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It’s disappointing that Dr. McCullough is touting Oseltamivir (Tamiflu). Oseltamivir (Tamiflu) never should have been approved by FDA or any other regulator. The drug trials were defined by the same kinds of problems that infect so many other highly profitable drugs peddled by the pharmaceutical industry. Dr. William Makis says pointedly “Tamiflu doesn’t work.” It doesn’t reduce hospitalization. It does cause many very serious adverse effects. It should not be in anybody’s pandemic preparedness kit.

Here’s Dr. Makis in a short video earlier this month explaining why Oseltamivir (Tamiflu) is dangerous and has no benefits. https://makismd.substack.com/p/new-podcast-15-minutes-with-drmakis-132. Among other sources, Dr. Makis cites a JAMA Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis published June 12, 2023 titled "Evaluation of Oseltamivir Used to Prevent Hospitalization in Outpatients With Influenza: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis,” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37306992/. According to the JAMA article:

"Conclusions and relevance: In this systematic review and meta-analysis among influenza-infected outpatients, oseltamivir was not associated with a reduced risk of hospitalization but was associated with increased gastrointestinal adverse events. To justify continued use for this purpose, an adequately powered trial in a suitably high-risk population is justified."

The Indian Journal of Pharmacology recently elaborated on the many problems associated with Oseltamivir (Tamiflu) in an article suitably titled, “The Tamiflu Fiasco and Lessons Learnt” at https://journals.lww.com/iphr/fulltext/2015/47010/the_tamiflu_fiasco_and_lessons_learnt.3.aspx. The Indian Journal of Pharmacology relies in part on a Cochrane Review which also was highly critical of this dangerous, ineffective drug. Here are some excerpts about the dangers of Oseltamivir (Tamiflu) from the recent article:

"A recent Cochrane review and related articles have questioned the risk-benefit ratio of the drug, besides raising doubts about the regulatory decision of approving it.”

"Serious adverse events were first reported during post-marketing surveillance from Japan, UK, and subsequently from other places although most of the published articles did not report them. A recent Cochrane review and a series of articles in British Medical Journal (BMJ) have revealed the truth behind oseltamivir success story, which incidentally is one of the highest revenue earners for Roche."

"Post-marketing surveillance had uncovered adverse effects like raised liver enzymes, hepatitis, neuropsychiatric events, cardiac arrhythmia, skin hypersensitivity reactions including toxic epidermal necrolysis, Stevens-Johnson syndrome and erythema multiforme, metabolic side effects and renal events.[24] In some cases, increased QTc prolongation was seen in ECG in the treatment group compared with placebo during on-treatment periods. The most important serious adverse events which raised concerns were neuropsychiatric events such as depressed mood, behavior disturbance, panic attack, suicidal ideation, delusion, delirium, convulsion, and encephalitis."

"In other words, benefits had been overplayed, and harms had been underplayed in the reporting of the trials.[23]”

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I concur -- I would appreciate an explanation from Dr. McCullough. He lost credibility in my eyes by recommending Tamiflu.

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Interesting that you go off topic to bad mouth Dr McCullough. Doing so says more about you than it does about him.

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Hey Gary - we Americans get to criticize and "bad mouth" anybody we want, especially public figures who push Big Pharma products to purportedly cure us of non-existent illnesses like "bird flu." Peter McCullough is just a human being like all of us - he's not a prophet. Your profile says you're a Christian. Go read Matthew 7:15. And then repent for impugning the motives of lovely Sandy and insulting her. "Off topic" - screw you - the topic is whatever we want it to be. What a brave man, defending the honor of a celebrity doctor with 100K subscribers against a woman with good faith concerns. Fuck you.

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I am truly interested in his response. I am here because I respect his opinion. I bought both of his medical kits, I am thankful to have them.

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I get it. Thanks for your reply. Yet what I appreciate about Dr. McCullough is that he is not stuck in his ego and isn't gullible as so many medical professionals are. This has been revealed in his seeing the truth about how vaccinations have been promoted falsely by the biopharmaceutical complex. He has come around to this understanding. The germ theory is not a cut and dried as big pharma has tried to convince us it is. edit: additionally Sandy, I appreciate you inquiry - given the nature of the pandemic and the hundreds of lives it has taken needlessly along with the huge numbers of legitimate medical practices that it has ruined or at least tried to, I find myself sensitive and protective of those medical professionals that were and still are under gross attack by the government big pharma symbiosis that was much more of a business plan to access fiat billions than it was a cure to save anyone from anything. And .. as is revealed below, over reactions even come in the name of those who say they are against the wars they obviously generate.

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Nice little stealth edit, Gary. Peter is lucky to have such a sensitive guy to protect him from his paying subscribers.

I've re-read your last sentence three times, and I still can't figure out what point you're trying to make. Your comment as a whole is incredibly sanctimonious and petty at the same time. No self-reflection, no apology; just a bunch of self-serving horseshit. People like you are why we are in so much trouble - you've found your hero to worship, so you no longer have to think for yourself, and you react with kneejerk hostility to anyone who does. This is the same mindset that enabled them to carry out the whole Covid-19 scam in the first place; it is the same mindset that lets them recruit people to fight all their wars.

This is why your initial reply to Sandy was so irritating. You did not stop to think about what she was asking - she became an enemy simply for having the temerity to question your hero. Such stupidity needs to be treated with scorn, ridicule, and contempt. You may think my response was an "overreaction," but in my view, it is precisely how fools should be addressed.

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If scientist Dr. Mike Yeadon and data analyst Joel Smalley and others say there was no “pandemic”. No sarscov2. What is ivermectin and hcq effective against? Flu?

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If word gets out to the public that CQ may be effective against bird flu, someone will drink aquarium cleaner containing CQ, be poisoned and die and you’ll hear the corrupt media accusing Trump of telling people to drink aquarium cleaner like they did for COVID.

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Actually, I think Trump fumbled the reference he might have been trying to make to chlorine dioxide. Maybe that was it. Maybe not.

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No. He was actually talking about hydroxychloroquine. Unfortunately, some wife gave her husband aquarium tank cleaner that has CQ in it and poisoned him. Trump was blamed for that. But later it was found out that the wife was actually trying to murder her husband and she was charged with his murder.

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See prior sub-stack for rationale for dilute iodine nasal spray/gargle, Tami flu, and hydroxychloroquine. Second case of US bird flu has conjunctivitis only. Dilute iodine dilutions can be made at home very inexpensively. Should allay your financial concerns for now.

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Dr. McCullough -- I can't find any credible support for Tamiflu in your prior substacks. Tamiflu should not be in your contagion kit. It doesn’t work. It will harm people. See my comment below, which includes references to recent reports in JAMA, the Indian Journal of Pharmacology, a video explainer by Dr. Makis, and even a Cochrane Review. As with so many other dangerous drugs, the Tamiflu drug trials were corrupt — benefits (if any) were exaggerated while dangers were hidden. Unsurprisingly, it’s all about money. From Courageous Discourse only a few weeks ago (April 15): "During the bird flu scare of 2005, President Bush asked Congress to allocate $7 billion in emergency funding to prepare for the possibility of the bird flu mutating into a human epidemic. He specifically asked for $1 billion to be allocated for the purchase of Tamiflu, jointly developed by Gilead Sciences and Roche. It just so happened that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was a major shareholder who made millions from the trade.” https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/bedfellows-pharma-and-us-gov-agencies

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Greg, there have been only 800-900 sporadic cases of human bird flu over the decades. Therefore there are no conclusive RCT's of any therapeutic. Be careful about falling into the same trap as detractors did during SARS-CoV-2 a priori declaring with confidence that a therapeutic "does not work." As senior doctors in the setting of a novel threat we rely on clinical judgement and experience with signals of benefit and acceptable safety. Tamiflu has very modest efficacy when started on days 5 and later as done with other strains of influenza summarized in the Cochrane Review. However my experience is the drug is far more effective if started on day 1. So out of an abundance of caution we put generic Tamiflu in the Contagion Kit. Fortunately HCQ likely will likely have antiviral activity as well. The larger threat than the virus with influenza is secondary bacterial pneumonia. We have that covered too!

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Peter - First, thank you for the good work you've done telling the truth about the toxic Covid-19 injections, promoting early treatments, and opposing the corrupt government narrative on those issues. That was a true public service, which you undertook at great personal cost. Many of us will be forever grateful for that.

That said, it is bizarre to see you now pushing Tamiflu to treat what you acknowledge to be only "800-900 sporadic cases of human bird flu over the decades," for which you acknowledge "there are no conclusive RCT's of any therapeutic." The original commenter raised valid points, pointing to multiple studies showing limited efficacy and Tamiflu's association with multiple serious adverse events.

Will you not provide a response to those specific points and studies, and if not, why not? Why do you criticize the original commenter for "declaring with confidence that [this] therapeutic 'does not work'"? Shouldn't the burden be on you - the one pushing this particular therapeutic - to show that it does work? And surely Tamiflu, with its well-documented serious adverse events, is not analogous at all to hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which have comparatively much better safety profiles, that those "detractors" in government and the government-controlled media said "during SARS-CoV-2 a priori" did not work? You know as well as all of us that those detractors did not "fall into a trap" - they demonized effective off-patent therapeutics and pushed toxic pharma products for money.

Can you explain why "800-900 sporadic cases of human bird flu over the decades" constitutes a serious threat? And by the way, how do you know that those 800-900 reported cases of human bird flu really were bird flu? And how do you that Tamiflu would help treat it if it was?

Over the last few years, many of us realized that "Big Pharma" is a for-profit industry that cares only about shareholder profits, not human health. We realized that "the Science" we are all enjoined to "trust" is bought and paid for. Monied interests, not legitimate concerns for human health, drive public policy and so-called "public health." Thanks in part to people like you, we realized that the pushers of pharmaceutical products often have financial conflicts of interest, and as a result, should not "a priori" be trusted. I truly believe you have done heroic work in the past, which should never be forgotten. But given your association with the Wellness Company, which pushes Tamiflu and other drugs, it unfortunately appears that you may have a conflict of interest. Please, for the sake of your reputation, and your integrity, provide a more fulsome response than the dismissive, perfunctory comment above.

Thank you.

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Just this morning, the World Council for Health offered practical, safe and effective advice that doesn’t rely on toxic pharmaceuticals like Tamiflu while also pointing out that so-called bird flu is not a significant concern:

"Here are a few simple approaches to keep you and your family healthy:

Use a disinfecting nasal spray, such as nitrous oxide, hydrogen peroxide, or iodine.

Avoid sugar.

Take several grams of vitamin C daily.

Boost vitamin D levels to 50-80 ng/ml.

Take zinc with a zinc ionophore like quercetin.

Use ivermectin and artemisia to reduce flu-like symptoms.

Instead of being caught unaware, let us learn from the Covid-19 experience. Stock up on these remedies, improve your overall health through diet, exercise, and mindfulness, and don’t get caught up in the fear-mongering from public health organizations and the media.” https://open.substack.com/pub/worldcouncilforhealth/p/statement-bird-flu

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I was shocked to her that Brad Wenstrup was leaving Congress to "spend more time with his family," especially when he has done a yeoman's work chairing the House Covid committee. Do you think the Bio-pharmaceutical complex is blackmailing him and forcing him out?

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This is very troubling news to me!

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Shameless fear-mongering to sell products which may be effective in treating Avian flu but not fully tested or evaluated; more time should be spent on cause and prevention and saving birds and cattle but I guess the animals just don't buy "wellness kits" so they will remain expendable.

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Is the wellness company ever going to ship to Canada?? 🙏🏼🤞🏼

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Any time someone seems to be promoting sales of “kits” and other items I am discouraged and turned off by apparent greed and oppertunistic organizations.

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Except in Dr. McCullough’s case, he is paying off debt from lawyers due to all the legal battles with the previous hospital he was at and various organizations trying to strip him of his Board Certification. Lawyers who defend doctors are more expensive than for the public. I recently had a consult done by a lawyer just to ask a question regarding a confusing DEA rule. It was less than an hour and included a written response. $780.00. Now, if that lawyer were going into a trial with me, the trial fee would be almost double. I looked at the kit and personally would not buy it because you can get Xylitol on the internet or make your own Betadine spray. The antibiotics are only necessary if you really get sick. But I do recommend The Wellness Company as it also has telemedicine services. I also recommend Dr. Pierre Kory from the FLCCC alliance as he and his NP take care of Covid injured patients.

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Peter - First, thank you for the good work you've done telling the truth about the toxic Covid-19 injections, promoting early treatments, and opposing the corrupt government narrative on those issues. That was a true public service, which you undertook at great personal cost. Many of us will be forever grateful for that.

That said, it is bizarre to see you now pushing Tamiflu to treat what you acknowledge to be only "800-900 sporadic cases of human bird flu over the decades," for which you acknowledge "there are no conclusive RCT's of any therapeutic." One commenter below, who you responded to in cursory fashion, Greg Pilcher, raised valid points, pointing to multiple studies showing limited efficacy and Tamiflu's association with multiple serious adverse events.

Will you not provide a response to those specific points and studies, and if not, why not? Why do you criticize that commenter for "declaring with confidence that [this] therapeutic 'does not work'"? Shouldn't the burden be on you - the one pushing this particular therapeutic - to show that it does work? And surely Tamiflu, with its well-documented serious adverse events, is not analogous at all to hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which have comparatively much better safety profiles, that those "detractors" in government and the government-controlled media said "during SARS-CoV-2 a priori" did not work? You know as well as all of us that those detractors did not "fall into a trap" - they demonized effective off-patent therapeutics and pushed toxic pharma products on purpose for money.

Can you explain why "800-900 sporadic cases of human bird flu over the decades" constitutes a serious threat? And by the way, how do you know that those 800-900 reported cases of human bird flu really were bird flu? And how do you know that Tamiflu would help treat it if it was?

Over the last few years, many of us have realized that "Big Pharma" is a for-profit industry that cares only about shareholder profits, not human health. We realized that "the Science" we are all enjoined to trust is bought and paid for. Monied interests, not legitimate concerns for human health, drive public policy and so-called "public health." Thanks in part to people like you, we realized that the pushers of pharmaceutical products often have financial conflicts of interest, and as a result, should not a priori be trusted. I truly believe you have done heroic work in the past, which should never be forgotten. But given your association with the Wellness Company, which pushes Tamiflu and other drugs, it unfortunately appears that you may have a conflict of interest. Please, for the sake of your reputation, and your integrity, provide a more fulsome response than the dismissive, perfunctory comment you issued in response to Greg Pilcher below.

Thank you.

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Chloroquine has more side effects than hydroxychloroquine. Hopefully, they will test this soon.

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Doctor M - interesting you note that chloroquinines may be toxic for livestock. However ivermectin is safe and well tolerated in most animals - are there plausible mechanisms of action by which ivermectin might be expected to be helpful against flu/avian flu in addition to coronaviruses?

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Dr. McCullough is providing a public service with the Wellness kit. If you tried to obtain these elsewhere, first you'd have to find an open-minded doctor, and then all the items would cost way more. Thank you for your courage to speak the truth. I'm sure it has cost you dearly, and not just financially.

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interesting how Pro Patria Mori likes policing the stacks here and the lovelies. What's especially interesting about it is the use of foul language to prevent wars..

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If only nobody used foul language, there’d be no wars. Priceless wisdom from braindead dipshit Gary.

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Well, from the outside looking in, it seems Gary assumed the role of policeman-in-chief when he falsely accused the lovely Sandy of going off topic and further falsely suggested she was attacking Dr McCullough when all she was doing was thinking critically and asking good and sincere questions. I was going to respond to Gary's unjustified attack not simply because the attack was unfair but because the attack was wrongheaded and if left unaddressed it would discourage others from thinking for themselves and asking good questions, but Pro Patria Mori was faster on the draw. Of course, Pro is right about the importance of thinking critically and asking good questions - which is precisely what Sandy did. If more people had questioned "authority" during the faked pandemic, we might have stopped the criminal cabal in its tracks and avoided much of the damage it caused. We're all paying subscribers here because we respect Dr McCullough and his work. That doesn't mean we're checking common sense at the door or yielding our critical thinking skills. And Dr McCullough certainly doesn't need a self-appointed policeman running interference for him when a supporter asks a good question.

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as was indicated by my reply to "the lovely" Sandy I certainly was not policing or attacking. If there was any attack it was the foul language pointed in my direction that was totally out of line.

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