This was a double shot across America's the bow, likely from the deep state who are working both tooth and nail to destroy America because the US Constitution is the only thing standing in the way of the abject slavery one-world-government planetary scale nightmare system they are implementing.
Shot 1) Destroying critical key infrastructure on a large American port.
Shot 2) The symbolism of the bridge named after the man who penned the "Star Spangled Banner", banner falling into the ocean, as they wish for America to do.
The writing is on the wall, America is being gutted both from within and without. Get prepared for the worst or get prepare to starve. But MOST of all, get your spiritual house in order immediately.
Nancy, it's far too late to wait for a politician to save us, we must save ourselves. It's time to opt out of this sick system and build our own with gardening, community building, ending reliance on retailers, doing everything local. It's time to put the "common unity" back in community.
I understand. At 80 yo, I guess I have to do more than work the elections! School Board meetings to start? Most neighbors here in surbubia are unaware of all the is happening. Same during the Plandemic, distancing, jabs, masks! All 5hought me a crazy conspiracy theorist, including my family. Discounted that I researched constantly! Plus I’ve been anti vaccs for many years for many reasons. More so now.
Good for you, Nancy!! You are not a conspiracy theorist! They all have their heads in the sand! Thanks for helping at the Board of Elections!!! That’s very important!
Understood, my family was the same. It's a mad world we live in. If you would like some crowdsourced solutions to going local you can find quite a few here: https://tritorch.com/united#solutions
Thanks for being on the front lines of the truth war.
Susan... "dump supply chains"? huh? how would we in fly-over country get our food and supplies? How would truck drivers exist? I say dump Amazon! They want to put all the other businesses out of business, just like in the lock downs, heck - it was probably Jeff Bezos idea!
Trains are the best way to move cargo long distance. How did you get food and supplies before NAFTA? They were produced locally. Time to do that again.
Absolutely! Stop relying on fragile and massively complex systems (owned by those who seek to enslave you) for your survival, well-being, and piece of mind.
I think that economies in the west may require crashing . No Western governments in the American/ European, and Japanese. We may need guns to protect us from our government.
One fact really stands out for me. The US government has immediately stepped in and said they’ll pay for the rebuilding. Are the involved parties not privately insured?
If the government pays, THEY get to decide who gets paid for doing what.
This could all be a last giant shakedown before the Biden administration is voted out in November. Sweetheart contracts worth billions and millions quickly awarded to family members, friends and other associates of politicians and donors with little scrutiny and much urgency.
Looks to me like the nearby seaport of Wilmington, Delaware has the most to gain from this. Delaware….hmmm, which US politician has close personal ties to Delaware????
Are US politicians crooked enough to do something like this…destroy billions of $$ of our own critical infrastructure for personal gain??? That would be an act of war against our own country.
I agree that the course change was anomalous, I agree with the economic fallout and the sentimental symbolism, I suggest also that the timing of this event following Crocus City Hall is serendipitously coincident: a cybernetic hack supposed to come from Moscow in revenge for the aforementioned. Modifying the latter, a fake flag event causing both real and psychosocial damage: for which, an inspection of various media chats might help confirm/deny.
Inserting a self-powered timed relay into some control circuitry might not be too difficult (except for Russians!).
My gratitude to the authors of this substack for this and all their other hard work and social contributions.
This is a perfect distraction from the atrocity a Crocus city hall. Not to mention that the Russians believe they have evidence of U.S./CIA involvement in that horrendous affair.
The Russians will do things in their own way and in their own time.
They are busy making friends with a lot of nations recently (or earlier) disenchanted with the "Anglo-American Establishment".
For the Russians to go about wrecking things like bridges, pipelines, etcetera, would put all those friendship projects at serious risk.
I used to watch Saturday Morning Cinema, often WWII, films when I were a kid. I can tell you from that exactly what category of nation is really good at wrecking things..
As Putin stated recently, We don't need to do anything. They are doing a good enough job of destroying themselves without our help. I don't remember the exact quote but this was the gist of it.
I also listened to Lara Logan’s interview and explanation. Her reputation as an honest and truthful investigative reporter has a long history. It’s why her sources trust her and she’s usually able to verify. Her explanation is credible and worthy of your attention.
There are no coincidences. This was planned. Why would Biden immediately walk to the podium and state that tax dollars will rebuild the bridge. Insurance would normally cover costs. They don't want anyone to investigate.
Bingo. Why should the Federal Government (we taxpayers!) pay for this extremely expensive 'accident' caused by the Dali? We need an objective investigation!!
Interestingly, Lloyd’s of London just came out and said it is unusual for everything in this event to be fully covered by insurance, yet they are. To those of us who have seen this before, no big surprise. They do it openly because they can get away with it.
Hacked, Hacked, Our government will never tell us the truth! Sadly we will find out years from now at a congressional hearing, after the republicans fioa for information, the radical Dems will lie and cover!!!!
The volume of smoke coming from the stacks indicates that engine power is being engaged, executing the turn/rudder adjustment. No one seems to be mentioning this simple fact.
I think the loss of power would have been an electrical problem. The engine(s) would have been running. I have no idea how many engines a ship like that has—four? Eight? Plus the generator and backup generator. Typically, they can be run together or individually. So they would almost certainly have had power, but probably no way to utilize it. Either way, there should be a manual steering override in “aft steering.”
Lights turning off and on are not a definitive indication of an "electrical problem". The lights went off at about the time the course change was initiated. The 2nd time, was very shortly before impact. Seems perhaps a signal to someone, methinks.
We have been sailing under bridges for over 100 years…when i read the importance of the bridge and its’ name… all I can think is…oooooh say can you see by the dawns early light! America the beautiful needs to open her eyes to her demolition and ask herself the big why?
Look no further than the complicit and criminal WH occupants Ovomit and Obiden!!!! It's all under their direction with help of course from our criminal three letter agencies! They immediately came out saying it wasn't terrorism. Of course not. They planned it!!! They are joining the WEF in destroying America's food and fuel sources. Just look at other countries. We have a lot of catching up to do!!! Most people don't even know about all of the food processing facilities. farms, livestock producers, etc., having massive fires, including instrumental factories. It's all arson. We are under attack and most people don't pay attention.
And I know some who do see it, but who stubbornly refused to consider that these things are anything more than accidents or coincidences. I have friends like that. It’s very frustrating!
Dr. McCullough - I warned you about having this conspiracy theorist freak show on your blog. He will destroy your credibility. I happen to be a sailor with all 4 certs I need to sail any boat up to 60 ft anywhere in the world. While I don't drive big cargo ships, what happened here is obvious to anyone who knows how to run a boat/ship.
1. When the power goes out, the boat loses 'steerage way' and this clearly happened. They have no ability to steer the boat and it drifts out of control due to the rudder not having power, and the ship not having enough momentum to be steered. It's a 1000ft ship, maneuvering it at slow speed is a bear.
2. When the power comes back on you and then goes out again you see a big direction change. Two reasons for that. The rudder is powered and is now responding to inputs from the helm it hasn't processed and may be executing a standard maneuver of the rudder that is programmed in. They also put full reverse power on, which will change the direction.
3. It also appears they dropped an anchor, a last ditch solution and one that is not terribly helpful but can maybe help. If it caught it may have swerved the boat into the piling.
That's the evidence we have now. No experienced sailor would look at that video and conclude its intentional - none. Now, it may be that it was and we need to investigate and get the facts to see if that's true. But there is nothing on the face of this incident that looks intentional.
Letting rabid conspiracy spewing freaks on your blog makes me doubt YOUR credibility, Dr. Wake the hell up. Stop drifting into politics of the worst sort.
The only conspiracy theorist here is that guy LOL. He’s got the wildest conspiracy theory of all time - that the government and MSM can say definitively within hours that they know for sure 100% that there’s nothing to see here and we’re all crazy for thinking there could possibly be something criminal with this incident, no investigation even required. Y’all just a bunch of batty second-gunman-on-the-grassy-knoll types. Wild brah, wild!
Substack needs a RemindMe! function like Reddit so I can be reminded in 6 months about how this post aged.
I get where you are coming from Cap, but there is not ONE damn thing the doc can do about what people of various backgrounds, intelligence, and knowledge will say at any given moment.
Most readers DO realize that and take things with a grain of salt or two or. . . !
You make good points and I agree that until the basics are cleared it is pointless to hypothesize about everything on God's green earth happening.
We are all amused at you , antagonizing, attempting a war of words, throwing credentials around suggesting we should believe an “expert” not what can be simply and clearly seen by our own eyes. Can you spell gullible in capital letters too?
Auxilliary diesel gensets are designed to start automatically upon loss of main power. There are two large aux diesel gensets on the ship. So we’re talking failure of 2 backup safety systems and the bowthruster after failure of primary power and rudder steering. And then for that unfortunate and seemingly improbable sequence of events to put the massive ship on track to deliver a fatal blow to the bridge. Curious indeed. It’s going to take more than a bit of hand-waving to get to the bottom of this one, my friend.
Wow, the internet really is cancer. I'm going to do you and other insane people on this thread the service of breaking down what likely happened from an evidence based POV. You can continue to bray and make an absolute fool of yourself if you like.
1. First off, most of you are looking at a low res video taken at night that is very deceptive. To understand what actually happened you need to look at the GPS plot. The movement towards the pillar was not nearly as dramatic as it seems in the video. Here's a video from an expert in shipping and these ships covering it in detail .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPRz7wk3WY&t=12s Watch the gps plot.
2. There is an initial loss of power about 5 mins before the collision that last two minutes or so. The ship clearly begins to drift to starboard at this time. They have no rudder control.
3. The power comes back on but not completely in a couple of minutes (listen to the video). The steaming light didn't come on. This is likely the generator(s) kicking in. They take time to start and do not power anywhere near all ship systems. They do have rudder back but not seem to have no control. The only way to figure out what happens at this point is to go through the VDS, which is the maritime equivalent of an airliner's 'black box'. What rudder commands were given? How as the rudder responding? Example: On startup, there could be a preprogrammed routine the rudder goes through. It's not just an on/off switch and once drifting restoring control on a big boat/ship isn't instantaneous. This is an 86 ton ship EMPTY...1000 ft long. It will not instantly respond to the rudder and it make take time for the rudder to be ready to use once the generators power it. Without more info, we simply don't know what happened. But if you look carefully, you'll see the boat is veering back every so slightly to port, away from the pillar. This is evidence that they were steering away from the pillar.
4. You then see smoke from the stacks. They are likely using the generators to start the number one engine.
5. The power goes out again, likely due to the underlying problem not being addressed and revisited once the number one engine is actually started. They lose all power again. and rudder. You see the bow fall off to starboard again and then it's just a countdown to collision.
6. They run into the bridge. Take under 5 mins start to finish here, from the first problem.
There was a local pilot on the bridge, he ordered the port anchor dropped but that is actually a very sophisticated maneuver that takes a lot of room to execute. It had no effect in this instance.
The ridiculous and ignorant conspiracy theorizing about this event disgusts me. That such dreck appears on Dr. McCullough's blog makes me wonder about his steadiness and credibility.
One side effect of the COVID scandal is that we seem to have created a lot more conspiracy theorists....
It appears that all you’re considering is video evidence. You appear to have no experience or knowledge of the detailed design and operation of such systems. Whereas, I do. System safeguards are engineered into the system to prevent such massive failures from occurring. If a system failure occurs, there is a specific system-level engineering reason for it. We are far from understanding what that reason was. When multiple safeguards fail to work as designed, the cause often comes down to “human factors”…inadequate design, inadequate maintenance/testing, possible sabotage.
But he knows all about 60’ ships so surely that translates to 1000’ ships, right? And double plus good he’s mad at someone’s take on the matter. Without any evidence one way or the other.
It’s posts like his that make me suspicious. The absolute condescending certainty that there’s “nothing to see here, move along” before an investigation has even commenced. Who are these people parroting such certainty without concrete data?
I bet this is going to age as well as the lab leak theory. And they wonder why no one believes anything.
What a load of BS that adds up to zero substance, son. There is a HIGH DEGREE OF AUTOMATION in today's ships that rely effing POWER to run. This was a complete power loss. You saw how the generators/backup system reacted, took about two mins for them to get fired up and generate power. There was no power to run any of the automation that protects ships from this kind of catastrophe. Those safety systems can fail, they can be overwhelmed by other failures. I'm amazed at your glibness, since as you note you have no idea what happened on that ship and seem to have no ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE of that ship or its systems. You are just speculating.
What's most silly about you, Tommy, is that you miss that the "massive failure" you claim can't happen actually happened. The DoT has the VDS now and is confirming that my account of events is correct, you loudmouthed midwit.
Up to 60 feet? That's a commercial trawler not a ship. You don't even understand the basics of mass involved in a ship this size. The direction of travel and distance it will continue on course is exponential to the size of the boat. Comparing a 60 foot rowboat to this ship shows how little you actually know.
Not a trawler, you moron. It's a 1000 ft cargo ship. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Trawler is a slang name for a fishing vessel. And I never compared it to a 60 ft ship, you moron. My God, this thread just keeps getting worse.
You definitely said you had piloted boats up 60 feet and thus presented yourself as an "expert" . I wouldn't be surprised if you had to go look up the difference between port and starboard. I strongly suspect your experience is from sitting in an armchair reading a book. I grew up on the ocean and spent over twenty years off shore. What's your real experience?
You don't even know when you are lying. In my entire commentary here I've said numerous times that I've never driven a big ship like that. I did offer that I have expertise, and 4 international certifications that allow me to captain any sailing vessel anywhere in the world that is under 60 feet. My expertise lies in understanding piloting, navigation, systems etc. It's quite relevant.
That you presume I'm making it all up is based on your psychological issues, not my life. I've been boating since I was a kid and also have years of racing and formal sailboat training. I have all the U.S. Sailing certificates required to non-commercially operate a vessel up to 60 feet anywhere on Earth. I had to pass a lot of tests, much of it on navigation, boat handling, systems, troubleshooting etc. Hence why I can see some of what was happening here.
I asked earlier, have you ever lost propulsion in a channel and then lost steerage way? Have you ever had an electrical failure on a boat? I have. While a 1000 ft vessel is obviously much more complex, many of the concepts about what is happening are similar. You'll also note that in the evidence based analysis I offered, I cited an authority on cargo ships and shipping.
That you can't process any of this isn't my problem, Petey. Grow up.
Ya. Most non-sailors also don't realize that the chain is what keeps a boat at anchor, which is why we let out 5-7:1 scope. The anchor needs to be pulled laterally, not vertically, to hook into the bottom anyway.
Mike Adams HRR report from yesterday gave a 8X playing of the video that most of us have seen. From that perspective, it is completely clear that the veering was massive, and could not have been accidental. The question remains who is responsible. He was hypothesizing that it was a cyber attack on the ships navigation system, which then forced the rudder to make the dramatic turn. We do note that this was very soon after the Russian terrorist attack, which they might feel we were responsible for, in any event a very devastating blow to our infrastructure, and all indications are we’re going to see more of this.
To me, this event makes perfect sense as the punch back for the Moscow attack. The Russians are the experts at cyber and the WEF has been working with them on the whole issue of cyber attacks.
Now we have the two minutes of missing data just before the hit, because of course the fully insured ship (previously seen running into a dock), loses data recording when the power goes out, can only record audio. I wonder if their insurance rates were raised after it hit that dock in an earlier video shown online.
I can debunk this instantly. Go look at the video (ignore all the other substantive points I've made, lol) and look just after the power comes back on and the smoke is coming out. You'll note the boat is veering to port in the last moments slightly. This would correspond to the rudder being activated by the crew to avoid the pillar. You also clearly know nothing about piloting any boat, so why don't you just shut up?
Do you realize how insane you've become? Even if I'm correct, it doesn't matter? Lol. The 'trolls' are those spreading wild conspiracy theories with no basis in evidence or reality. Did you read the account I posted upthread? It's fact/evidence based and cites a known expert on these matters. The rest of the commentary here is mostly hyperbole. How could you miss this? Do facts not matter to you at all anymore?
Why didn't he just hold his course in the channel and safely under the bridge? He had sufficient speed and rudder control to hold his course. Regards, JSL
Exactly, Peter!!!! I said this immediately!!! He turned right into it without any hesitation. Too many people are trying to find an excuse. It was INTENTIONAL!!!!!! Number 2 port for hazardous materials and a vital port for imports and exports!!! How convenient!
Peter, please stop speculating about things you don't understand. I patiently laid out my evidence based account and analysis, sourcing an expert on shipping and cargo ships. along with the gps plot and the video. He did not have rudder control. There was a total power loss. I explain this all upthread. That you ignore it and offer this facile comment is quite surprising. Read my account upthread and come back to me. You will realize how fact-free your comment is.
With ship's power out. I doubt the captain had rudder control. Rudder control has not been verified one way or another. If this ship had rudder control, then it is on the Harbor Master Pilot to dodge the FSK bridge pylons. Though with all lights n power out. There might have been very limited visibility of the FSK pylons
I have done the same in a channel when my motor stopped unexpectedly. Port anchor will pull to port, the correction he needed, trouble is in a boat that large the anchor doesn't have much effect and was dragged, probably across a sandy bottom. Drawback is it tends to swing the stern to starboard whereas the bow stays in the line of travel.
And it's my understanding the anchor doesn't just grab onto something. The chain just kind of holds the ship in place because it's so heavy, so at best it will provide some drag force. And it takes a while to deploy and straighten out to work as designed.
thanks for the videos and post Fred. Very interesting.
I am assuming the anchors are only on the bow, right?
In this situation it seems best anchor control would have been to also have anchors on BOTH sides of stern. Dropping both a starboard, stern anchor and port bow anchor, a LOT earlier, could most likely move bow to port, right? With NO stern anchors to drop. . . NOT good!
So, with only one damn screw(amazing, not two!).. . Full Reverse prop and hard-pushed, starboard rudder will not likely do much when you also have river current to fight.
First, the ship must have enough prop dwell time to achieve zero velocity relative to current, second, must have added dwell to overcome the current pull and start relative velocity upstream before absolute position affected at all. At some point much further upstream of the bridge, the pilot had no chance. His failure to assess this early enough caused the hit.
I understand bow thrusters were on this ship. Probably, so small in thrust they had no chance to make an effect, the reason, the reason(?) tugs are used for monster ships, right?
As to conspiracy theory for cyber attack: a LOT of knowledge about the ship's power, control, and anchor abilities, & current in this bay to model the exact POINT at which to kill power enabling an uncontrolled drift into the bridge foundation point is required-- it seems to me. In addition, something missed by everyone it appears, is the pylon about 300 yds(?) directly North of bridge foundation. The ship's drift, adroitly, is somehow able to rotate perfectly around that with its CW rotation pulling the bow around it moving bow towards bridge foundation. Hard to "plan" such a move while killing power purposefully!
It will be interesting to see what the final conclusion is.
In fact, on a large ship, using the anchor to stop in an emergency is entirely different as the forces are not relatively the same as on a cruising boat. If the anchor grabs immediately, it will rip a hole in the ship. Instead what is done on a large ship is that the anchor is dragged across the bottom to slow the ship and isn't allowed to fully anchor to the bottom. This maneuver would usually require miles of clear sea to accomplish. It was impossible in this case. Even though the pilot ordered it dropped. This is also a very challenging maneuver that is quite dangerous and never trained for, and has a low chance of success.
If the ship were in full reverse, it would be like backing up a trailer. Turn in the opposite direction. If you want to go starboard, turn the rudder to the port, and vice versa.
Also, a ship on water isn't like a truck on the road. There is no traction in the water. You can't speed up and slow down on a dime.
Not a mistake, rather just the issues dealing with a large vessel that lost power in a very dangerous situation. Look at my comments, on the vid you can see the ship veering to port slightly just before the collision. They lost propulsion and rudder and had almost no time to deal with any of it.
I remember losing my engine in a fairly narrow channel that was shallow on either side. I couldn't sail my way to safety as there was no wind. Within seconds I literally had no control over where the 45 ft cat I was sailing went. Of course we didn't panic. I just dropped the hook and anchored up for repairs. But unless you've felt this, I don't think you can understand. On a 1000 foot vessel? Magnified 100 fold - but not different in the essentials from what I experienced.
There was a very good explanation posted on Twitter by someone with 20+ yrs of experience. Should have saved it. It talked about WHY the backup generator would also fail under certain conditions. It made sense to someone who knows nothing. What the person described was basically the perfect storm of very bad circumstances. What is does NOT explain was why a ship that had known electrical issues was allowed to leave port before totally solving the problems.
This was a double shot across America's the bow, likely from the deep state who are working both tooth and nail to destroy America because the US Constitution is the only thing standing in the way of the abject slavery one-world-government planetary scale nightmare system they are implementing.
Shot 1) Destroying critical key infrastructure on a large American port.
Shot 2) The symbolism of the bridge named after the man who penned the "Star Spangled Banner", banner falling into the ocean, as they wish for America to do.
The writing is on the wall, America is being gutted both from within and without. Get prepared for the worst or get prepare to starve. But MOST of all, get your spiritual house in order immediately.
I’m really afraid of what this once beautiful nation will be after a summer of total destruction! Can Trump, as real CIC getanything in order to
control mass destruction?
Nancy, it's far too late to wait for a politician to save us, we must save ourselves. It's time to opt out of this sick system and build our own with gardening, community building, ending reliance on retailers, doing everything local. It's time to put the "common unity" back in community.
Agreed. But it would be nice to have a”leader” , other than God, for people to see and hear from.
Your reply reminds me of this quote:
"Everyone is looking for a savior, instead of looking in the mirror." -A Lunatic
You are that leader. You're also the one you've been waiting for.
I understand. At 80 yo, I guess I have to do more than work the elections! School Board meetings to start? Most neighbors here in surbubia are unaware of all the is happening. Same during the Plandemic, distancing, jabs, masks! All 5hought me a crazy conspiracy theorist, including my family. Discounted that I researched constantly! Plus I’ve been anti vaccs for many years for many reasons. More so now.
Courts corrupt, as every5hing.
Good for you, Nancy!! You are not a conspiracy theorist! They all have their heads in the sand! Thanks for helping at the Board of Elections!!! That’s very important!
Understood, my family was the same. It's a mad world we live in. If you would like some crowdsourced solutions to going local you can find quite a few here: https://tritorch.com/united#solutions
Thanks for being on the front lines of the truth war.
reminds me of the andes survivors from the early 70s, who, after the search was called off, decided to save themselves.
Gardening and avoiding retailers? I’m not holding my breath.
And dump supply chains.
Susan... "dump supply chains"? huh? how would we in fly-over country get our food and supplies? How would truck drivers exist? I say dump Amazon! They want to put all the other businesses out of business, just like in the lock downs, heck - it was probably Jeff Bezos idea!
Trains are the best way to move cargo long distance. How did you get food and supplies before NAFTA? They were produced locally. Time to do that again.
And yes, I do not patronize Amazon, shop locally!
Absolutely! Stop relying on fragile and massively complex systems (owned by those who seek to enslave you) for your survival, well-being, and piece of mind.
I think that economies in the west may require crashing . No Western governments in the American/ European, and Japanese. We may need guns to protect us from our government.
One fact really stands out for me. The US government has immediately stepped in and said they’ll pay for the rebuilding. Are the involved parties not privately insured?
If the government pays, THEY get to decide who gets paid for doing what.
This could all be a last giant shakedown before the Biden administration is voted out in November. Sweetheart contracts worth billions and millions quickly awarded to family members, friends and other associates of politicians and donors with little scrutiny and much urgency.
Looks to me like the nearby seaport of Wilmington, Delaware has the most to gain from this. Delaware….hmmm, which US politician has close personal ties to Delaware????
Are US politicians crooked enough to do something like this…destroy billions of $$ of our own critical infrastructure for personal gain??? That would be an act of war against our own country.
I agree that the course change was anomalous, I agree with the economic fallout and the sentimental symbolism, I suggest also that the timing of this event following Crocus City Hall is serendipitously coincident: a cybernetic hack supposed to come from Moscow in revenge for the aforementioned. Modifying the latter, a fake flag event causing both real and psychosocial damage: for which, an inspection of various media chats might help confirm/deny.
Inserting a self-powered timed relay into some control circuitry might not be too difficult (except for Russians!).
My gratitude to the authors of this substack for this and all their other hard work and social contributions.
This is a perfect distraction from the atrocity a Crocus city hall. Not to mention that the Russians believe they have evidence of U.S./CIA involvement in that horrendous affair.
The Russians will do things in their own way and in their own time.
They are busy making friends with a lot of nations recently (or earlier) disenchanted with the "Anglo-American Establishment".
For the Russians to go about wrecking things like bridges, pipelines, etcetera, would put all those friendship projects at serious risk.
I used to watch Saturday Morning Cinema, often WWII, films when I were a kid. I can tell you from that exactly what category of nation is really good at wrecking things..
As Putin stated recently, We don't need to do anything. They are doing a good enough job of destroying themselves without our help. I don't remember the exact quote but this was the gist of it.
It's hard to see how this isn't a hacker job by such a party as you describe. If you can take over a car remotely, you can take over a ship.
This same ship DALI did incredible damage at another but foreign port.
Which port?
Antwerp; and it wasn’t significant damage.
Thank you.
"I remain extremely puzzled by this wildly anomalous collision. "
You are not alone John.
Me three.
I will second that.
John,
Have you read the investigative report from Lara Logan? I suggest everyone read it. Come to your own conclusions.
I also listened to Lara Logan’s interview and explanation. Her reputation as an honest and truthful investigative reporter has a long history. It’s why her sources trust her and she’s usually able to verify. Her explanation is credible and worthy of your attention.
Yes, her sources are telling her this was a cyber attack
Thanks for the suggestion—will look for it.
There are no coincidences. This was planned. Why would Biden immediately walk to the podium and state that tax dollars will rebuild the bridge. Insurance would normally cover costs. They don't want anyone to investigate.
Bingo. Why should the Federal Government (we taxpayers!) pay for this extremely expensive 'accident' caused by the Dali? We need an objective investigation!!
We tax payers have been footing the bills for lots of things lately that is not our responsibility.
“They don’t want anyone to investigate.”
Sounds right to me.
Interestingly, Lloyd’s of London just came out and said it is unusual for everything in this event to be fully covered by insurance, yet they are. To those of us who have seen this before, no big surprise. They do it openly because they can get away with it.
Twin Towers plus #7
Hacked, Hacked, Our government will never tell us the truth! Sadly we will find out years from now at a congressional hearing, after the republicans fioa for information, the radical Dems will lie and cover!!!!
See Lara Logan’s conclusion, with input from a source in the intelligence community…makes sense to me. Watch full video on Steve Bannon’s Warroom.
Lara Logan MUST be watched!!!
And Bannon almost mute for 13 minutes was funny
The volume of smoke coming from the stacks indicates that engine power is being engaged, executing the turn/rudder adjustment. No one seems to be mentioning this simple fact.
smoke had to do with their restarting of engines, the air to fuel mixture. It is a characteristic of starting large marine diesels.
I think the loss of power would have been an electrical problem. The engine(s) would have been running. I have no idea how many engines a ship like that has—four? Eight? Plus the generator and backup generator. Typically, they can be run together or individually. So they would almost certainly have had power, but probably no way to utilize it. Either way, there should be a manual steering override in “aft steering.”
Lights turning off and on are not a definitive indication of an "electrical problem". The lights went off at about the time the course change was initiated. The 2nd time, was very shortly before impact. Seems perhaps a signal to someone, methinks.
Loss of electricity wouldn't necessarily kill the engines. Diesels run on compression not spark.
Well they should have a LOT of things. . . Maybe a second screw would have been handy!
One prop on that monster!
full steam in reverse.
Exactly. It’s what you see all the time on the highway when a diesel engine gets dumped with fuel/air all at once.
We have been sailing under bridges for over 100 years…when i read the importance of the bridge and its’ name… all I can think is…oooooh say can you see by the dawns early light! America the beautiful needs to open her eyes to her demolition and ask herself the big why?
Look no further than the complicit and criminal WH occupants Ovomit and Obiden!!!! It's all under their direction with help of course from our criminal three letter agencies! They immediately came out saying it wasn't terrorism. Of course not. They planned it!!! They are joining the WEF in destroying America's food and fuel sources. Just look at other countries. We have a lot of catching up to do!!! Most people don't even know about all of the food processing facilities. farms, livestock producers, etc., having massive fires, including instrumental factories. It's all arson. We are under attack and most people don't pay attention.
And I know some who do see it, but who stubbornly refused to consider that these things are anything more than accidents or coincidences. I have friends like that. It’s very frustrating!
I do as well, and one day they will have a wake up call and it will be too late for them.
Most are more concerned about a silly sporting event or a concert of some worn out rock band/pop “star”
They can’t be bothered with how the country is falling apart all around them.
Dr. McCullough - I warned you about having this conspiracy theorist freak show on your blog. He will destroy your credibility. I happen to be a sailor with all 4 certs I need to sail any boat up to 60 ft anywhere in the world. While I don't drive big cargo ships, what happened here is obvious to anyone who knows how to run a boat/ship.
1. When the power goes out, the boat loses 'steerage way' and this clearly happened. They have no ability to steer the boat and it drifts out of control due to the rudder not having power, and the ship not having enough momentum to be steered. It's a 1000ft ship, maneuvering it at slow speed is a bear.
2. When the power comes back on you and then goes out again you see a big direction change. Two reasons for that. The rudder is powered and is now responding to inputs from the helm it hasn't processed and may be executing a standard maneuver of the rudder that is programmed in. They also put full reverse power on, which will change the direction.
3. It also appears they dropped an anchor, a last ditch solution and one that is not terribly helpful but can maybe help. If it caught it may have swerved the boat into the piling.
That's the evidence we have now. No experienced sailor would look at that video and conclude its intentional - none. Now, it may be that it was and we need to investigate and get the facts to see if that's true. But there is nothing on the face of this incident that looks intentional.
Letting rabid conspiracy spewing freaks on your blog makes me doubt YOUR credibility, Dr. Wake the hell up. Stop drifting into politics of the worst sort.
......OBNOXIOUS much? RHETORICAL question, that.....
The only conspiracy theorist here is that guy LOL. He’s got the wildest conspiracy theory of all time - that the government and MSM can say definitively within hours that they know for sure 100% that there’s nothing to see here and we’re all crazy for thinking there could possibly be something criminal with this incident, no investigation even required. Y’all just a bunch of batty second-gunman-on-the-grassy-knoll types. Wild brah, wild!
Substack needs a RemindMe! function like Reddit so I can be reminded in 6 months about how this post aged.
Silly me, I think spewing spurious conspiracy theories WITH NO EVIDENCE OR EXPERTISE is OBNOXIOUS.
I get where you are coming from Cap, but there is not ONE damn thing the doc can do about what people of various backgrounds, intelligence, and knowledge will say at any given moment.
Most readers DO realize that and take things with a grain of salt or two or. . . !
You make good points and I agree that until the basics are cleared it is pointless to hypothesize about everything on God's green earth happening.
In the meantime-- peace.
The Dali has a bow thruster. Doesn’t need the rudder to turn and can turn without any forward velocity. Also has two large aux diesel gensets.
Giggling. The bow thruster needs power, you ignoramus. The power failed, the gensets were not generating power. What's wrong with you?
We are all amused at you , antagonizing, attempting a war of words, throwing credentials around suggesting we should believe an “expert” not what can be simply and clearly seen by our own eyes. Can you spell gullible in capital letters too?
Auxilliary diesel gensets are designed to start automatically upon loss of main power. There are two large aux diesel gensets on the ship. So we’re talking failure of 2 backup safety systems and the bowthruster after failure of primary power and rudder steering. And then for that unfortunate and seemingly improbable sequence of events to put the massive ship on track to deliver a fatal blow to the bridge. Curious indeed. It’s going to take more than a bit of hand-waving to get to the bottom of this one, my friend.
Wow, the internet really is cancer. I'm going to do you and other insane people on this thread the service of breaking down what likely happened from an evidence based POV. You can continue to bray and make an absolute fool of yourself if you like.
1. First off, most of you are looking at a low res video taken at night that is very deceptive. To understand what actually happened you need to look at the GPS plot. The movement towards the pillar was not nearly as dramatic as it seems in the video. Here's a video from an expert in shipping and these ships covering it in detail .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPRz7wk3WY&t=12s Watch the gps plot.
2. There is an initial loss of power about 5 mins before the collision that last two minutes or so. The ship clearly begins to drift to starboard at this time. They have no rudder control.
3. The power comes back on but not completely in a couple of minutes (listen to the video). The steaming light didn't come on. This is likely the generator(s) kicking in. They take time to start and do not power anywhere near all ship systems. They do have rudder back but not seem to have no control. The only way to figure out what happens at this point is to go through the VDS, which is the maritime equivalent of an airliner's 'black box'. What rudder commands were given? How as the rudder responding? Example: On startup, there could be a preprogrammed routine the rudder goes through. It's not just an on/off switch and once drifting restoring control on a big boat/ship isn't instantaneous. This is an 86 ton ship EMPTY...1000 ft long. It will not instantly respond to the rudder and it make take time for the rudder to be ready to use once the generators power it. Without more info, we simply don't know what happened. But if you look carefully, you'll see the boat is veering back every so slightly to port, away from the pillar. This is evidence that they were steering away from the pillar.
4. You then see smoke from the stacks. They are likely using the generators to start the number one engine.
5. The power goes out again, likely due to the underlying problem not being addressed and revisited once the number one engine is actually started. They lose all power again. and rudder. You see the bow fall off to starboard again and then it's just a countdown to collision.
6. They run into the bridge. Take under 5 mins start to finish here, from the first problem.
There was a local pilot on the bridge, he ordered the port anchor dropped but that is actually a very sophisticated maneuver that takes a lot of room to execute. It had no effect in this instance.
The ridiculous and ignorant conspiracy theorizing about this event disgusts me. That such dreck appears on Dr. McCullough's blog makes me wonder about his steadiness and credibility.
One side effect of the COVID scandal is that we seem to have created a lot more conspiracy theorists....
It appears that all you’re considering is video evidence. You appear to have no experience or knowledge of the detailed design and operation of such systems. Whereas, I do. System safeguards are engineered into the system to prevent such massive failures from occurring. If a system failure occurs, there is a specific system-level engineering reason for it. We are far from understanding what that reason was. When multiple safeguards fail to work as designed, the cause often comes down to “human factors”…inadequate design, inadequate maintenance/testing, possible sabotage.
Wow, Tom.
Better man than most keeping your cool under a barrage of . . . whatever.
Kudos to you.
But he knows all about 60’ ships so surely that translates to 1000’ ships, right? And double plus good he’s mad at someone’s take on the matter. Without any evidence one way or the other.
It’s posts like his that make me suspicious. The absolute condescending certainty that there’s “nothing to see here, move along” before an investigation has even commenced. Who are these people parroting such certainty without concrete data?
I bet this is going to age as well as the lab leak theory. And they wonder why no one believes anything.
What a load of BS that adds up to zero substance, son. There is a HIGH DEGREE OF AUTOMATION in today's ships that rely effing POWER to run. This was a complete power loss. You saw how the generators/backup system reacted, took about two mins for them to get fired up and generate power. There was no power to run any of the automation that protects ships from this kind of catastrophe. Those safety systems can fail, they can be overwhelmed by other failures. I'm amazed at your glibness, since as you note you have no idea what happened on that ship and seem to have no ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE of that ship or its systems. You are just speculating.
What's most silly about you, Tommy, is that you miss that the "massive failure" you claim can't happen actually happened. The DoT has the VDS now and is confirming that my account of events is correct, you loudmouthed midwit.
Up to 60 feet? That's a commercial trawler not a ship. You don't even understand the basics of mass involved in a ship this size. The direction of travel and distance it will continue on course is exponential to the size of the boat. Comparing a 60 foot rowboat to this ship shows how little you actually know.
Not a trawler, you moron. It's a 1000 ft cargo ship. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Trawler is a slang name for a fishing vessel. And I never compared it to a 60 ft ship, you moron. My God, this thread just keeps getting worse.
You definitely said you had piloted boats up 60 feet and thus presented yourself as an "expert" . I wouldn't be surprised if you had to go look up the difference between port and starboard. I strongly suspect your experience is from sitting in an armchair reading a book. I grew up on the ocean and spent over twenty years off shore. What's your real experience?
You don't even know when you are lying. In my entire commentary here I've said numerous times that I've never driven a big ship like that. I did offer that I have expertise, and 4 international certifications that allow me to captain any sailing vessel anywhere in the world that is under 60 feet. My expertise lies in understanding piloting, navigation, systems etc. It's quite relevant.
That you presume I'm making it all up is based on your psychological issues, not my life. I've been boating since I was a kid and also have years of racing and formal sailboat training. I have all the U.S. Sailing certificates required to non-commercially operate a vessel up to 60 feet anywhere on Earth. I had to pass a lot of tests, much of it on navigation, boat handling, systems, troubleshooting etc. Hence why I can see some of what was happening here.
I asked earlier, have you ever lost propulsion in a channel and then lost steerage way? Have you ever had an electrical failure on a boat? I have. While a 1000 ft vessel is obviously much more complex, many of the concepts about what is happening are similar. You'll also note that in the evidence based analysis I offered, I cited an authority on cargo ships and shipping.
That you can't process any of this isn't my problem, Petey. Grow up.
Funny how when someone gets caught bullshitting they try to cover it up with bluster and insults. I won't waste any more of my time on you
You didn't catch me bullshitting, you delusional wingnut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPRz7wk3WY&t=330s
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13246079/Dali-cargo-ship-suffered-severe-electrical-problem-docked-Baltimore-days-prior-bridge-collapse-crash-saw-suffer-total-power-failure-loss-engine-failure-port-worker-says.html
Baltimore harbor has a sandy bottom (so I have read) so any anchor drop will not do much to slow this cargo carrier down.
Ya. Most non-sailors also don't realize that the chain is what keeps a boat at anchor, which is why we let out 5-7:1 scope. The anchor needs to be pulled laterally, not vertically, to hook into the bottom anyway.
A sudden and unexpected crash. Doctors are baffled.
Black Swan
Prepare to be baffled for the next 55 years as the clown show experts sort it all out. Whatever conclusion comes forth, it will not be the truth.
Mike Adams HRR report from yesterday gave a 8X playing of the video that most of us have seen. From that perspective, it is completely clear that the veering was massive, and could not have been accidental. The question remains who is responsible. He was hypothesizing that it was a cyber attack on the ships navigation system, which then forced the rudder to make the dramatic turn. We do note that this was very soon after the Russian terrorist attack, which they might feel we were responsible for, in any event a very devastating blow to our infrastructure, and all indications are we’re going to see more of this.
To me, this event makes perfect sense as the punch back for the Moscow attack. The Russians are the experts at cyber and the WEF has been working with them on the whole issue of cyber attacks.
Now we have the two minutes of missing data just before the hit, because of course the fully insured ship (previously seen running into a dock), loses data recording when the power goes out, can only record audio. I wonder if their insurance rates were raised after it hit that dock in an earlier video shown online.
Read my account upthread. You are engaging in fantasyworld nonsense and don't seem to realize it.
I can debunk this instantly. Go look at the video (ignore all the other substantive points I've made, lol) and look just after the power comes back on and the smoke is coming out. You'll note the boat is veering to port in the last moments slightly. This would correspond to the rudder being activated by the crew to avoid the pillar. You also clearly know nothing about piloting any boat, so why don't you just shut up?
Troll talk. Even if what you’re saying is correct which I seriously doubt.
Have to admit the guy has persistence.
Possibly a new type of AI engine?
Do you realize how insane you've become? Even if I'm correct, it doesn't matter? Lol. The 'trolls' are those spreading wild conspiracy theories with no basis in evidence or reality. Did you read the account I posted upthread? It's fact/evidence based and cites a known expert on these matters. The rest of the commentary here is mostly hyperbole. How could you miss this? Do facts not matter to you at all anymore?
Supposedly he dropped the port anchor, and I understood he was in full reverse, which could be affected by the rudder position. Maybe a mistake?
Why didn't he just hold his course in the channel and safely under the bridge? He had sufficient speed and rudder control to hold his course. Regards, JSL
I asked the same thing and someone posted the following detailed analysis based on the information currently available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPRz7wk3WY
Exactly, Peter!!!! I said this immediately!!! He turned right into it without any hesitation. Too many people are trying to find an excuse. It was INTENTIONAL!!!!!! Number 2 port for hazardous materials and a vital port for imports and exports!!! How convenient!
Lara Logan On The Francis Scott Key Bridge: "It Is A Financial And Economic Attack"
https://laralogan.substack.com/p/lara-logan-bannons-war-room-lara-27b
Lara Logan: The Media is Lying to You About What Really Happened to the Baltimore Bridge
https://laralogan.substack.com/p/lara-logan-the-charlie-kirk-show-fa1
Was the pilot in full control? I’d like to hear from him.
You’ll hear from him, right after they Epstein him.
Isn’t it interesting how we don’t hear from him?
Peter, please stop speculating about things you don't understand. I patiently laid out my evidence based account and analysis, sourcing an expert on shipping and cargo ships. along with the gps plot and the video. He did not have rudder control. There was a total power loss. I explain this all upthread. That you ignore it and offer this facile comment is quite surprising. Read my account upthread and come back to me. You will realize how fact-free your comment is.
With ship's power out. I doubt the captain had rudder control. Rudder control has not been verified one way or another. If this ship had rudder control, then it is on the Harbor Master Pilot to dodge the FSK bridge pylons. Though with all lights n power out. There might have been very limited visibility of the FSK pylons
I had the same question when that ship turned sideways two years ago.
I have done the same in a channel when my motor stopped unexpectedly. Port anchor will pull to port, the correction he needed, trouble is in a boat that large the anchor doesn't have much effect and was dragged, probably across a sandy bottom. Drawback is it tends to swing the stern to starboard whereas the bow stays in the line of travel.
And it's my understanding the anchor doesn't just grab onto something. The chain just kind of holds the ship in place because it's so heavy, so at best it will provide some drag force. And it takes a while to deploy and straighten out to work as designed.
thanks for the videos and post Fred. Very interesting.
I am assuming the anchors are only on the bow, right?
In this situation it seems best anchor control would have been to also have anchors on BOTH sides of stern. Dropping both a starboard, stern anchor and port bow anchor, a LOT earlier, could most likely move bow to port, right? With NO stern anchors to drop. . . NOT good!
So, with only one damn screw(amazing, not two!).. . Full Reverse prop and hard-pushed, starboard rudder will not likely do much when you also have river current to fight.
First, the ship must have enough prop dwell time to achieve zero velocity relative to current, second, must have added dwell to overcome the current pull and start relative velocity upstream before absolute position affected at all. At some point much further upstream of the bridge, the pilot had no chance. His failure to assess this early enough caused the hit.
I understand bow thrusters were on this ship. Probably, so small in thrust they had no chance to make an effect, the reason, the reason(?) tugs are used for monster ships, right?
As to conspiracy theory for cyber attack: a LOT of knowledge about the ship's power, control, and anchor abilities, & current in this bay to model the exact POINT at which to kill power enabling an uncontrolled drift into the bridge foundation point is required-- it seems to me. In addition, something missed by everyone it appears, is the pylon about 300 yds(?) directly North of bridge foundation. The ship's drift, adroitly, is somehow able to rotate perfectly around that with its CW rotation pulling the bow around it moving bow towards bridge foundation. Hard to "plan" such a move while killing power purposefully!
It will be interesting to see what the final conclusion is.
In fact, on a large ship, using the anchor to stop in an emergency is entirely different as the forces are not relatively the same as on a cruising boat. If the anchor grabs immediately, it will rip a hole in the ship. Instead what is done on a large ship is that the anchor is dragged across the bottom to slow the ship and isn't allowed to fully anchor to the bottom. This maneuver would usually require miles of clear sea to accomplish. It was impossible in this case. Even though the pilot ordered it dropped. This is also a very challenging maneuver that is quite dangerous and never trained for, and has a low chance of success.
If the ship were in full reverse, it would be like backing up a trailer. Turn in the opposite direction. If you want to go starboard, turn the rudder to the port, and vice versa.
Also, a ship on water isn't like a truck on the road. There is no traction in the water. You can't speed up and slow down on a dime.
Not a mistake, rather just the issues dealing with a large vessel that lost power in a very dangerous situation. Look at my comments, on the vid you can see the ship veering to port slightly just before the collision. They lost propulsion and rudder and had almost no time to deal with any of it.
I remember losing my engine in a fairly narrow channel that was shallow on either side. I couldn't sail my way to safety as there was no wind. Within seconds I literally had no control over where the 45 ft cat I was sailing went. Of course we didn't panic. I just dropped the hook and anchored up for repairs. But unless you've felt this, I don't think you can understand. On a 1000 foot vessel? Magnified 100 fold - but not different in the essentials from what I experienced.
There was a very good explanation posted on Twitter by someone with 20+ yrs of experience. Should have saved it. It talked about WHY the backup generator would also fail under certain conditions. It made sense to someone who knows nothing. What the person described was basically the perfect storm of very bad circumstances. What is does NOT explain was why a ship that had known electrical issues was allowed to leave port before totally solving the problems.
I stand with you, John.
Please keep at it on our behalf.
I remain skeptical and untrustworthy of the NTSB.