice' And the second immediate thought was "DEW" on an airplane and chem dust before... wow these rich people are sickos. And all of them are guilty including the investors lining up to buy the land before the ashes even have cooled and the surviorship figured out... eg: who inherits in the wills? If not the children?
there are still 2025 enrolled students missing. That is just school age, not the younger, or the adults. There will be a legal taking of the land, it will probably be sold for pennies on the dollar. With a nice memorial park to remind us that what the billionaires want, the billionaires get.
Same here
Most of the people on substack are morons too, if you haven't noticed;
If substack was a danger, it wouldn't be allowed, most of the HIGH level sites on substack.com, are just the normal WOKE PILE that you will find any place else. Like all the net, you can count on 60% bot, and 40% of the humans can't tell a bot from a human.
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Even the MAUI story is like COVID, so many narratives that even normal people just scratch their tail and 'tune-out', whether its graphene & mRNA,, or DEW space alien start fires on Maui, all is carefully created ZOG-SHIT
"Most of the people on substack are morons too, if you haven't noticed;"
No, I haven't noticed.
Ok, lets talk MORON
This goes back to the old argument of SOCRATES that we're all ignorant only the FOOL, the village idiot, the MORON thinks he knows something.
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In all history of Satanism is "Gnossis" the school of 'knowing' those that claimed they knew the original 'know it alls' were satanic morons;
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We the humans are ignorant, because that is what makes us human, but the MORONS think they 'they know', but they don't know shit;
Socrates would argue that 97% if not more of Substack were 'fools that claimed they knew'. Enough said.
but I have noticed the ZOG shit
The funny thing about woke-homo cucks that make up +90% of sub-stack is all they got is 'down-votes', seriously its all they got;
The old joke, if you don't know who is the 'fool', at the table, or in the 'club substack', then its probably you
I guess nothing is coming if we start seeing mass arrests of these criminals and if we don't then as you imply it will only get much much worse. Decent people in the military, if indeed any ever existed, don't have much time to act against their senior officers who have quite clearly been chosen from the days of 911 onward to go along with any criminality the unelected and unelectable regime in DC gets up to. Have the US military got the balls to clean out the traitors at the top? From what I have seen of the US military this last 150 years there is not a snowball's hope in hell that they have.
all the ones that had them stood up and said no thanks to the jab, and got discharged. Everyone left will follow orders. Even stupid orders.
How many times must we hear, "But, I was just following orders"?!
This was their OWN damned community! SCREW the effing 'orders' and save your effing people!!!!!!! When you're the HERO who went AGAINST orders you SAVE LIVES and nobody is going to fire or demote you FOR THAT!!! Look what 'following orders' got you automatons?
GAHHHHHHHHHHH!
As you probably know, that was the Nuremberg defense, just following orders. Also documented by Milgram and others, obedience to authority is a powerful factor in human behavior.
I agree - and the citizens don't want to throw THEM under the bus even though THEY were personally responsible for who knows how many dying/unable to escape? Unf*cking believable. They need to be held responsible. Nobody gets to say "just following orders" anymore.
Thanks to Transcriber, a shadow-banned video from 2021 ... https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/96866.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
The video, now on Rumble, is of local first responder from Honolulu, in tears of sorrow and rage at losing his job as fire chief because he refused to take the jab. He knew that he was not only breaking a a family tradition, but he was also being legally stripped of his role and identity as a member of a community.
Firing all first responders who refused the clot-shot is a convenient way to stack the deck of personnel in favor of those who are more compliant to authority than committed to serving the community, and those who do not place a high value on critical thinking skills or creative problem solving.
Yes! Way too many strong professionals were fired over the 💉💉💉stab. They were replaced by those who obey and comply.
yes, the first responders, the medicos, the military
Bullseye.
That makes terrifying sense!!!!!!!!!!
I could see straight away that sacking those who wouldn't get it was to get rid of future dissenters when it comes to other corruption to come. It will be their downfall.
"You want answers?"
"I want the truth!"
"You can't handle the truth!"
Funny & ironic that I’ve been saying & thinking about that very scene ( Nicholson & Cruise ) for a week !! How nice
The truth is always too hot to handle alone. That's why we pass it on. That's why it ends up scorching the very earth we walk on. But we still crave it.
"The truth will set you free". It's often painful, because we have grown comfortable with the lies that demand nothing of us, where truth usually does place a demand on us to correct the wrong that hid it, for however long. For many, that's too uncomfortable,too threatening, to deal with, so they retreat angrily back to the enslavement of the lies.
The Truth is one of the manifest spirits of God, we crave it because His Spirit speaks to our spirit
That seems to be the theme of the century!
Q: What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth?
A: 6 months
The police chief Pelletier was the same chief in the Las Vegas mass shooting. No answers ever came from that guy regarding that tragic event. He's in cahoots with someone in multiple mass murders and though you won't entertain conspiracy theories, we will. He's bent as a 9 bob note...
BINGO we have a winner
chatGPT is 'trained' with facebook&twitter posts 80% BS so the chatGPT is 80% BS
4chanCHAT, a GPT trained with all 4chan posts ( 100% conspiracy) theory gets a 'truth score' of +90%, while chatGPT gets a truth score of 40%
So yes, 'conspiracy theory' seems to be the path for those that want the truth
But why would be the question, like the biblical proverbs "There is MUCH un-happiness in knowing the truth"
the why is that they want us all dead. Not for their BS CO2 story, to rid the earth of the middle class that uses too many resources. Resources they want preserved in perpetuity for their sorry asses. The CO2 story is false, but Peak Oil is correct.
Like the blind-men and the Elephant all your fuckers are partially right, but your also totally fucking wrong.
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/covid-19-blind-men-and-the-elephant
This is because 100% of your so called fucking 'knowledge' is controlled bile, they never let you see the entire elephant nor do they give you enough appendages to deduce the beast.
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Occam's Razors says "Just Listen to what they fucking say"
1.) Deagel-Report 90% USA to be eliminated by 2025 ( 340M to 90M) [ young with skills leave to get good paying jobs abroad, old die cuz they can't afford health-care, majority in citys go feral & cannibalize ]
2.) Georgia Guidestones, 500M world population by 2050
They don't have tell you why or HOW, but they DO tell you the OUTCOME the Goals and what is coming for your sorry asses, all of you wetbacks, spics, niggers, jews, gypsys, homos, pedos and shit eating politicians are going to die, 8 billion to 500M, 95% reduction, 500M survivors living in 15-min citys, and 1,000's of elite familys & their servants living in rural paradise.
Hunger games.
Hunger games indeed, and it looks like the capital is going to be Maui. No coincidence that the CIA owns 95% of the island next to Maui
Satanic, evil b@$tards. Oops, don't get me started 🤬.
"Good Man" is like the Twilight Zone episode, "To serve man" a cook book
The rule of thumb in all in-human history, but is a child-fucking, cannibal, one only needs to travel and watch humans in the 'wild' and see that they live just like their primate baboon ancestors; Masturbate, rape, cannibal, infanticide;
Civilization does attempt to 'correct' the nature of man, but the leaders of civilization for all time as now, never themselves stop the baby-fucking, or drinking of infant blood; Civilization just 'hides' it from the sheep waiting to be culled.
Oh I hadn’t hear the “9 Bob note” for a long time ! True 👍🏼
What's rather clear is that just like Las-Vegas shooting where there were dozen's of things going on at once, and it all got memory holed, and to date not one MOFU in GOV has stepped forward with 'truth'
Then they said the exact same incident commander to MAUI to run this operation.
The ONLY common denominator here in both cases is SAUDI, the LV was a SAUDI hit, and the rock-concert shooting was a cover, but there were also 1/2 a dozen casinos in the area that had their windows blown-out, which caused all the cops in the city to go in different directions, taking it longer to stop the active shooter at the concert. Given the SAUDI's plenty of time to do their business on the top-floor of the same hotel as active-shooter.
Now as to MAUI, the deal is CHINA wants a PORT, and Saudi is going to pay for it, so SAUDI had to 'soften' up the price for the land; The rest is just history, like LV and the good cop running the show a 'fixer' for CIA-SAUDI aka the "Pedo Dollar"
To say the least.
That area is very much dominated by localism. I find it hard to believe those men would even follow an order like that.
The same type of scenario occurred with Hurricane Katrina. In my humble opinion, the citizen’s rights were violated. Citizens should be able to freely move, especially during a life and death situation.
So then, why did they follow an unconscionable order, and why shouldn't they get thrown under the bus for doing so?
Aren't we supposed to believe that "just following orders" is no excuse? Of course they should be thrown under the bus.
https://youtu.be/rdpHpCvA_ZY?si=oOiEFhAPmCnlxf4J…There are many of us out there, just so you know.
It’s not about an “unconscionable order”. It’s about an illegal order(s).
"Maui Massacre"
https://realrawnews.com/2023/08/maui-massacre/
Where's the "localism" Jeremy extols?
Generally you have to have honesty before you can have a conversation.
That news link reeks of q-anon nonsense. There's no quotes from any person, no references, no links, no sources, no nothing. It's a list of claims with absolutely zero backing information.
Some Q-anon was B.S. and some of it was true. Can't discount it all.
Also generally when people do illegal stuff, they try not to leave evidence behind of it.
You should discount everything that comes from anyone who mixes lies with truth, those are the agents of the enemy.
I hope this is not true.
I've no idea. Presuming they were ordered, and did follow that order, it makes no sense based on what I know of the area and Maui in general. Everyone knows everyone there, it's small town vacation-economy.
I lived in Oahu for three years and got to know “the locals” who absolutely HATED the White Man and all of its ilk. Operation Pearl Harbor was a premeditated and orchestrated event approved of PRIOR to its commencing by the misogynistic FDR and New Deal Co., Inc. FACT. The USA is being dealt with by God.
Many layers deeper you will find the answers. FDR was directed by others; I believe from the UK. But they were acting on whose behalf? Evil has been occurring full speed since 100 AD when the Romans began to take over the Christian religion in hopes of controlling. Then came the printing press and the translation of the Bible. This lead to freedom of thought for members of The Way (Christianity) and new methods and plans had to be developed on top of the control that was already in place 500 years ago. Roman Catholic religion was spread around the world as quickly as possible and the torture, death and enslavement went along with it (Spaniards in Mexico for example). Islam fits into the mix, too. There is a puppet master and there are many puppets and they all are working to become the leader of the NWO, but will all be thrown into the lake of fire. I won't be surprised if AI gets loose and nukes us all like Terminator. Humans are parasites.
100%! With every action, there is a reaction. It’s Universal Law>✝️.
It’s also a Demon-cratic State.
Lahaina is large enough that not everyone knows everyone. I lived and worked there for a few years. Some areas of Maui are like that, but not the larger and touristier areas, at least from my experience. "Locals" is used there to mean descendants of the Hawaiians who lived there before the white man came. (I won't call them "natives" because according to the history I've read, they came and murdered the previous inhabitants long ago, at least on Maui.) But there are many white business owners/residents of Lahaina, not just "Locals." The Locals tend to love tourists of all shades, but move there to live if you look different, and you get "stink eye" from many of them. Of course there are many other Locals who are wonderful people without chips on their shoulders. The ones who hate whitey are just Hawaii's version of entitled would-be socialists or communists who want property taken away from others and given to them. They just happen to have their own unique justification for that entitlement, which has some basis in truth although it is debatable whether the Hawaiian King knew what he was doing when he signed over the land (or was coerced, or forced, etc.)
The cops are locals, they have family or friends in basically every town. Following that order means killing people they care about.
That would seem to be true. In which case I would have to wonder whether special friends or family were let through while unknowns were kept in. Very odd situation that I hope our intrepid researcher gets to the bottom of!
If they keep their mouths shut and hold to the narrative they will get to live.
And how come they didn’t perish too?
Nowadays every gov. official just,"follows orders" whether those orders violate common sense, logic or the Constitutions, state or U.S.
They assume their superiors know what they're doing
Oh, so it's climate change. Smells like blueANON bovine excrement. Locals are loyal to #pedocrats and it is not inconceivable that they were ordered to do what they did and were led to believe that doing so would save lives. If the #pedocrats are experts at but 1 thing, it is prevaricating to gaslight people into believing a false narrative.
Yes I agree they would have been manipulated but at some point one has to asked is this helping and give an on the ground report of the harm of the orders
Thankyou John for your true investigative journalism on this issue.
Sasha Latypova wrote an essay today concerning a claim from an anonymous poster that their research of GIS mapping data indicates that the fire burned mostly properties that were non-government owned/controlled and the burn lines coincided too perfectly with property lines. Their position is that the burnt properties were the smaller residential and low rise buildings in the town.
I would love your checking into this and your opinion.
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/was-weaponized-gis-used-in-lahaina?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Mr. Leake , please respond. ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
The smaller residential properties were likely little and old wooden buildings with many fire entry points - just saying. Once one house goes up all the susceptible neighbouring houses are at risk. Embers can fly and set other houses in other districts alight, setting the dry grass alight next to a property, or landing the roof cavity where the shingles had blown off from the wind. Not all solidly built apartments survived. On the drone footage one sees a series of, say, 3 story apartments around a pool, and one is flattened - bad luck - embers found an entry point. They just have a lower risk.
But I also thought the grass burn pattern looked unusual. Fire shifts around a lot with crazy winds, but I'd like to see the original ignition point.
I didn't want to channel John's investigation. Most major government buildings would be non- combustible construction (concrete, steel, block, etc.) Smaller structures in US are often wood framed and are more susceptible to fire. I don't know Lahaina construction norms however choice of building materials would definitely affect their resistance to fire.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/45n30eSpBOwO/
They seemed to have gone to extreme lengths to get this former Captain Las Vegas police department and his Deputy to Lahaina ?
That's a great video. Two other things about the Las Vegas massacre.
First, an officer who died in Las Vegas was scheduled to testify in a federal child-sex-trafficking case. The child who was trafficked with the complicity of Nevada officials wrote a book called "How the Obamas get the death penalty"; that book has been scrubbed from the internet and from my home computer!
Second, the massacre covered up an attempt on the life of the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. https://rumble.com/vos5aj-the-greatest-military-intelligence-operation-of-all-time-trump-saudi-israel.html
Charles Hank, the Maui Police Dep Chief from LV, retired after less than a year, in October 2022. He returned to Las Vegas. His replacement as Dep Chief of MPD was Wade Maeda, a local, already on the force as Captain.
John, in case you missed this comment from earlier, this is an important forensic concern:
Porcelain has a melting point of just over 3000 deg F, well in excess of steel or aluminum. In structure fires, even very hot ones, materials like ceramics and fire brick are typically found because of their extreme temperature tolerance. All of these structures had porcelain, in the form of sinks, tubs, and toilets. Granted, some sinks and tubs are now made with acrylic and other polymers, but toilets are almost always made of porcelain. Every structure likely had at least one, if not several.
In all the footage and photos of the remains, I haven’t seen any toilets, not even in pieces…
Where are all the toilets?
I've also been surprised by the lack of remains, but then, when our house burned all that wasn't rubble (mostly a black and white mess of charcoal and plaster) was the corrugated iron roof and the chimneys. The house was on stumps and collapsed to the ground and everything porcelain broke. There was one casserole dish that had a soft landing, looked perfect, but when I picked it up it broke apart. I understand most of the smaller houses in Lahaina had asphalt shingles, so that explains why there's no corrugated iron covering the rubble. Many of the houses in Lahaina seemed to have inflammable walls - I don't know whether the floors were above ground (in which case everything would collapse) or slabs.
Large amount of wood frame structures in Lahaina, not all elevated construction. If the porcelain broke, one would still expect very distinctive visible chunks. The debris appears to be quite fine grained, and a lot of ash. The question remains, and is very straightforward: what happened to all of the toilets?
Where have you found such good images that you could be sure of seeing this detail?
There is good slow drone footage of the town day after and footage of residents surveying on the ground in the days after. I never said I was “sure”—that’s your statement. I specifically said, “in all the footage and photos of the remains, I haven’t seen”…
There’s no conclusion drawn: it’s a straightforward question. Where are all of the toilets? If you can find any images or footage with toilets, even broken ones, or fragments, please do share links here.
Re "Where are all of the toilets?"
In the images I've seen, including the drone footage that I've posted multiple times, I wouldn't expect to see the toilets or remnants because the footage hasn't been good enough.
If you have seen footage of a quality where you would've expected to see a toilet, or remnants, but didn't, can you link me with it?
Thermite burns at 4500F ignited with lasers or microwaves
The day before the fire, the entire area was dump with powerered aluminum-foil as an accelerant, the beach-sand powder which is everywhere near the beach, mixed with the aluminum, creating AL-SI-0 THERMITE, which burns at 4500F
Human remains burns 1400F, above 1500F even cadaver-dogs can't smell because all the organics are burnt away.
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This operation was designed to destroy all and leave nothing not even a real body-count; All is gone to dust.
Just like Netanyahu predicted +30 years ago, "We will suck the life out of USA, until only dust remains, which the winds will blow away"
It’s not unreasonable as a hypothesis. The line of questioning I am pursuing here is more forensic than extrapolation, however. Where are all of the toilets?
Well, for starters, everyone needs to look at who the Lahaina incident commander was. That would be the Maui police chief- John Pelletier. Coincidentally (cough) Pelletier was also the incident commander at the 1 Oct Las Vegas massacre. When concertgoers tried to flee the shooting, they ran to the gates they entered through. Those gates had been closed and locked. No fire marshal would ever give an order like that. It had to come from Pelletier and whoever was above him. That sheriff, by the way, is now the governor of Nevada through provable election fraud. So what they want us to believe is no one at the Maui Police Dept was qualified to be chief. And no one from even Oahu was qualified to be chief. They had to recruit an incident commander from Las Vegas to be the chief of police. Pelletier has been a nightmare and even the news has reported on how many people have filed official complaints against him. Justice 4 Lahaina.
And here's a little more info you might find of interest. https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1696045412551884864?s=20
You know what scares me more than the cops blocking exit? That so many people obeyed. I hope people learn from this.
Q: What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth?
A: 6 months
The police chief Pelletier was the same chief in the Las Vegas mass shooting. No answers ever came from that guy regarding that tragic event. He's in cahoots with someone in multiple mass murders and though you won't entertain conspiracy theories, we will. He's bent as a 9 bob note...
Same as DC FBI head, transferred there before 1/6 from Michigan where he successfully executed kidnapping attempt of the governor 🤷🏻♂️
Check this book: https://www.amazon.com/Courage-Under-Fire-Outnumbered-January/dp/B0BGJHNBSK/
Lots of similarities between these fires and 1/6
Well if this doesn't read bio of key actors in the corruption circus:
Steven A. Sund, one of only ten men in history to hold the title of Chief of the US Capitol Police, has coordinated dozens of National Special Security Events, responded to numerous critical incidents and active shooter events, and has protected every living US president.
I do not understand what you are saying here
Can't believe I had to scroll down this far to find someone mention this. You should repeat it replying to the top comment.
"Click and destroy": The precisely planned destruction of Lahaina
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/was-weaponized-gis-used-in-lahaina
But W-H-Y???
To build "smart cities." See Real Raw News - "United States Special Forces raided Hawaii Governor Josh Green’s Honolulu mansion, which was dark and deserted. They reportedly found architectural plans for terraforming Maui into a “Smart City,” a technologically modern urban area that uses electronic methods and sensors to collect specific data."
https://realrawnews.com/2023/08/deep-state-take-down-maui/
That site is satire, if I’m not mistaken. 😉
🤯
This video shows the precision in heartbreaking detail. It is taken the day after the fire:
DAY AFTER FIRE FOOTAGE: 4K Drone Lahaina Maui Fire - Longest & Most Detailed Aerial View
https://youtu.be/7PSYNqZqAVs?si=4yXpmHubbw9g4VM2
Why covid appeard?Why untested vaxxes mandated?It seems that govts don't like the people...They think we are more than should it.Excuse my language i am from Greece.Our pm gave the idea of covid pass .This year fires burned 1.300.000 acres(195% up from the median of 10 last years...).USA and Greece at their worst time in history...
Well, you should know the mantra: Global Warming, aka Climate Change
Only in Greece? Median =Μέσος όρος ,Total burned land(acres)=Συνολική καμμένη έκταση(στρέμματα). look: https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/367439177_1019068815915102_3445942628988967623_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_eui2=AeEfv7wlkUV_fkJm_n_f6MNBKdcpMWo6juMp1ykxajqO4_CGJnmTK9lBshtDmGE9NrTJ2hgFZKLJ20db9hRG121L&_nc_ohc=Eh4ltlxhjYYAX93PuUG&_nc_ht=scontent.fath2-1.fna&oh=00_AfDvzA0vkZ_eBsrbIcUsYaUCoo8x9qkagKz0KfhRlwiZEg&oe=64F1B7DA
got a lot of history over your shoulders to carry my man ... your carry-on weight is larger. :-)
I think it's an important question to answer, but the focus on the police shows that people don't understand incident command structures.
At a fire, the police are there as support for the fire department. They would normally be helping to evacuate people, but they are not in charge. The fire chief or senior fire officer on scene is the incident commander, and whomever is the senior police officer on scene would coordinate with the incident commander.
If the reporting is accurate, that the police were blocking the main street out of Lahaina during the fire, that's absolutely inconceivable to me, as a retired police officer. Any legitimate police response would've been the opposite: making sure vehicles fleeing the fire had a clear path and didn't have to stop, and assisting anyone who needed help to flee. Even if an order came over the radio telling police on scene to block the road and trap people in the fire, there's no way they would obey. Has anyone filed a FOIA request to get the dispatch tapes from the county?? All radio communication, both police and fire, is recorded.
The much bigger question, in my view, is "where was the fire department?" I see no evidence or reporting of the massive fire department response that would always happen (in previous times, at least). The first responders from the fire department would've been on scene within a few minutes of the first reports of the fire(s), and them reporting what they saw would've rapidly escalated the dispatch to a second and third alarm, which would've had several other fire stations responding to assist. From a quick look at an online map, I see 8 other fire stations within about 30 miles of Lahaina, in addition to the county fire station in Lahaina. Numerous of those other fire stations would've been dispatched to assist the Lahaina station. Where were they?? And why is the police chief/coroner/Las Vegas mass shooting lead investigator looking like the one in charge at all of the press conferences, when he wouldn't have been in charge of the fire response? Why isn't the sincere press there hunting down the fire commanders who were in charge, and getting some answers??
The photo is bizarre. I can understand the placement of the police car on the left that's blocking the main highway going toward the fire, as they would be stopping and warning people headed toward the fire. The police car that's blocking the single lane coming from the town center onto the highway should absolutely not be there. My first thought seeing that photo is that those officers were dispatched to block the lanes going toward the fire, and one idiot cop misunderstood the intent and blocked the wrong lane. That's the most likely scenario, unless there's real evidence to lead elsewhere. People want to believe that every cop is competent and knows exactly what they're doing, and that's just not true, especially now that competency isn't even one of the primary hiring criteria.
Dear Mr. Lamb, many thanks for your thoughtful and constructive comment. The blocking of Front Street is indeed a mysterious element of this puzzle, especially given that downtown Lahaina contained the highest density of dry, wooden buildings. I just got off the phone with a witness who was forced back into downtown Lahaina on the south side of town as well. He ultimately abandoned his car and jumped into the ocean. The downed power lines can be hazardous for people on foot, but not for people in cars with rubber tires. it's a very confusing state of affairs, but perhaps a FOIA request for the dispatch tapes could be revealing. Thanks again for taking the time to share you reflections! Best regards, John Leake
If there's credible witnesses who report being blocked from driving out of town at more than one location, then it has to be considered possible that the police actions were intentional, and it must be investigated more deeply. The more I think about that photo, the more I can't reconcile how those officers didn't see that they were causing a traffic backup and preventing escape from the fire. I can't imagine a situation where that action is defensible.
From what I've seen in the press so far, I think the absence of the fire chief at the press conferences is conspicuous, as they would've been the one in charge of the fire response. That's who I'd be looking to have a private chat with, or some other fire department officer who knows what happened. Also, typically in the US there's a county or city-level fire marshal who would be in charge of the fire investigation. I also have seen no sign of the fire marshal at press conferences, nor any sign of journalists tracking him down.
My instincts tell me that police chief is a mafia lieutenant, and he will not cooperate, and same with the mayor.
It seems inconceivable that in the US a police department could be involved in committing a massacre, and yet that's exactly what I found myself investigating as a human rights investigator for the UN in Bosnia. It does happen, and Americans have long been in denial.
I suggest anybody who hasn't done so already watch two videos on YouTube by Eric West, the Hawaiian Realtor. One is an interview with Lani, who describes how the police were blocking the south end of Front St. The other interview is with "Fish", who describes that a policeman on foot blocked the north end of Front St. The cars in this picture are not blocking Front St., at all. They are blocking the Honoopiilani Hwy, going south. I know this area very well. I ride it on my bike almost every day one month a year for the last five years. The police blocked BOTH Front St. exits. They trapped people like fish in a barrel for the shooting. "Fish" broke down when he described what he saw when he returned to the area some hours later. I imagine it was all the bodies roasted in those cars, both adults and children.
I don’t understand why people didn’t overwhelm the roadblocks
Some went past them, maybe on foot. I heard those that chose to pass them made it out in time, not those that obeyed.
Jeez. Should have driven a 1 ton flatbed right through them.
Or over the curbs
The real question is going up the chain of command to see who issued the order to block the road. As much as hindsight is 20/20, I don't believe the police blocking the road were the ones to blame: they were given an order probably with an ostensible reason for it (eg power lines or another fire up ahead) which they had no reason to question. So who did know?
It's like COVID, you can't find the truth because it was a MILITARY OPERATION anybody including TRUMP who told the truth, would be a Traitor.
Same here with MAUI, the only possible explanation with 'acceralants' dumped the day before and the fires starting all over the place, an the wires on the ground with power turned off still arcing, is that lasers ( portable ) and high-energy RF microwaves were deployed from the sky or mountains by balloons, drones, airplanes, or helicopters.
Doesn't really matter, It was a MIL OPERATION, and MIL made the decisions.
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Pelletier in LV was covering for a "Saudi Assination" team and the hotel next to the concert was the real target the shootings at the concert was just cover for the shooting team. Entire US-MIL CIA DOD operation with the Saudis on USA SOIL
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Then & now, CHINA-SAUDI want Maui, US-MIL is controlled by CHINA via the CIA, this was all done years ago. In fact in 2008 when the USA went last bankrupt, China took ownership of West coast USA, and Hawaii;
US-MIL is on a lease with China and SAUDI is the investor.
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How often do you people waste your time talking about the LV concert, when that was not even the operation, ,just like the MAUI fires, is just a minor part of the operation.
In both cases hell yes they were maximizing casualty's.
The US-MIL operates on a cost per kill, they have to inflict the max number of kills that's how they earn 'atta-boy credits'.
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In summary you all will chat about COVID forever and ignore the 500LB gorilla in your living-room, and same now with MAUI you will chat about Fauci sand-fleas, but ignore the 500LB gorilla that is Saudi&China.
Just like pedo-Dollar, 70 years of USA sending children to Saudi, estimate 10k/year, and not one in 100k even think or mention about the operation.
Same now 3,000 children are gone, but lets talk about DEW space alien technology
Can you check out the guarded black fencing 8 feet high now surrounding everything around Lahiana? I watched video of it, very strange under the circumstances.
Terrible. Just saying as well, that countries are signatories to international Disaster Victim Identification laws. The country with the disaster has to ensure that all victims are found and no possible evidence is tampered with. At least, that's how it was in 2009. I understand this angle but it goes completely against the human disaster urge to rush in to help, and to return to one's property, look for one's pets that were left behind, etc. We were locked out of our town for 40 days while they slowly went about their process, or so they said.
PD taking orders from Black Rock to maximize death so properties could be bought in fire sale - owners incinerated.
Well, for starters, everyone needs to look at who the Lahaina incident commander was. That would be the Maui police chief- John Pelletier. He's also the coroner which is against state law. Coincidentally (cough) Pelletier was also the incident commander at the 1 Oct Las Vegas massacre. When concertgoers tried to flee the shooting, they ran to the gates they entered through. Those gates had been closed and locked. No fire marshal would ever give an order like that. It had to come from Pelletier and whoever was above him. That sheriff, by the way, is now the governor of Nevada through provable election fraud. So what they want us to believe is no one at the Maui Police Dept was qualified to be chief. And no one from even Oahu was qualified to be chief. They had to recruit an incident commander from Las Vegas to be the chief of police. Pelletier has been a nightmare and even the news has reported on how many people have filed official complaints against him. Justice 4 Lahaina.