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The "drugs" were found in trace amounts and he was being prescribed low dose ketamine to treat depression. The buprenorphine is an addiction treatment and therefore also did not kill him. The cardiac arrest however caused by taking the so called "vaccine" however did kill him. The MSM have bent the truth so far it's now 100% bull...

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Great comment. I'm reminded of the response to Foo Fighters' drummer Taylor Hawkins' unexpected death back in March 2022. Hawkins' death was attributed to everything including a distant use of drugs in his younger days, everything but the most obvious cause. Mr. Leake should walk this one back.

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Depression? You may not have it after taking large doses of D3. I like Doctor's Best 5000 i.u. gels. (No toxic level in D3.) This also greatly helps the immune system and may be a natural preventative for all Coronavirus' like COVIDS! 😁

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This isn't correct. Perry had a dose of Ketamine in his body that far exceeded any therapeutic dose for treatment of depression. He was abusing it outside of treatment. He had over 3200 ng/ml in his blood. To put that in perspective, an anesthetic dose (for surgery) is between 1000 and 6000 nanograms per ml. An anesthetic state is typical at 2200 ng/ml. He likely passed out in the hot tub due to the large dose of Ketamine and drowned. Cardiac problems were also a contributor and the vaccine may have had a role in that but it is pure speculation. The dose of Ketamine is not speculation.

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If you believe a government authorised report then you are in big trouble. Remember safe and 95% effective?

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Early on according to that road scholar Brandon, it was 100 percent effective.

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As a depopulation agent, maybe...

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Exactly

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Once I figured out the road is Rhodes, I cracked up. Made my night.

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He fell on the road in that bike riding incident.

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Double entendre. You crack me up night, and now morning. LOL.

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You think they lied about the amount of ketamine in his blood found in the autopsy?

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Due to the government lie ratio of 99.995% I am almost certain!

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OTOH, he likely had extraordinary high tolerance, built up over a lifetime of addictive use. But Robert Smith PHD could be correct, too. Who knows. My bet: the fake vaxx had a bigger role than the drugs, but it's only an 80-20 bet.

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Having a high tolerance often doesn't stop the drug from causing someone to pass out and drown. Ask Whitney Houston.

As for the vax, one of the evil genius parts of the shots is that they affect plenty of biological pathways in ways that may make someone more susceptible to a host of ailments but they don't usually act so acutely that the cause/effect is obvious. Put another way, most people don't immediately drop dead after the injection but their immune system or cardiovascular system may be subtly compromised in ways that make it more likely that they will get cancer or a heart attack at some point in the future. Proving the shots caused it is virtually impossible.

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Yes, I am aware that even an addict, with enough of the drug(s) in their system, can pass out and drown. Was water found in Perry's lungs? And if so, would that indicate one or the other or still indeterminate?

Proof of the dangers of the vaxx may be elusive, but one way to prove it is large numbers. So, when disability rates in the U.S. increase by 10% in a year or two, life expectancy has dropped three years, and death rates among those 18-64 have increased by 20-40%, and the sigma of these events happening is about a 10, I accept that as proof that, since there was nothing else dramatically changed during that year or two (no wars, no diseases that had a death rate of over .04% among those age groups), it had to be the fake vaxx.

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You can read the autopsy report yourself. It is public. He drowned. They ruled ketamine as the primary cause of death because he had a sufficient level of ketamine to have caused him to be unconscious and that led to him drowning. Of course, some people think that the autopsy is all fake. So do with it what you will.

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I'd never have dreamed an autopsy might be faked until the last few years. Now? I wouldn't put it past the powers-that-be. Anything is possible.

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That is correct. Ketamine was initially used as an anesthetic, decades ago. One of the reasons it was dis continued for that use in humans fairly quickly was the extreme excitation coming out of its effects and for some hours following.

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I believe you may have missed the sublety of John's post . He was merely quoting the autopsy report and commenting on the foibles of drug addiction. John knows too well that the clot shot is implicated.

Update: it is not necessarily an either/or scenario; the clot shot may have just finished the job of killing him.

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There was nothing subtle about his approach. He had a condescending, ignorant attitude which only reflects his lack of knowledge about substance use addiction. He did not ”merely quote the autopsy report” he made insulting comments. Go back and read it again

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What was insulting? There are some things he got wrong--addicts do far more damage to others than to themselves, because they take down multiple others and there is only one of them--but I see nothing insulting. He's simply being realistic.

Addicts comprise 90% of felons, commit nearly 100% of domestic violence and animal abuse, and are responsible for at least half of all marital and therefore family breakups. Shall I go on?

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Please go on making up statistics. Condemnation is a kind of high too. A really crappy one.

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I did the research in writing my books. The stats are accurate.

Oh, but no double-blind studies because, as with vaccines, few want to know the truth with certainty. But as with vaccines, the plural of anecdotes is data, and lots of data are much better than all-too-many peer-reviewed studies, which are largely bought and paid for.

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Nothing "unfortunate" there at all! He made bad choices in his life, and then blamed his problems on the drugs he chose to abuse! Anyone can become addicted through poor choices or accident or injury requiring addictive medications. NO ONE has to continue being an active addict; we all have free will to choose what we will do. He chose to keep using.

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Because he was enabled by fans, friends and money. Of course he chose to keep using, until he chose to stop (and I suspect, but cannot yet prove, he chose to stop--but I could be wrong).

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Precisely. And society in general has opted to coddle and enable as well. That's not love, it's hate, in fact.

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Ridding the USA of drugs will require a simultaneous Civil War against the CIA, human degens, and Mexico. Time to show no sorrow, no mercy, and to cleanse with fire.

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Will Tyndale…haven’t you omitted the pharmaceutical industry?

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First we HAVE to stop the insanity of treating them as if they are "disabled"; they are not. Then we have to teach from the cradle up, better coping skills, and repugnance for those who choose to hide from their challenges, rather than face and deal with them. Just taking out the current suppliers won't resolve the demand issue.

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Not quite. We need to stop enabling, both as "friends" and institutionally (SSDI, for example). Only when the enabling stops and uncompromising tough love is offered will the addict "try sobriety."

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That was to what I was referring, along with "mandatory" housing, especially, when I said stop treating a them as if disabled. Those provisions are for the honestly disabled. Not people who have made, and keep on making, bad life choices, in large part because they are thus enabled.

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You will never rid the USA of drugs. Alcohol being the first and primary which, if all drugs were legal, would clearly cause the most damage.

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The primary cause of drug abuse is our fragmented and isolated society, by design. Strong families and strong local communities eliminate most of the self-destructive behavior. Look up the “rat utopia” built by sociologists. The rats had the ideal environment. When heroine was introduced “on tap”, the rats would test it out once, freak out, and never touch heroine in their utopia.

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Explain how Danish twin brothers, separated at birth, one raised by the biological alcoholic father (with mother), the other raised by non-alcoholic adoptee parents, had identical rates of alcoholism when grown: five times that of the overall population.

It's genetic. And it skips around: child may not get it, but a grandchild might.

Explain, too, the fact that only 5-10% of Mediterranean populations have alcoholism; 20-30% of Northern Europeans including northern Russia, Scandinavia and most of the British Isles; 75% of Native Americans have it. Is it because they are bad people? No. It's ancestral, and correlated to the period of time those who came before them had access to enough fermented fruits and grains to build up enough alcoholism to result in a resistance to it.

A strong family may keep it in check, especially those that offer uncompromising tough love. But it cannot prevent it, unless the person predisposed to alcoholism simply never takes their first drink.

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If we look at the "rat utopia" experiment where rats who had ideal lives were given the opportunity to get addicted to drugs, 5-10% of them DID choose the drug addiction. But when rats are kept in cages and deprived of social stimulation and enrichment, the rates at which they become addicted are near 100%. If we apply this to humans, there are clearly some portion of the human population that will become addicted to drugs no matter how wonderful their lives are. The numbers appear to be somewhat similar to the rat utopia - around 5-10%. Those people probably have a genetic component that predisposes them to addiction/alcoholism just as the addicted rats in "rat utopia" likely had such a genetic condition. It explains why a set of twins might end up with drug problems no matter how they are raised. They probably had the genetic predisposition. The large majority of people, however, do NOT have such a genetic predisposition. And I'd argue that genetics are not destiny anyway. Having a genetic predisposition to addiction might make it harder to avoid but it isn't impossible.

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His drug addiction stopped him from thinking sensibly! And fell for the cool aid! He boasted the jab!

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Plenty of non-addicts chose the jab and even boasted about it. The propaganda and Maslow's need to belong (third in his hierarchy) were simply too powerful for most people to overcome. Most of us here are NTs, independent thinkers and skeptics. We comprise only 12% or so of the population. Perry was not one of us.

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Sounds like you believe in beatings, too. No one learns from harshness. I worked with drug addicts there in Dallas. A thankless job but I would never change the time I gave to that endeavor. They were young. Abused. Lost. And once hooked, next to impossible to rescue. None of the fool drugs we use to “help” them work. The ones who climb out are rare and give some hope.....maybe to others. Mostly it’s false hope. Once hooked, you will struggle for life to get unhooked and stay that way. We need to go back to better, more engaged parenting without abuse. We need to get the programming out of our schools that leave kids lost and vulnerable to the predators that suck them in. We need honest leaders at all levels of government as well as in the churches, media, schools and corporations. Those places where kids are getting programmed. It’s not a simplistic “it’s not cool to do this” sort of thing. It’s adults and programed youth by adults who know how to manipulate vulnerable young people. The drug lords and our sick, corrupted government - including the medical community - who deserve our contempt. Not the kids - including the rock stars who are also kids - who just don’t know who to believe in anymore. Go into downtown Dallas or south Dallas for a few nights and sit with those street kids. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Just be quiet and sit and listen and watch. You’ll need to carry for protection and don’t look too affluent and don’t sound like you “want to help” since that will make you a target and they can see through that last bit and know how to manipulate your emotions to get a few bucks off of you. But you need to know the people you are babbling about before deciding “what needs to be done.” You need to KNOW.

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You nailed it!!! Hopefully God will speak to his heart and he'll listen. I'm not an a user and have been friends with some who're recovered 20+ years and married to a 17 yr survivor of drugs . It IS possible. Thank you and God bless you for the work you have done to help.

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Bless you and your friends and spouse yes it can be done but it’s damned hard work and more lost than saved. My heart is still scarred from that time. ❤️

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You know what sir, that's a fat load of bushwah! The problem is not that addictions are that hard to break, it's that they do NOT WANT to quit and get clean. When, if they choose to do so, because they truly want to quit, whether it's alcohol, drugs, tobacco/ nicotine, gambling, sex,or whatever the addiction is, they can and will do so. But folks like you and sou mentally deranged "leaders" coddle them, so the payoff to staying addicts is greater than that of getting sober! I know because I have quit addictions to (prescribed) narcotics and tobacco both, without drugs or any of the other "helps" you're providing. No patches or gum, etc. The really hard 1 is food, and I am working on that 1 too. It's the only 1 you can't reach a stop point. But it is still a free will choice to reduce intake and break its control.

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Go carnivore and then regular keto and your food addiction will take care of itself.

You are correct, they must want to quit. But the only way to get them to want to quit is to offer the only kind of love they understand: uncompromising tough love. Every single recovering addict I interviewed in researching my books admitted--eventually, sometimes a year after I asked--they were inspired to "try sobriety" because of a credible or actual loss of something they truly cared about (family, children, job, freedom). And they stayed sober not just because they worked the program, but because others warned them that if they drank or used again the same fate would befall them.

You are partly correct in naming all the "addictions." Half of compulsive gambler, sexually compulsive, compulsive spenders are psychoactive drug addicts; most of the other half are children of addicts, coping in their own particular way. For the addicts, stop the active addiction and, while some flip over into the other compulsions, most after a period will stop the compulsions. For the non-addicts, they need to understand their parent(s) did what they did because of their addiction. Their emotional or intellectual abandonment was a result of the addiction, not the real parent, who almost assuredly would have loved their child if they did not have a greater love of the substance.

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I can't do that; I live in a semi assisted living place where meals are provided, and there aren't real cooking facilities in our apartments. Even If I had the appliances I can't do the cooking any more, it's why I live here to start. I wish I could.

I know; naming all addictions would take a few pages really. I addition to what I know from personal experience, I'm an old retired RN. Several of us are encouraging a fellow resident to quit smoking, and explained to her she HAS to thoroughly want to do so, for herself, or it won't work! She knows we've been there and done that, most of us decades ago.

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This is a fine comment. You've covered it all and your words carry such truth because you speak from your experience of the time you've spent with addicts and what you've learned from them. Olenka Folda

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Each of them still live on in my heart. Thank you.

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Your condemnation of the dead or dying victims is more than questionable. Go after the billion dollar corporations pumping this poison out

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Yes. Purdue Pharma is the worst offender, and the owners of Purdue Pharma (the Sackler family) have not gone to prison. They probably never will, because the judiciary and other Powers That Be are so corrupt these days. The Sacklers have been charged with a $6 billion fine, but so what, since their net worth before being fined was something like $12 billion.

Mr. Leak, your wonderful work with Dr. McCullough has helped expose the crimes committed by Pfizer and the FDA in connection with the Covid "vaccines." Are you aware that essentially the same kinds of crimes happened with Purdue Pharma and the FDA? Purdue Pharma bribed the FDA for its approval of OxyContin. The FDA official they were dealing with, Curtis Wright, went to work for Purdue not long after OxyContin was approved. His annual salary at Purdue was something like $400,000 - much more than the compensation he'd gotten at the FDA. Yep, it was the revolving door - just like with Scott Gottlieb and the FDA and Pfizer.

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they have my family member on at least 10 prescription meds ( this is in UK) Can you imagine? I don't think the docs even talk to each other or read notes/ realise what he's already taking. As well as alcohol and benzos by post.

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Your family member is a full-on addict and your greatest enemy is the institutionalized enabling. That includes the dole, if the person is on it.

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yep. more money than my dad's pension. so you're spot on.

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Wasn't there a documentary on what you just presented, some years agowhere a number of the 'reps' involved finally talked about the inner workings of this unholy alliance? Don't remember who did it. It was shocking. I was prescribed oxycontin when it first appeared on the scene as the latest, greatest blah blah...I have severe chronic intractable pain and this was just another pain killer that didn't play well with me. Thank goodness for small favors.

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Crime of the Century on HBO was a 2-part series that showed political involvement by congress reps changing legislation in favour of Purdue during the multiple court cases. There was also pharma sales reps talking about how they got caught up in it all.

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Well, there are two docudrama-type series. One is called "Dopesick," and the other is called "Painkiller." Each is based on a book by the same name.

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Thanks. I seem to remember that 2 reporters, maybe from the NYT, (which is why I was surprised based on the usual garbage that paper is so well known for) did some deep digging to expose the oxy scandal and got enough evidence to blow it wide open. May be part of what you refer to.

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Beth Macy, a reporter at the Roanoke (VA) Times and World-News, wrote the book "Dopesick: Dealers, Doctors, and the Drug Company That Addicted America".

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It did not play well with you because you are not an addict. If you do not have the genetic predisposition to addiction, you cannot be one. If you think you can, just try drinking or using some other psychoactive drug addictively. You won't be able to.

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Funny you should bring that up. In 1998 (I was 45 years old) waiting for insurance to approve a pain pump implant after all else had failed, my doc was away in South Africa and I was a mess with the latest 'let's see how you do with these drugs' trial. Went to a GP (I had no primary physician at that time, just various specialists) who told me he would put me in the hospital to get off the meds, then i could go back 'fresh' to my pain doctor when he returned, making it sound reasonable and safe. At that point I was not thinking on all cylinders. He started the process for my hospitalization. The sharks circled and they couldn't wait to get their hands on me, including Teamsters' drug assist program folks who screamed at me for 15 minutes and, yes, called me an addict. In I went, told that Naltrexone would help and that I would sleep through the withdrawal. That didn't happen. I went through 14 days of hell on Earth. They locked me in my room, I was told, because I was screaming and bothering other patients. Ended up in critical care that night when the nurse finally checked up on me, finding me unresponsive. I was on methadone among others that I don't even remember, but methadone has a long half life. Then, I was supposed to confess in group that I was an addict. I refused

I was, and am still a chronic pain patient. Another doctor came through, looked at my file and history and agreed, then released me. I finally got my first pump in April of '99. I quit smoking cold turkey in '93 after a 4 pk a day habit. Never looked back. There are definitely people who are predisposed to addiction. I met some of those good people while in hospital. But, one size does not fit all. I can attest to that.

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There are plenty of chronic pain patients who are not addicts from the point of view of my re-definition of addiction. See, you were physically addicted--which is very different from psychological addiction. You can be both; you may not have been.

I put the difference as a question: does the person engage in misbehaviors that can be linked to the use of a psychoactive drug? If yes, I call that "addiction," or "substance addiction," or "psychoactive drug addiction," which I use interchangeably with "alcoholism." If no, I do not call it addiction--because for words to be most useful they must be as specific as possible. That is why I never use the term "addiction" when referring to the non-substance "compulsions." They are often linked to "addiction" in that they are one of those "misbehaviors."

The fact you quit smoking cold turkey while still apparently using strongly suggests you are not what I call an "addict." In my research days I asked many recovering addicts when they quit smoking. It was ALWAYS after they got sober. With one exception: a woman learned she was pregnant and quit smoking. I asked, so you still drank. Of course! But, she told me, as soon as the little one's head popped out, she raised her hand and spread her fingers.

Interesting factoid: I strongly suspect cigarettes protect against liver damage in alcoholics, which would explain why so many alcoholics smoke. In fact, smoking is a great indicator of psychoactive drug addiction, because most non-addicts have quit smoking. Practicing addicts simply cannot stop smoking.

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The money machine is so big! There is no law they will up hold to make any of these big Corp accountable, they own their own law!

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No autopsy on my loved one that died after the flu shot and covid shot on the same day. Just the government, the medical establishment and NFL commericals pushing the injections as safe and effective to this day.

The victims are not here to defend themselves. Reminds me of Taylor Hawkins death. Someone can be sober many years, and if the media wants to blame the victim and deflect from the covid injections anything is fair game.

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Well they used to have routine autopsies when "cause of death" was in question...now they just "bury the evidence" and move on....highly criminal and suspect in my opinion.

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No cause of death reported. Natural causes even when the person is a child. Insanity.

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Everyone apparently 'had' unsuspecting heart issues or something that effected the heart.

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it is simply nice to dialogue truthfully, not victim or addict shaming/blaming....we're all limping with various traumas and frankly, the ppl gullible enough who fell for the covid jabbs/lies are traumatized souls probably not any better at intimate relationships than I am. It is refreshing to speak the truth and learn what ppl are really thinking...not the nazi-virtue-signalling and cover up-the-lies BS.

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Bit harsh. Addiction is a real phenomenon and Perry was primed for it by being regularly given benzos (!) as a baby.

Shaming is unlikely to help, as an addict just won’t care enough. The key is to help the addict understand what has happened to them. If they’re capable of honest introspection they have a fighting chance of getting clean.

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My nephew given Oxytocin as a teenager after a serious soccer injury to his leg. That started his struggle with drugs.

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And yet I know many who had serious injuries and could not wait to get off the drug. Because they were not genetically predisposed to addiction.

One was taking 80 mg of oxy daily (it might have been 300 mg; I don't recall, but it was a ton more than I can take--10 mg makes me nauseous and 5 mg daily for a week was too much for me; I took the pain from a cracked rib instead). Never acted badly; it screwed with his memory in bad ways. He finally got off after a back surgery finally worked.

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Last summer I experimented with gummies on numerous occasions over a month or two. Though in my state it is a slightly different form but sold legally. I had met numerous ppl who told me they used it for aches and pains and good sleep. I tried. It had a bad effect on me. I didn’t like the way it made me feel. The memory and confusion issues were not liked. It wasn’t worth it to me. Yet, I know others who like the effects. I guess I am like a person who can’t have more than one or two drinks without being effected badly when it comes to that stuff. I didn’t like it as a teenager too but experimented like other kids until I realized it wasn’t for me. I like Wine and beer. Never cared for much liquor. Too strong for me. I guess I don’t have the addiction gene but one in my family seemed to have that.

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The gene or genes skip around. One family with six kids has one addict; another, four. That one has Northern European ancestry; the former, more Italian.

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Yes, a key is to help the addict understand what has happened to them--they got some genes that made them so. The real key is uncompromising tough love. Only then does the addict have a shot at getting clean and sober.

The problem here is money, friends and all-too-often family. They are the biggest enablers, and he had a lot of money (and likely "friends," who in my view may not have been true friends).

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he and geo floyd could probably relate...death with a list of unnatural chemicals colluding inside of them. both were 'fatherless' too I'd guess, it really fk's up young boys and girls not to have hands-on loving and intimate parenting. Unresolved childhood trauma is the driver of every evil in society...check out gabor mate on youtube, been helping me see mental illness and addiction from new perspective. Of most note: the opposite of addiction is CONNECTION. If ppl never learned to connect in a safe relationship they fall prey to addictions. No one is exempt...we all have traumas of varying levels.... the key is learning to grieve the 'losses' in life in a healthy way. If we never learn to grieve in a constructive process..we never get close to God. It's learning to be truthful, ppl who are truthful do not fall for lies and the deceit of the narcissist agenda's.

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You beat me to the punch on Gabor Maté, KB. He's a treasure. Unresolved childhood trauma IS at the root of much of society's sorrows.

And for Mr. John Leake -- contempt kills the soul. Only love heals (ourselves and others who are a part of us).

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much love Sheila....I'm 60 and just began realizing this 5 yrs ago--the importance of learning about grieving (never ever knew how...ain't that hard or scary...just talk it out with safe ppl and read the Bible!) I refused to give up learning and seeking truth no matter how painful or scary...God is closer and kinder than we believe.

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Much love to you, KB.

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Childhood Trauma: One Cruel Aspect:

"History shows that the impetus for circumcision began

in the US when a few hypocritical doctors of the Victorian

era decided to punish boys for masturbating to block

pleasure. Circumcision not only disables the penis but

initiates anxiety and hate...."

Heretic's Notebook. ed James DeMeo (2011. p271)...

This comment might explain the the Violence some

countries are particularly prone to...

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Speaking of George Floyd, I highly recommend this terrific online documentary:

The Fall of Minneapolis

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com

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it was excellent and sad

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Childhood trauma is nearly always rooted in an addict parent or two (or three or four or more when counting grandparents). It runs in some families far more than others. You ever wonder why?

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So thankful I got help with my alcoholism years ago. Watching my only sibling spiraling out of control now. (We had trauma as young children. Creepy grandfather.)

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He’s in court order counseling now, from what I’ve heard second hand.

When I was in rehab, I think I got better treatment because I was voluntary . Most people were court ordered or trying to regain custody of children. 25 out of 30 approximately.

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Well stated John Leake! Drugs are the destruction of society - plain and simple.

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Are 'drugs' themselves the problem or people who keep supplying the drugs? In USSR there were no drugs. As soon as the country fell, borders opened up, the flow of drugs started up and the epidemic unleashed on the youth.

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They had plenty of the drug "alcohol," which killed about 50,000 Soviets yearly. There was no shortage of drugs and deaths from drugs--it's just that it was mostly one drug.

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I suppose alcohol was there, but as youth in USSR times, it wasn't easy to get it and you were raised with morals that kept you on a different path of education and social work. Once the USSR fell, the borders opened, the drugs magically came into the country and found the teenagers. At that point we all observed the youth in the cities do drugs openly in our apartment buildings. A complete 180 of what we had in the USSR. Moreover that drug use led to crime, as eventually these kids needed to look for money to buy more drugs.

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We would greatly reduce crime by decriminalizing all drugs. We could greatly reduce active addiction through the cessation of enabling, both by family and friends and by government (institutionalized enabling). But then the medical industrial and criminal-judicial industrial complex would lose 80% of their "business."

As for teens, they always find a way to get booze. They all figure out, independently, they can sneak drinks from their (often alcoholic) parents' liquor cabinets and refill what they took, to a degree, with water.

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Alcoholism runs wide and deep on my dad's side of the family. As the oldest of 4 siblings, I am the only one of us who has truly gotten, and remained, sober; almost 26 years now, by the grace of God.

I faithfully attended recovery meetings for 18 years-got an "A" in AA, and yet started experiencing the despair so many in the recovery community eventually do. Being led into long-term sobriety enabled me to find true joy and peace, and salvation in Jesus Christ.

I am 100% convinced that alcohol and drug addiction are straight from the pit of Hell. Untold millions have been destroyed through them and there are many more to come. The Bible even prophetically reveals the rampant spread of sorcery and "pharmakia" in the Last Days.

If someone was possessed by a demon, we wouldn't shame them. We would try to help them and release them. People who have never been through addiction and recovery make the worst sources of information about their treatment and cure. It is like someone who has never had children telling you how to parent.

No, we don't coddle or excuse the addiction, but it is a complex problem and one that, at its core, stems from a broken spiritual condition.

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yes yes yes! My mom (whom i loved and adored) was an alcoholic for many years....she couldn't stop drinking because my Dad would come home from work and "need a drink" to unwind. Since that was in the ancient pre women's lib days, she had to make him one and had one herself as well. She became an alcoholic ....but he did not...Why? Maybe because he had the structure and the obligations of working an actual job and earning a living while she was "just" a housewife. When finally he left her--because she was a drunk--she was able to go to AA, find real friends and stop drinking....I am not a practicing Christian but I have to say "Praise God" and "hallelujah" for that little miracle. My dad was pissed because this "recovery" made him look bad.....as well it should....

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I'm glad your mom was able to get sober. It is a huge gift to our loved ones. My granddaughter, who is 15, has never seen me take a drink...thank you LORD! I get to spend a lot of time with her because my daughter, who was 13 when I quit drinking, knows I am trustworthy and safe. Not the usual story for so many who are trapped in alcoholic prison.

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Yes... the quality time you spend with your daughter will be repaid a thousand times....by her ability relate well and function in a crazy world. Yaaaaah for AA and for sobriety. Children are our most precious treasure and they represent the future of our planet!

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The fact of AA is a miracle in itself. How Dr. Bob and Bill W. figured out nearly 100 years ago they needed steps designed to deflate the massive alcoholic ego is beyond my comprehension.

Abstinence gets us only a dry drunk. Not as bad, usually, as the practicing one, but often pretty bad. Ego deflation brings out the wonderful human being that lays under the muck of nearly every addict.

And that is the miracle of AA.

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ugghh....the arrogance we wrestle. Jesus showed us humility is the only way to the Father (our right minds).

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And that is why finding God and Jesus's ideas keep addicts clean and sober.

Arrogance is the opposite of humility. And those with inflated egos cannot be humble. Hence, the inflated ego must be slowly crushed.

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Maybe, Kathleen, because dad did not inherit addiction, but mom did.

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You know, Doug...I think you are right....No one drinks more than "socially" on my Dad's side....but every generation on Mom's side is a drinker to one degree or another...including my brother...who fought his alcoholism for years until he could retire from his well paying job....then drinking took over his life, his wife left him and now from what I have heard....he does not respond to my attempts to contact him...he is a homeless and living in a shelter in Denver. He got his toes frozen off after he "fell asleep" on a park bench one night. Devastating.

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Your brother could no longer inflate his ego at work, so he lapsed into late-stage alcoholism (the kinds most people identify as "alcoholism"). How many opportunities were there for close people to stem the active addiction with an intervention? Hundreds. Because he committed hundreds of infractions for which close people or the law could have intervened, but didn't.

Your brother is a classic case of the long-term results of alcoholism. What is so unfortunate is few are looking at behavioral indications of EARLY stage addiction, which involved acting badly some of the time, behaviors stemming from his inflated sense of self which, in turn, stemmed from distortions of perception and memory that caused him to think he was a Supreme Being, or at least better than everyone else ("euphoric recall," viewing everything he did through self-favoring lenses).

Your eyes are open. Good for you.

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I agree with everything, but the no forgiveness? If they're willing to stop, then we can forgive, maybe we should forgive, as long as they have stopped. But the bigger message is true here, let's quit making it cool to not be sober.

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not cool to be addicted overweight unhealthy mentally unstable, enraged etc.... the key is, how do we gain 'connection/relationship' that we desperately require to become healthier beings(notice I did not say healthy b/c it's not a destination)? There is something to the 'Jesus loves me' mantra directing me to come to know God....get me into my right mind...away from my limbic/amygdala emotional brain that is the satan tortured hell in my mind. We have 2 minds warring with each other....NO ONE EVER TAUGHT US HOW TO GET TO THE healthier brain....the prefrontal cortex where God, creativity, health and peace exists... we did not learn that we can stay there and do not have to get yanked back into the hell of the limbic (unresolved childhood traumas...narcissistic...disconnected hell).

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It appears, though, he did not stop: https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/2023-14789_Redacted.pdf May he rest in peace.

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Responsibility for the preoccupation with drug use in our society lies directly with the medical culture. Our kids are taught, from birth, that there is a pill or potion to relieve any uncomfortable feeling in life. Too down?Take an upper. Too up? Take a downer. Pain? Kill it! Diarrhea? Plug it up. Sniffles? Clog them up. Unhappy? Drink it away. Anxious? ... you should have the idea by now. It is also a sign of our society moving away from God-centeredness. Statistically, less God - more drugs. That is not a coincidence.

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Well that is one side of the story....In my family I taught my kids that drugs could/would kill you and you were so much better off finding something fun and if possible--productive-- on which to spend your time and money. this meant work for the mom and dad....We spent many a boring hour at children's "sports events" and reading them stories. The stories were the fun part, though....We read the real classics like ANN OF GREEN GABLE and TREASURE ISLAND and Robinson Carouso....even BLACK BEAUTY-- had its good points. There's a lot of good children's literature out there thaT can be enjoyed by sophisticated adult readers....at a different level of course. Also the original PETER PAN by J. Berry and of course, Hawthorn's THE TANGLEWOOD TALES....ALICE IN WONDERLAND AND THRU THE LOOKING GLASS by C.S. Lewis I could go on and on...but you get the idea.

Don't blame the media....Instead...BE the media for your child. Spend an hour every night reading to them...It is one way to create a real bond...give them ideas for how to live their lives, and get them to go to sleep w/out drugs or TV....We hid our TV for many years..until they were "old enough to know better" about the stuff on TV. Anyway, that is from bygone era....People are just too "busy" to spend an hour or so every night reading to their youngsters. Too bad....

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This warmed my heart. I am 92, from an era when one read books, especially to children.

The tradition is now a part of my 3 yr old great granddaughters's life along with many of

the books themselves which have been handed down with their beautiful pictures printed

on fine paper. I took my children to the local library so they could choose other books,

amazing books. My own bookcase is the center of my house, the colorful shelves holding

treasures I keep returning to.

One of my favorite quotes, by Abraham Cowley, an English poet (1618-1667, goes:

"Ah yet, ere I descend to the grave,

May I a small house and large garden have;

And a few friends, and many books, both true,

Both wise, and both delightful too!

I must confess I've been blessed with all. Olenka Folda

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Olenka - how wonderful! My siblings and I were partly raised by our paternal grandmother (my father divorced when we were toddlers). I fondly recall her bookcase with all of the Wizard of Oz books, as well as many others. They were so pretty magical and beautiful. I don’t know where they are now, sadly. We spent a lot of time at our grandmother’s and aunt’s homes sitting around reading books.

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I don’t disagree. But I am talking about the failure of the current medical system and its preoccupation with covering up symptoms instead of getting at the root causes of health as well as emotional problems. Medical drugs would not kill if medical doctors did not prescribe them.

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Kathleen Nathan - wonderful comments! However, as you brought up the importance of literature, I couldn’t help cringing at your errors, so, I’m sorry, but: It’s Robinson Crusoe, not Carouso. The author of Peter Pan Is J.M. Barrie, not J. Berry. Nathaniel Hawthorne (not Hawthorn) authored The Tanglewood Tales. Alice Wonderland was written by Lewis Carroll, not C.S. Lewis (he wrote the Narnia books). I also love all this wonderful classic literature, including other wonderful examples such as The Wind in the Willows, Charlotte’s Web, etc. I completely agree with you that it’s a shame that most children (and adults) no longer read actual books.

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Thanks! Cathleen Manny...my spelling has always been bad and I was too lazy to look up the names. It's been about 30 years since we read those books to our kids...They getting on to middle age. Thanks for helping me and bringing up more great stuff...WIND IN THE WILLOWS!!!!! wow totally great! loved that book. And so did my children...remember when Mr. Toad got a car and got in a wreck almost immediately ...poop poop...or something like that. There was Ratty and the Stouts... Loved the Narnia books as well...THE LION THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE...fantastic...We read all those books to our children...and it really is too bad--my grandkids are not getting in on this .... I am beginning to wonder if book reading will be become obsolete...

Did you read Elenor Cameron's the Wonderful Flight to the Mushroom Planet?

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Kathleen Nathan - no, I’ve never heard of the Wonderful Flight to the Mushroom Planet…thanks for the suggestion! Yes, Mr. Toad’s wild ride, haha! And, The Borrowers, by Mary Norton. When I was young, I lived in Southern California, and there was a ride for young kids at Disneyland called Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride, it was so fun. And did you ever read the Beatrix Potter books, such as Peter Rabbit, Squirrel Nutkin, etc.? Such beautiful illustrations, too. And all the books by Marguerite Henry, such as Misty of Chincoteague and the like. And I almost forgot the Winnie the Pooh books by A.A. Milne. I could go on and on, sorry! I consider reading a vital aspect of life, as it teaches us words, grammar, and all kinds of life lessons.

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my kids loved the Beatrix Potter books. Mr. McGregars garden was scary! and Squirrel Nutkin was actually captured fora bit...who was it that got him out of the slammer? I think it was a bird who came and "urged him to exert himself"...heh heh..great stuff. Thanks for the memories. Did not read Misty...maybe take look at if for my grandkids....Eleanor Cameron grew up in Berkeley Cal. I believe-- and she writes about her childhood there in a memoir...I highly recommend THE WONDERFUL FLIGHT TO THE MUSHROOM PLANET....it is the first in a series.

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This is absolutely a huge problem, and the pharmaceutical companies are largely responsible for it. People need to learn how to manage their emotions and stresses without drugs.

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And non-addicts do that.

If life's stresses and trials and tribulations caused addiction, we would all be addicts.

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Astounding Nabokov quote. Thanks for that.

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Drugs of all kinds...are the foundation of murder and treachery.

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pharma/vaxxines defined

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No. Drug addiction is that foundation. Drugs are no more such a foundation than guns.

It's the person using the gun. It's the person using the drug.

Addicts act badly some of the time as a result of the addictive use. Non-addicts in the aggregate do not act badly nearly as often, and any bad acts cannot be linked to the use. If it can be so linked, look for an addict.

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yup and you just have to know a little history to figure that out...For example, the Chinese were fighting "opium wars"in the late 19th century....which continued for years and extended into Afghan and Vietnam debacles....both those were really for control of the opium fields ....as the Good MIKE RUPERT so copiously documented. He was murdered for it too, btw.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVc10urP7A8Mike C. Ruppert was working for LAPD when he uncovered evidence of the CIA's drug running. After raising the matter, he was threatened with death, survived three assassination attempts[citation needed] and in 1996 publicly confronted Director of Central Intelligence John Deutch about the matter.[1] Ruppert later became a critical observer of US deep politics, writing books and compiling a web-based newsletter, From The Wilderness. Towards the end of his life he became increasingly concerned about the instability of modern society. In 2009, he was the subject of a film, Collapse. In 2014 he was found dead with a gunshot to the head.

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Are people addicted to caffeine, nicotine and food also drug dunces? What about sex/porn, shopping and video games?

If so, that's 99% of us sitting in the corner in our pointy caps.

All of these addictions are harmful in their own way ... yes, even beloved coffee backed up by industry-funded studies telling us its adrenaline producing, bone and teeth betraying, acidifying harm is good for us.

Most of us are addicted to something. Why? Life is hard. We want a moment of respite. Our brains want the adrenaline hit.

Industries, legal and illegal, prey on this. Market to it. Huge profits are made.

THIS is the crowd that should be belittled and shamed. The parasitic profiteers.

The rest of us deserve a little more empathy and perhaps a little less judgment. Especially when the rest of us is darn near ALL OF us.

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What an insightful post, @Bird's Brain.

I'm a food addict, BTW. :)

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I have a little trouble putting down a family size bag of potato chips myself ;)

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Mr. Leake, I agree young people need to be educated about the horrors that await them if they dabble with drugs. However, I don't think society should adopt a judgmental attitude toward people that are already hooked on drugs. Many of these people got caught up in the Purdue Pharma-engendered opioid fiasco that began in the 1990s, and they are still suffering the consequences.

The State of Maine, where I live, is one of three states Purdue Pharma first set its sights on when it rolled out OxyContin in 1996. A local friend of mine, now 40 years old, got swept up in the opioid craze as a teenager. That's when he started using opioids for recreation. After a time, he understood that these drugs were trouble, and he weaned himself off of them. But a number of years later, he was prescribed OxyContin for pain control after suffering a serious injury. Soon enough, he was hooked again. Since then he has gotten clean several times, but each time he has relapsed.

These days, he buys illicit fentanyl and smokes it several times each day just to stay functional. I repeat, he uses the fentanyl just so he can function. He doesn't get high on it. Many people don't understand that serious opioid addicts don't continue using the drugs because they like being high - instead, they need the drugs so they don't become physically sick and emotionally impaired. This happens because the opioids alter the way a person's brain and body work - and not in a good way. Anyone who doubts this should take a look at Dr. Anna Lembke's work and Dr. Peter Coleman's work.

This man's addiction has destroyed his finances and his family. It has also taken a big toll on his career and his health. He came close to suicide last year. He was even homeless for two years and is just now in the process of getting settled into a very modest cabin made available to him rent-free by a kind neighbor.

This person is extremely intelligent, talented, and hard-working. He is determined to get clean and stay clean. I'll be helping him with this effort, which he plans to initiate after he is settled into his new home.

This guy has an 11-year-old son and a 14-year-old stepdaughter, and he is aggressive about steering them away from drug use. The two kids understand he is an addict. It is obvious to them that the drug life hasn't worked out well for him (understatement), and so far, they are heeding his warnings about the dangers of using drugs for recreation.

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I wonder if he was part of occult in Hollywood.

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