It's really not surprising at all that people on the left who are highly educated and probably test to have relatively high IQs are so susceptible to propaganda on any subject. As you said, this is driven primarily by emotion. I think what often happens is that it is relatively easy to construct a very logical argument that begins with some unquestioned assumptions. Because nobody has time to investigate the implicit assumptions in any given argument, they focus instead on the logic that follows the implicit assumptions. Because of their education, they can often be persuaded by the structure of a complex logical argument. For example, the concept of CO2 is the primary driver of disturbances in the natural environment is one such implicit assumption that will always remain a question on the left. However, anybody who has studied traditional logic knows that if the initial premises of an argument are false, so is everything that follows. Other implicit assumptions might be that Vladimir Putin is a madman who is bent on world domination or that thousands of unarmed young black men are gunned down by police every year.
For many years I’ve noted (with a great sense of dread) the apparent relationship between people’s level of education and their vulnerability to forms of packaging of bullshit. Particularly to Appeal to Authority fallacies. It seems no one falls for “experts” quite like the “highly educated”
We used to call that "brainwashing" back in the '50s, Goebbels called it repeating the lie 'til it was believed; same principle. They even tried it with subliminal messaging on our Tvs in the '50s. Then I the '60s they settled on poisoning minds via the public schools, which has been the most effective means, really, to date. Convince children from the start to not question what their teachers say, and insure the teachers spread the desired "orthodoxy" unchallenged... It was going very well, 'til the messed up with the covid policies, and parents became really aware of what their kids were being taught...
Anything centralized is going to be corrupted. Decentralized is going to be free. But decentralized and aligned? Will be unstoppable.
The way we fight back is simple. It’s not easy, but it is simple. It starts with swarming. A new kind of technology where we can make our own decentralized and transparent systems separated from government and plug them into the existing corrupted ones.
Swarming isn’t fully developed yet. It isn’t trustworthy enough to scale up for large swarms yet. But it will be soon.
If you really want to fight back, learn about swarming, decentralization, and transparent systems.
We need better tools to fight back against all of the capture and corruption. We implore you to learn more about this. It will be the people once again in control once we swarm these problems together, and organize our alignment into an unstoppable leaderless organization.
As a true "leftist" myeslf, the answer is simple: these people are traitors.
They are "champagne socialists" and it started (in the US) with Clinton and "triangulation" when he basically said: "you can become individually wealthy to an obscene degree and still not hurt or take from anyone else". He was a liar and he knew it.
In so doing, he and others (Blair etc) were only selling out. Legally, it is called "fraud".
And today we have fraudulent leftists advocating censorhip and corporate tyranny. Because they have tasted the champagne. And they like it. They have sold out for short-term benefit.
Leftists will kill their mothers and eat their children if it’s sold to them as virtuous and anti-right. Anything perceived as pissing off their adversaries is like candy to a baby to them. It’s irresistible. That’s how they get suckered by the people that control them. They’ll never see it nor admit to it because they see their tribe as smarter than the others. In reality they’re just moist robots.
What all due respect, your comments are as single minded as those on the left who trash "the right" as if they were ian amorphous mass.
It is true that what is called collectively "left" has betrayed many values they used to defend, such as civil rights and liberties, social solidarity, anti-imperial struggles, etc.
But it is shortsighted to attack "the left" collectively. I still consider myself "on the left" but on these matters and likely many others I'm on your side, and horrified about how so many among them can't have enough corporate fascism and militarism.
The real brainwashing happens when those at the top succeed in making ordinary people left and right fight against each other so that we lose sight of the bigger picture and allow the corporate fascists to take control of all of us.
What we should do is fight together to defend our common values and stop deploying uninformative labels.
Oh, if only the Left were as willing to have rational discussion as you portend, then yes, the world would indeed be a better place.
But who are you kidding? Your kindly sounding argument is exactly how the Left boxes the Right into a corner every time. Remember when they said, “If you don’t like what’s on TV just change the channel.” “Nobody’s forcing you to do anything.” You got us to buy the logic, “I may disagree with what you have to say but I’ll defend your right to say it!”
It all sounded so rational, so virtuous, so sensible, right? Kinda like what you’re saying now. But, look at where we’re at now?
Conservatives caved and caved. Why? Because they always figured deep down the other side had the same goals as them, they were just going about achieving them differently. But, it was all bullshit. Psychological conditioning to anesthetize the opposition while your ilk infected every Avenue of influence.
Once firmly ensconced all of a sudden racism, white supremacy, and all other manner of ugly, filthy labels are thrown. No longer is discussion tolerated unless full agreement is achieved. It’s a zero-sum game now. Ask, JK Rowling who are the tolerant?
The banning, doxxing cement milkshake throwing, city destroying Left are to blame for all of it. If the Right is guilty of anything it’s that we didn’t push back during kinder, gentler times.
The Left now pushes Marxist “Democracy.” Funny, because if the USA was a democracy there’d be no civil rights. A democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.
Our Republic that the Left wastes no time shitting all over is the reason America led the world on civil rights.
Unfortunately there’s nothing civil about a group professing an ideological stance that under the guise of virtue and coexistence will put a boot on the faces of all that oppose them.
The Left abhors discussion, liberty, freedom or personal sovereignty. So don’t blame me for calling them out as the enemy. They did it to themselves.
The original fraud started in the 1980s when Reagan-Thatcher said "everyone can be a millionaire" (billionairs were far too rare ar that time). That was also a lie and a fraud, and it unleashed mayhem.
The "left", as it was, tried to point out this was a lie, but the "right" at the time obtained huge financial power thanks to their fraud, and which they were able to use to gain policital power (thanks to the vulnerability of "democratic" systems to money via commericial propaganda - but that is another subject).
By the 1990s, the billionaire class was arriving in full force, thanks to the Reagan-Thatcher policies, and so the left, as embodied by Clinton, Blair etc, sold out.
The billionaires, in turn, were really happy to be seen as "humanitarians" and not just money-grabbers, which is what they are.
Today there is no "left" or "right". There is just "corporate interest".
The new-fraudulent-left has identified itself with corporate interest 100%.
But, frankly, I do not see the "right" diverging from this. Rather, I see the right just hoping to transplant the left: "they did not help you corporations properly! They screwed up! Fund us instead and give us a chance!"
Hence the hatred for the populists and anyone who would support them. They call these people Deplorables and Bitter Clingers. The Corporatist Right and the Globalist Left are really two sides of the same coin. Many call them the UniParty.
Whenever a Leftist is backed into a corner, fresh out of any plausible deniability, they always pull the same tool out of the kit and exclaim, “Both sides are the same!”
The lazy always nod like bobble heads. Context matters but it also makes one think, and thinking is difficult, that’s why most people judge.
This proclamation is nothing more than sleight of hand to divert attention away from the Left’s nefarious activities.
They’re all bad! Is meant to shut the Right up and buy the Left time to make their next move. Fortunately the tactic is wearing thin.
Don’t even try to argue. If the Left had even a shred of the virtue they claim to posses they’d quit the bullying and talk to each other in the tone they reserve for their adversaries.
But, there’s not a trace of introspection to be found amongst their ranks. No self-analysis. No self-criticism. All hubris. They self anoint as the chosen and woe be to anyone that gets in their way. Right, Antifa?
One look at the Marxism rewarded on college campuses says much about their plans for the future.
But don’t look too closely at it because, they’re all bad. Everything’s bad. Bad is universal. There is no good.
Indeed, the name of the underlying ideology is neoliberalism. It is practically their religion now, and it is the root of nearly all evil since 1980 or so.
I disagree as to its beginning in the US; I place that point in the early 1920s, with the invasion of leftist Marxism onto our campuses, from whence it spread through the 20th century, via the teachers and professors they trained, and the students subjected to their views, increasingly exclusively.
Indeed, true. The weakest people find power irresistible. They love wielding it to fill the hole in their self-esteem. But it never will. So they wield more and more until total destruction ensues. It might be amusing if they didn’t torture, maim and kill millions in the process.
I can’t but agree with you. Youngsters and leftists, here in France, hate Monsanto, but are not puzzled by Big Pharma and the amount of money they won with covid shots and drugs like Remdesivir. Not even a single doubt about possible bribery or trickery. Thank-you for all you did , during the pandemic, for the sake of truth, and the honor of medicine. As a doctor, I am very grateful
"Leftists" come across to me as cultural groupies who celebrate the next big thing as if they need it as a form of stability or relief. Has anyone else noticed this?
That seems to be along the same lines, yeah I'd go with that. Lots of absent parents there too, the need for a father figure a contributory factor for state love?
Absent mothers as well. The children are institutionalised from very young ages while their mothers/parents are at work. They grow up in the hands of institutional authoritarians.
The fairly well-off ones and above look down on other people and it doesn't borher even if they really do know when ther're being assholes. MAGA people are bothered, at night, if they realize that they were assholes that day. They believe in God, and that means they believe in following the Ten Commandments. So, they tend to try to atone for daily "sins," and feel that they need to strive harder to do better the next day. I have thought about this a lot. This is really what I think it is. Aetheists do not think that way. They don't think their life will be judged by anyone, let alone God, when they die. They don't believe that people will go to Heaven or Hell. So, what do they have to lose by acting hateful?
Thank you. I found your article on risk/benefit ratio for drugs interesting, too. Some very good points that I'd never thought about. It sounds like we need another way to evaluated benefits and risks.
Cheers I really appreciate that. I just remember staring at the definition back in 2021 and thinking something was terribly wrong with it amongst other shocking statements being made at the time over here in the UK. The article (which I had no idea I was going to write) didn't do very well but can be adapted quite easily. I think the risk/benefit model in use today is battlefield medicine tbh.
It might not have done well because it was written in a different way, but that's ok. I think it would be worth it if you could produce a second version to send to someone with a lot of Substack readers, and who would feature it, because I think it is a big idea that people need to start thinking about.
Trump is responsible for the vaxxx and was totally clueless how to react to the plandemic. He had a few moments of good instinct, but caved to money, threats, whatever.
Had Covid taken only one American life, he would have been forced to wear that around his neck throughout the 2020 campaign.
Anyone who thinks that the Deep State will somehow be kinder to RFK because of his membership in America's royal family is terribly naive; they will tear him apart like jackals, just as they did to DJT.
Trump put getting re-elected above doing what was demanded of his position in the present moment while he held the reins of power. He should have fired Fauci, Birx, Sessions, Barr, Wray, Strozk, etc., kept the hcq and other therapeutics available, stopped the lockdowns. His current position on the jabs is hopelessly wrong-headed. If a candidate refuses to see a problem, how can he be expected to fix it?
I don't know what his position on the shots is now.
Had he fired even one of those you mention, each and every Covid death would have been hung around his neck; the calls for his resignation would have been deafening.
I agree. It’s easy for us to play armchair quarterbacks should have done this, should have done that.
Does anyone really believe a different president would have handled things differently? By the way, those saying it’s time to move past Trump, if you think DeSantis will be treated any better, think again. They will tear him and his family apart too.
There is no proletarian, not even a Communist movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, and for the time being permitted by money - and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact.
I 1000% disagree - you are being misled and do not Understand Trump or the MAGA vision. You @pandelis and @Lloyd Miller are fooling yourself with this Disinfo nonsense.
You're right. Being MAGA, I can tell you that even very nice people whom I like, honestly, truly, don't seem to get why we MAGA's love President Trump. I think it may be a societal-education thing. I think you have to have been treated in the past how Trump knows we have been treated, to completely understand. I don't know why President Trump in particularly understand, but I do know that he's known what it feels like to be left out no matter how hard you work.
The shame of the MAGAs is that that cannot or will not see Trump and his actions clinically. He is not what y'all believe him to be; he never was. He and I are of an age and grew up on the same island, where his family was reasonably prominent, so in the news often. I know the environment in which he was raised, how it shaped him. Frankly, he did a better job, in office, than his history would suggest, but he isn't the icon into which MAGAs have made him. Besides covid, there are a lot of things he did poorly, as well as the ones he did well. But he is not, and never will be America's "savior". He might have done a better job of that, had he done it Yhwh God's way, instead of his own, but he chose his own way. It was Yhwh God Who removed him from office, and Who had put him there to start, but his failure to follow the path set for him insured he will not be aided into office again.. His time is past.
I am one of those 70 million “y’all” and not blinded by anything. I see a man who loves his country and the forgotten men and women who made it great. He didn’t divide us by race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, etc. Sure he made mistakes, sometimes can be crude and a braggadocio. He’s like the rest of us, a sinner in need of a savior.
Yes, he is that, for all he believes, as he was wrongly taught by PCUSA he is "saved ". The shame there is they stopped teaching Yhwh God's version, before Trump or I ever attended their services, and yes I also grew up in that system.. I was blessed to realize it was empty, and seek further, unlike Trump or my own siblings. By the grace of Yhwh God, Who called me by name 7 decades ago, I learned to seek and find truth, and to see many of the pitfalls, including projected images vs the real person behind the curtain ("Wizard of Oz"). I saw that "wizard" for who he is, his father's son, decades ago, and he hasn't changed. As I have said before, he did a better job in the WH than I'd dared hope he would, knowing his roots, as I do, but t was Yhwh God Who put him into that office for a specific purpose, which he failed to carry out, and Yhwh God Who removed him from it. Since He I'll not again intervene in the cheating, Trump will never see the inside of the Oval Office again, if the left has to blow it up to prevent him. I suggested 1 responder look up Alex de Toqueville, and find out what made America great, she didn't of course, treating the suggestion with typical disdain. That's her loss, as she will remain on her misguided course, rudderless. For you, I would suggest watching films of the Nuremberg rallies from the 1930s, and see if you can figure out why I suggest that, since you tell me you are not blinded by anything. You won't need captions or subtitles to understand the point. It needs no translation. Have a blessed day.
We didn’t talk down to you like you did to us, telling us to go read this and watch that...insinuating that we are stupid. You and I are about the same age, no need to talk to me like a child.
I disagree. I am MAGA and I have no shame, whatsoever. I am not a fair-weathered friend. I am loyal to President Trump, and I will support him when things are going well, and when things aren't going well. There is no doubt in my mind of the depth of his love for Americans and the United States. Whatever mistakes he made, he was never "in on" anything about the pandemic. He did his best, and I still support him.
It's not about loyalty, although mine has been to the Constitution, not any person or office, under oath for over 50 yrs,. It's about what so many have erroneously invested in another human, particularly 1 not worry of that investment. Desiring to see America great again isn't wrong, perse; it's failing to understand what made her great in the 1st place, and pursuing that again, that's the shame here. Look up Alex de Toqueville, and his finding about why America was a great nation; he made a study on it in the 1st half of the 19th century.
You said, "It's about what so many have erroneously invested in another human, particularly 1 not worry of that investment."
But you see, Sandra, you are proclaiming that 70 million people have "invested erroneously" in someone "not worthy of their investment and that those 70 million mixed up people had better stop their work and go "look up Alex de Toqueville" !!!!
in case you missed it, it is called the uniparty ... yes, there are two polar sides of the coin, but it is still same one coin ... here it is in few minutes how it really works ...
That's the political view, not the Biblical view. Our Creator sees left and right differently. I'm aware it's an uniparty in DC, it was when I was stationed in the metro area. But Yhwh God views them in the context of righteous or unrighteous; good or evil.
I am absolutely not on the wrong path. Whether or not you hoose to believe in Him for now, HE knows you quite well, and 1 day you will acknowledge Him, as will every other human who has ever lived.
Generally, people who are academically educated, and don't have a lot of hands-on life/work experience, tend to be much harder to talk sense to. At least this has been my experience. And I speak as a professor that has worked in many different kinds of areas: construction, auto body work, carpentry, dry-wall, renovating houses, demolishing houses, long distance trucking etc. etc. They seem to acquire a veneer of "knowledge" that is often no more than a kind of vocabulary that fits into the situation they are part of. All surveys/polls done on the Gulf War and the Iraq War, for instance, consistently showed that people with less formal education tended to be against the war while those with more were in favor. Obvious reason there: who enlists in the military?
You have to realize that "the left" of today is not the same as "the left" of yesterday. An entire generation or 2 have moved on since the progressives of the 60s. Previously, back in the 60s and 70s, the Democratic party was the party of freedom fighters and liberal thinkers who wanted to bring freedom. equality, peace, and justice to all people. Since that time, those in control of the Democratic party (which are no longer "the people") have tried to maintain the same public face while their goals have totally shifted. The ones running the party now are nothing short of mafia bosses. They are in bed with media and the controllers of large corporations. You can be sure that every one of these is looking to maximize their dollars. They don't give a DAMN about freedom, injustice, equality, or peace. That is blatantly obvious, but they keep up the charade and the facade to get votes from people who are too busy or too lazy to care about the truth. If people would just vote for results instead of false talk (lies), we would be OK. But most people just want to watch the "entertainment" news which is controlled by the same groups pushing the agenda. One thing that Covid showed us, and that was hard to fathom, but is nonetheless now clear...those in control really don't care how many of us suffer and die. They don't mind killing children and babies, they don't mind depriving us of proven meds when we need them. Anything to push their agenda. They really DON'T care about us at all! All they care about is themselves, and their evil agenda just so happens to make all of them filthy rich. What a surprise! In short, "the left" is no longer "the left". The label was given years ago and associated with a political party that is not even close to the same as they were 50 years ago. This is NOT your parent's Democratic party. Time to grow up and realize that.
Both parties stopped being "for the people" in any sense of that term in 1871, and the REgrssives of the '60s were n full "advance to the rear" mode; none of their projects being "new" or "modern" at all. Quheleth got it right: there is nothing new under the sun... only he penned that about 3,000 yrs ago. You may be more familiar with his birth name than his en name: King Solomon of Israel.
They believe that if the population is reduced to less than one billion, climate change due to humans will stop. It won't. Nor will the rate of warming slow. We are past all tipping points. As Guy McPherson says, all there is is love.
Excuse me? I am an "old person", 1 who learned o type on an old standard upright typewriter, before such were even electrics, remember when most families didn't have a TV, or more than 1 car and telephones were party lines secured to the wall by cables! There were no area codes or zip codes yet. But here I am, engaging you via the internet, aware of the current geopolitics, and able, still to discern between a propagandist lie and truth. I have seen and made many changes over the 7+ decades of my life, some for good, more, purely to do harm. Do not mistake rejection of premises that do harm for "inability to change"; they are not the same at all.
Apologies, but you also HAVE to include Environmental Complex as it is part of the "Big (Sacred) Three" in terms of money, corruption, control, and the oligarchs. And the Left will ABSOLUTELY support some weird shut down based off a "climate emergency." It's part of their new religion. And they'll take it right in the rear ALL. DAY. LONG. from the über elite. #StockholmSyndrome
The REAL explanation is a simple one: both groups are DEMON-POSSESSED. Both take great delight in defiling and destroying anything/anyone that is GOOD.
See how they react - naturally react, not faking it - to any human or any object that is innocent, pure and wholesome. The very EXISTENCE of such loveliness offends them to their very core.
THAT’S how you know it’s demon-possession. You don’t need to belong to a particular faith - or to any faith at all, really - to perceive what’s right before your very eyes.
Keep your family’s children - or any child in your care for that matter - far, far away from these depraved minions of satan. It’s your OBLIGATION.
There is no left/right, liberals/conservatives, Democrats/Republicans. There are only the powerful and the powerless. We all get to decide which group we belong to. The oligarchs are the ones who learned at a young age that divide and conquer is the most effective strategy to steal wealth from the masses. They're winning, yet again.
"There is no proletarian, not even a Communist movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, and for the time being permitted by money - and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact."
Leftists think that they will be rewarded by the evil dark ones, ignorance put their trust in evil man. DO NOT TRUST VAXs, DO NOT TRUST govts.,, DO NOT TRUST ANY EVILS. Prov. 3 Verses 5 to 6 [5] Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. UNITE WITH LIKE MINDED BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WE THE PEOPLE, FOR OUR GOD GIVEN AMERICAN JUSTICE,, Being a billionair or wealthy does not make you honest,,,it brings the sickness of greed etc,,. DO NOT COMPY TO COMMUNIST COVID BULL SHIT WE ARE AMERICANS NOT COMMIE ATHEIST ABOMINATIONS
I think the about face is because the left's two weakness (among more obvious others) is: 1) the desire to to virtue signal their own self-righteousness at every turn--pharma enabled this; 2) leftists are pro-globalist hive minded. Seeing what they wanted to believe about Big Pharma, that they could work miracles.
It's really not surprising at all that people on the left who are highly educated and probably test to have relatively high IQs are so susceptible to propaganda on any subject. As you said, this is driven primarily by emotion. I think what often happens is that it is relatively easy to construct a very logical argument that begins with some unquestioned assumptions. Because nobody has time to investigate the implicit assumptions in any given argument, they focus instead on the logic that follows the implicit assumptions. Because of their education, they can often be persuaded by the structure of a complex logical argument. For example, the concept of CO2 is the primary driver of disturbances in the natural environment is one such implicit assumption that will always remain a question on the left. However, anybody who has studied traditional logic knows that if the initial premises of an argument are false, so is everything that follows. Other implicit assumptions might be that Vladimir Putin is a madman who is bent on world domination or that thousands of unarmed young black men are gunned down by police every year.
For many years I’ve noted (with a great sense of dread) the apparent relationship between people’s level of education and their vulnerability to forms of packaging of bullshit. Particularly to Appeal to Authority fallacies. It seems no one falls for “experts” quite like the “highly educated”
Because the people with the 'education' got to where they are through obedience, or at the least, joining-in-with-learning-joy with the authoritarian.
spam? maybe tell us a few of these things, rather than offering only a link
YOU HAVE NO CLUE
We used to call that "brainwashing" back in the '50s, Goebbels called it repeating the lie 'til it was believed; same principle. They even tried it with subliminal messaging on our Tvs in the '50s. Then I the '60s they settled on poisoning minds via the public schools, which has been the most effective means, really, to date. Convince children from the start to not question what their teachers say, and insure the teachers spread the desired "orthodoxy" unchallenged... It was going very well, 'til the messed up with the covid policies, and parents became really aware of what their kids were being taught...
Well said.
We need social credit scores.... for politicians.
Anything centralized is going to be corrupted. Decentralized is going to be free. But decentralized and aligned? Will be unstoppable.
The way we fight back is simple. It’s not easy, but it is simple. It starts with swarming. A new kind of technology where we can make our own decentralized and transparent systems separated from government and plug them into the existing corrupted ones.
Swarming isn’t fully developed yet. It isn’t trustworthy enough to scale up for large swarms yet. But it will be soon.
If you really want to fight back, learn about swarming, decentralization, and transparent systems.
We need better tools to fight back against all of the capture and corruption. We implore you to learn more about this. It will be the people once again in control once we swarm these problems together, and organize our alignment into an unstoppable leaderless organization.
Please. PLEASE. Understand and discuss:
https://open.substack.com/pub/joshketry/p/human-swarm-intelligence-the-most?r=7oa9d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Excellent summary!
As a true "leftist" myeslf, the answer is simple: these people are traitors.
They are "champagne socialists" and it started (in the US) with Clinton and "triangulation" when he basically said: "you can become individually wealthy to an obscene degree and still not hurt or take from anyone else". He was a liar and he knew it.
In so doing, he and others (Blair etc) were only selling out. Legally, it is called "fraud".
And today we have fraudulent leftists advocating censorhip and corporate tyranny. Because they have tasted the champagne. And they like it. They have sold out for short-term benefit.
Leftists will kill their mothers and eat their children if it’s sold to them as virtuous and anti-right. Anything perceived as pissing off their adversaries is like candy to a baby to them. It’s irresistible. That’s how they get suckered by the people that control them. They’ll never see it nor admit to it because they see their tribe as smarter than the others. In reality they’re just moist robots.
What all due respect, your comments are as single minded as those on the left who trash "the right" as if they were ian amorphous mass.
It is true that what is called collectively "left" has betrayed many values they used to defend, such as civil rights and liberties, social solidarity, anti-imperial struggles, etc.
But it is shortsighted to attack "the left" collectively. I still consider myself "on the left" but on these matters and likely many others I'm on your side, and horrified about how so many among them can't have enough corporate fascism and militarism.
The real brainwashing happens when those at the top succeed in making ordinary people left and right fight against each other so that we lose sight of the bigger picture and allow the corporate fascists to take control of all of us.
What we should do is fight together to defend our common values and stop deploying uninformative labels.
Oh, if only the Left were as willing to have rational discussion as you portend, then yes, the world would indeed be a better place.
But who are you kidding? Your kindly sounding argument is exactly how the Left boxes the Right into a corner every time. Remember when they said, “If you don’t like what’s on TV just change the channel.” “Nobody’s forcing you to do anything.” You got us to buy the logic, “I may disagree with what you have to say but I’ll defend your right to say it!”
It all sounded so rational, so virtuous, so sensible, right? Kinda like what you’re saying now. But, look at where we’re at now?
Conservatives caved and caved. Why? Because they always figured deep down the other side had the same goals as them, they were just going about achieving them differently. But, it was all bullshit. Psychological conditioning to anesthetize the opposition while your ilk infected every Avenue of influence.
Once firmly ensconced all of a sudden racism, white supremacy, and all other manner of ugly, filthy labels are thrown. No longer is discussion tolerated unless full agreement is achieved. It’s a zero-sum game now. Ask, JK Rowling who are the tolerant?
The banning, doxxing cement milkshake throwing, city destroying Left are to blame for all of it. If the Right is guilty of anything it’s that we didn’t push back during kinder, gentler times.
The Left now pushes Marxist “Democracy.” Funny, because if the USA was a democracy there’d be no civil rights. A democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.
Our Republic that the Left wastes no time shitting all over is the reason America led the world on civil rights.
Unfortunately there’s nothing civil about a group professing an ideological stance that under the guise of virtue and coexistence will put a boot on the faces of all that oppose them.
The Left abhors discussion, liberty, freedom or personal sovereignty. So don’t blame me for calling them out as the enemy. They did it to themselves.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard truer words explained so brilliantly! Gotta snapshot this!
The original fraud started in the 1980s when Reagan-Thatcher said "everyone can be a millionaire" (billionairs were far too rare ar that time). That was also a lie and a fraud, and it unleashed mayhem.
The "left", as it was, tried to point out this was a lie, but the "right" at the time obtained huge financial power thanks to their fraud, and which they were able to use to gain policital power (thanks to the vulnerability of "democratic" systems to money via commericial propaganda - but that is another subject).
By the 1990s, the billionaire class was arriving in full force, thanks to the Reagan-Thatcher policies, and so the left, as embodied by Clinton, Blair etc, sold out.
The billionaires, in turn, were really happy to be seen as "humanitarians" and not just money-grabbers, which is what they are.
Today there is no "left" or "right". There is just "corporate interest".
The new-fraudulent-left has identified itself with corporate interest 100%.
But, frankly, I do not see the "right" diverging from this. Rather, I see the right just hoping to transplant the left: "they did not help you corporations properly! They screwed up! Fund us instead and give us a chance!"
Hence the hatred for the populists and anyone who would support them. They call these people Deplorables and Bitter Clingers. The Corporatist Right and the Globalist Left are really two sides of the same coin. Many call them the UniParty.
Two wings, same bird, basically.
Whenever a Leftist is backed into a corner, fresh out of any plausible deniability, they always pull the same tool out of the kit and exclaim, “Both sides are the same!”
The lazy always nod like bobble heads. Context matters but it also makes one think, and thinking is difficult, that’s why most people judge.
This proclamation is nothing more than sleight of hand to divert attention away from the Left’s nefarious activities.
They’re all bad! Is meant to shut the Right up and buy the Left time to make their next move. Fortunately the tactic is wearing thin.
Don’t even try to argue. If the Left had even a shred of the virtue they claim to posses they’d quit the bullying and talk to each other in the tone they reserve for their adversaries.
But, there’s not a trace of introspection to be found amongst their ranks. No self-analysis. No self-criticism. All hubris. They self anoint as the chosen and woe be to anyone that gets in their way. Right, Antifa?
One look at the Marxism rewarded on college campuses says much about their plans for the future.
But don’t look too closely at it because, they’re all bad. Everything’s bad. Bad is universal. There is no good.
Unless the Left says there is.
"Left" and "right" now sit on the opposite diameter of the political circle to the parties captured by corporates.
Indeed, the name of the underlying ideology is neoliberalism. It is practically their religion now, and it is the root of nearly all evil since 1980 or so.
So true. Just seeing how the phony "left" mercilessly ratfucked the genuine leftists like Bernie Sanders, will tell you all you need to know.
I disagree as to its beginning in the US; I place that point in the early 1920s, with the invasion of leftist Marxism onto our campuses, from whence it spread through the 20th century, via the teachers and professors they trained, and the students subjected to their views, increasingly exclusively.
Because they know their lives are short term
Because leftists love power. The cults of the 60s and 70s have morphed into the modern cults of climate, covid, trans, blm, DEI, ESG, etc: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-become-a-cult-leader
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Indeed, true. The weakest people find power irresistible. They love wielding it to fill the hole in their self-esteem. But it never will. So they wield more and more until total destruction ensues. It might be amusing if they didn’t torture, maim and kill millions in the process.
I can’t but agree with you. Youngsters and leftists, here in France, hate Monsanto, but are not puzzled by Big Pharma and the amount of money they won with covid shots and drugs like Remdesivir. Not even a single doubt about possible bribery or trickery. Thank-you for all you did , during the pandemic, for the sake of truth, and the honor of medicine. As a doctor, I am very grateful
Dr Francis Banon, gastro-enterologist
Did they miss the bit about Pfizer denying responsibility over decades for the deaths of children in Nigeria from their drug trials?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/11/pfizer-nigeria-meningitis-drug-compensation
"Leftists" come across to me as cultural groupies who celebrate the next big thing as if they need it as a form of stability or relief. Has anyone else noticed this?
Look up Peter Breggins on this topic.
They have no religion, so they embrace every cause that comes down the road and turn it into their own faith.
Quite frankly, it's tedious for the rest of us.
That seems to be along the same lines, yeah I'd go with that. Lots of absent parents there too, the need for a father figure a contributory factor for state love?
Absent mothers as well. The children are institutionalised from very young ages while their mothers/parents are at work. They grow up in the hands of institutional authoritarians.
I hadn't thought about the lack of a father figure; there might be something to this.
This entire discussion between Naomi Wolf and Peter Breggin is worth your while; however, from about 6:55 until about 10:45 explains an awful lot about the topic (IMHO): https://rumble.com/v1sapnc-the-psychology-of-the-covid-crimes.html
Thanks for sourcing will watch and consider the dialogue. Cheers
I have to point out that I don't agree with everything Dr. Breggin says here, but I think his analyses of behaviors here are spot on.
The fairly well-off ones and above look down on other people and it doesn't borher even if they really do know when ther're being assholes. MAGA people are bothered, at night, if they realize that they were assholes that day. They believe in God, and that means they believe in following the Ten Commandments. So, they tend to try to atone for daily "sins," and feel that they need to strive harder to do better the next day. I have thought about this a lot. This is really what I think it is. Aetheists do not think that way. They don't think their life will be judged by anyone, let alone God, when they die. They don't believe that people will go to Heaven or Hell. So, what do they have to lose by acting hateful?
Something to think about, an interesting analysis, thank you Jennifer Jones.
Thank you. I found your article on risk/benefit ratio for drugs interesting, too. Some very good points that I'd never thought about. It sounds like we need another way to evaluated benefits and risks.
Cheers I really appreciate that. I just remember staring at the definition back in 2021 and thinking something was terribly wrong with it amongst other shocking statements being made at the time over here in the UK. The article (which I had no idea I was going to write) didn't do very well but can be adapted quite easily. I think the risk/benefit model in use today is battlefield medicine tbh.
It might not have done well because it was written in a different way, but that's ok. I think it would be worth it if you could produce a second version to send to someone with a lot of Substack readers, and who would feature it, because I think it is a big idea that people need to start thinking about.
Hi Jennifer, that's a really great idea. Let me have a think about this and see what I can come up with.
left and right are arms of same body ...
Trump is responsible for the vaxxx and was totally clueless how to react to the plandemic. He had a few moments of good instinct, but caved to money, threats, whatever.
He was in the political fight of his life.
Had Covid taken only one American life, he would have been forced to wear that around his neck throughout the 2020 campaign.
Anyone who thinks that the Deep State will somehow be kinder to RFK because of his membership in America's royal family is terribly naive; they will tear him apart like jackals, just as they did to DJT.
Trump put getting re-elected above doing what was demanded of his position in the present moment while he held the reins of power. He should have fired Fauci, Birx, Sessions, Barr, Wray, Strozk, etc., kept the hcq and other therapeutics available, stopped the lockdowns. His current position on the jabs is hopelessly wrong-headed. If a candidate refuses to see a problem, how can he be expected to fix it?
I don't know what his position on the shots is now.
Had he fired even one of those you mention, each and every Covid death would have been hung around his neck; the calls for his resignation would have been deafening.
The criticism he received on a daily basis about everything was deafening. The thing people liked most about Trump was his notoriously thick skin.
His position is they saved us from the pandemic and are still good. HIs finest achievement.
They "saved" no one from anything! The harm done by that cabal is incalculable. We're only beginning to see the results of the damage...
You have not kept up with his current position.
Has he recently denounced the jabs, his "three beautiful vaccines"? If so please link. That would be great news.
I didn't say that.
At least RFK Jr. has deep knowledge. The Deep State probably fears him which explains the shameful way he was treated at the Congressional Hearing.
I think RFK's calling is to be the AG who prosecutes the Klingons behind this to the fullest extent of the law.
That would be great. Fill the shoes of his dad.
I agree. It’s easy for us to play armchair quarterbacks should have done this, should have done that.
Does anyone really believe a different president would have handled things differently? By the way, those saying it’s time to move past Trump, if you think DeSantis will be treated any better, think again. They will tear him and his family apart too.
Trump did nothing. Fauci, Birx and Redfield humiliated him in public. If Trump had the gonads he pretended on The Apprentice he would have fired them.
Which "good instinct" was that? From an RN's perspective, the whole fiasco as wrong from the start.
He would say things like: "You don't shutdown America" Then allowed it shut down.
Yes, I know, and then there was "Operation Warp Speed", 1 of his more lethal ideas...
Yes. That was my point.
There is no proletarian, not even a Communist movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, and for the time being permitted by money - and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact.
Oswald Spengler
Ya, but the ruling class conspiracy seems to have really abandoned the right this time to move in a far more explicit tyrannous direction.
I 1000% disagree - you are being misled and do not Understand Trump or the MAGA vision. You @pandelis and @Lloyd Miller are fooling yourself with this Disinfo nonsense.
You're right. Being MAGA, I can tell you that even very nice people whom I like, honestly, truly, don't seem to get why we MAGA's love President Trump. I think it may be a societal-education thing. I think you have to have been treated in the past how Trump knows we have been treated, to completely understand. I don't know why President Trump in particularly understand, but I do know that he's known what it feels like to be left out no matter how hard you work.
The shame of the MAGAs is that that cannot or will not see Trump and his actions clinically. He is not what y'all believe him to be; he never was. He and I are of an age and grew up on the same island, where his family was reasonably prominent, so in the news often. I know the environment in which he was raised, how it shaped him. Frankly, he did a better job, in office, than his history would suggest, but he isn't the icon into which MAGAs have made him. Besides covid, there are a lot of things he did poorly, as well as the ones he did well. But he is not, and never will be America's "savior". He might have done a better job of that, had he done it Yhwh God's way, instead of his own, but he chose his own way. It was Yhwh God Who removed him from office, and Who had put him there to start, but his failure to follow the path set for him insured he will not be aided into office again.. His time is past.
I am one of those 70 million “y’all” and not blinded by anything. I see a man who loves his country and the forgotten men and women who made it great. He didn’t divide us by race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, etc. Sure he made mistakes, sometimes can be crude and a braggadocio. He’s like the rest of us, a sinner in need of a savior.
Yes, he is that, for all he believes, as he was wrongly taught by PCUSA he is "saved ". The shame there is they stopped teaching Yhwh God's version, before Trump or I ever attended their services, and yes I also grew up in that system.. I was blessed to realize it was empty, and seek further, unlike Trump or my own siblings. By the grace of Yhwh God, Who called me by name 7 decades ago, I learned to seek and find truth, and to see many of the pitfalls, including projected images vs the real person behind the curtain ("Wizard of Oz"). I saw that "wizard" for who he is, his father's son, decades ago, and he hasn't changed. As I have said before, he did a better job in the WH than I'd dared hope he would, knowing his roots, as I do, but t was Yhwh God Who put him into that office for a specific purpose, which he failed to carry out, and Yhwh God Who removed him from it. Since He I'll not again intervene in the cheating, Trump will never see the inside of the Oval Office again, if the left has to blow it up to prevent him. I suggested 1 responder look up Alex de Toqueville, and find out what made America great, she didn't of course, treating the suggestion with typical disdain. That's her loss, as she will remain on her misguided course, rudderless. For you, I would suggest watching films of the Nuremberg rallies from the 1930s, and see if you can figure out why I suggest that, since you tell me you are not blinded by anything. You won't need captions or subtitles to understand the point. It needs no translation. Have a blessed day.
We didn’t talk down to you like you did to us, telling us to go read this and watch that...insinuating that we are stupid. You and I are about the same age, no need to talk to me like a child.
I am blessed every day by my saviour JESUS.
I disagree. I am MAGA and I have no shame, whatsoever. I am not a fair-weathered friend. I am loyal to President Trump, and I will support him when things are going well, and when things aren't going well. There is no doubt in my mind of the depth of his love for Americans and the United States. Whatever mistakes he made, he was never "in on" anything about the pandemic. He did his best, and I still support him.
It's not about loyalty, although mine has been to the Constitution, not any person or office, under oath for over 50 yrs,. It's about what so many have erroneously invested in another human, particularly 1 not worry of that investment. Desiring to see America great again isn't wrong, perse; it's failing to understand what made her great in the 1st place, and pursuing that again, that's the shame here. Look up Alex de Toqueville, and his finding about why America was a great nation; he made a study on it in the 1st half of the 19th century.
You said, "It's about what so many have erroneously invested in another human, particularly 1 not worry of that investment."
But you see, Sandra, you are proclaiming that 70 million people have "invested erroneously" in someone "not worthy of their investment and that those 70 million mixed up people had better stop their work and go "look up Alex de Toqueville" !!!!
WOW. That was a great one.
Let's call a spade a SPADE!
Not when you view them as ideologies, in the Biblical sense of left or right; in that context, they are clearly polar opposites.
in case you missed it, it is called the uniparty ... yes, there are two polar sides of the coin, but it is still same one coin ... here it is in few minutes how it really works ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
That's the political view, not the Biblical view. Our Creator sees left and right differently. I'm aware it's an uniparty in DC, it was when I was stationed in the metro area. But Yhwh God views them in the context of righteous or unrighteous; good or evil.
you lost me at Yhwh ... try to find something right, you are heading the wrong path ...
I am absolutely not on the wrong path. Whether or not you hoose to believe in Him for now, HE knows you quite well, and 1 day you will acknowledge Him, as will every other human who has ever lived.
yhmw???
give me a break ... whats next mispelling God ... go away ...
Trump won't say that anymore.
do you guarantee it?
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Generally, people who are academically educated, and don't have a lot of hands-on life/work experience, tend to be much harder to talk sense to. At least this has been my experience. And I speak as a professor that has worked in many different kinds of areas: construction, auto body work, carpentry, dry-wall, renovating houses, demolishing houses, long distance trucking etc. etc. They seem to acquire a veneer of "knowledge" that is often no more than a kind of vocabulary that fits into the situation they are part of. All surveys/polls done on the Gulf War and the Iraq War, for instance, consistently showed that people with less formal education tended to be against the war while those with more were in favor. Obvious reason there: who enlists in the military?
They are "above" risking their lives.
quite so!
You have to realize that "the left" of today is not the same as "the left" of yesterday. An entire generation or 2 have moved on since the progressives of the 60s. Previously, back in the 60s and 70s, the Democratic party was the party of freedom fighters and liberal thinkers who wanted to bring freedom. equality, peace, and justice to all people. Since that time, those in control of the Democratic party (which are no longer "the people") have tried to maintain the same public face while their goals have totally shifted. The ones running the party now are nothing short of mafia bosses. They are in bed with media and the controllers of large corporations. You can be sure that every one of these is looking to maximize their dollars. They don't give a DAMN about freedom, injustice, equality, or peace. That is blatantly obvious, but they keep up the charade and the facade to get votes from people who are too busy or too lazy to care about the truth. If people would just vote for results instead of false talk (lies), we would be OK. But most people just want to watch the "entertainment" news which is controlled by the same groups pushing the agenda. One thing that Covid showed us, and that was hard to fathom, but is nonetheless now clear...those in control really don't care how many of us suffer and die. They don't mind killing children and babies, they don't mind depriving us of proven meds when we need them. Anything to push their agenda. They really DON'T care about us at all! All they care about is themselves, and their evil agenda just so happens to make all of them filthy rich. What a surprise! In short, "the left" is no longer "the left". The label was given years ago and associated with a political party that is not even close to the same as they were 50 years ago. This is NOT your parent's Democratic party. Time to grow up and realize that.
Both parties stopped being "for the people" in any sense of that term in 1871, and the REgrssives of the '60s were n full "advance to the rear" mode; none of their projects being "new" or "modern" at all. Quheleth got it right: there is nothing new under the sun... only he penned that about 3,000 yrs ago. You may be more familiar with his birth name than his en name: King Solomon of Israel.
They believe that if the population is reduced to less than one billion, climate change due to humans will stop. It won't. Nor will the rate of warming slow. We are past all tipping points. As Guy McPherson says, all there is is love.
The old people can't. They cannot accept change..that what they believe is no longer true
Excuse me? I am an "old person", 1 who learned o type on an old standard upright typewriter, before such were even electrics, remember when most families didn't have a TV, or more than 1 car and telephones were party lines secured to the wall by cables! There were no area codes or zip codes yet. But here I am, engaging you via the internet, aware of the current geopolitics, and able, still to discern between a propagandist lie and truth. I have seen and made many changes over the 7+ decades of my life, some for good, more, purely to do harm. Do not mistake rejection of premises that do harm for "inability to change"; they are not the same at all.
I;m an old person too. But the majority of my peer group cannot change their life long belief systems...just my observations.
Apologies, but you also HAVE to include Environmental Complex as it is part of the "Big (Sacred) Three" in terms of money, corruption, control, and the oligarchs. And the Left will ABSOLUTELY support some weird shut down based off a "climate emergency." It's part of their new religion. And they'll take it right in the rear ALL. DAY. LONG. from the über elite. #StockholmSyndrome
The REAL explanation is a simple one: both groups are DEMON-POSSESSED. Both take great delight in defiling and destroying anything/anyone that is GOOD.
See how they react - naturally react, not faking it - to any human or any object that is innocent, pure and wholesome. The very EXISTENCE of such loveliness offends them to their very core.
THAT’S how you know it’s demon-possession. You don’t need to belong to a particular faith - or to any faith at all, really - to perceive what’s right before your very eyes.
Keep your family’s children - or any child in your care for that matter - far, far away from these depraved minions of satan. It’s your OBLIGATION.
There is no left/right, liberals/conservatives, Democrats/Republicans. There are only the powerful and the powerless. We all get to decide which group we belong to. The oligarchs are the ones who learned at a young age that divide and conquer is the most effective strategy to steal wealth from the masses. They're winning, yet again.
Because leftists are collectivists. Ted Kaczynski has written extensively on the leftist thought process. It fits perfectly with their being.
"There is no proletarian, not even a Communist movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, and for the time being permitted by money - and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact."
Oswald Spengler
covid fiasco more ...
Leftists think that they will be rewarded by the evil dark ones, ignorance put their trust in evil man. DO NOT TRUST VAXs, DO NOT TRUST govts.,, DO NOT TRUST ANY EVILS. Prov. 3 Verses 5 to 6 [5] Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. UNITE WITH LIKE MINDED BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WE THE PEOPLE, FOR OUR GOD GIVEN AMERICAN JUSTICE,, Being a billionair or wealthy does not make you honest,,,it brings the sickness of greed etc,,. DO NOT COMPY TO COMMUNIST COVID BULL SHIT WE ARE AMERICANS NOT COMMIE ATHEIST ABOMINATIONS
I think the about face is because the left's two weakness (among more obvious others) is: 1) the desire to to virtue signal their own self-righteousness at every turn--pharma enabled this; 2) leftists are pro-globalist hive minded. Seeing what they wanted to believe about Big Pharma, that they could work miracles.