The NYT is to the left what the Koran is to Muslims. It is a wholistic document that the faithful and devout believe is the revealed word of God and has to be completely believed and adhered to. In the Koran, Jews, gays, and lesbians are an abomination to Allah and therefore must be killed as they are found. Every reference to Christians is pejorative and they and all other infidels are to be destroyed, or at least subjugated. The left is just like this, but towards conservatives, traditionalists, libertarians, Republicans, aka infidels, and leftists who still believe in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Western society. (These leftists are considered apostate and are even more guilty than the infidels, as they have received the revealed word of God from the NYT but do not believe it, somehow).
So, the leftists are on their own jihad and are totally fanatically committed to it, no matter the destruction and evil they perpetrate on others, and themselves.
I subscribed to WaPo and NYT for several years, holding them up to other sources. They were never great, but then they took a violent turn into the ditch four years ago and I quit them both. Not even for $2 a month would I go back.
It makes you wonder if the "followers" of the NYT ever did really think for themselves--as we used to assume, or did they always let news sources think for them, and consider the material the Times fed them to be illumined discourse and swallow it whole? The NYT poses itself as the paper of record, yet it was set up as a key organ of Operation Mockingbird. This became widely known to those who poked behind the curtain.
We humans are herd animals, and people in power will take advantage of that, herding them this way and that, even if they test high on an IQ test. True intelligence and perception are a wholly different thing than schooling or IQ.
Slow down there youngster! Sure the Millennials may have inched ahead of the Boomers as the largest generation, but there are still about 70 million of us kicking and we aren't all brainwashed zombies! Zombies come in all shapes, sizes and ages, and being urban and a consumer of propaganda is probably a more important contributing factor than age.
My parents generation are yellow dog democrats. They ate processed cheese and bologna, read the New York Times, took every pill prescribed by their doctors, and were never any of the things you described. To the contrary, very much appealed to authority.
My dad is the only one out of eight, including steps, between my husband and me, that had any discernment the past four years.
But then, my dad has always leaned more conservative. He still eats processed cheese.
My mom paid for her lack of discernment with three massive strokes.
<< These are the same people who were highly critical of the Iraq War in 2003, were fastidious about organic food and “wellness” instead of Big Pharma health “solutions,” and who regarded free speech as a core liberal value. What happened to them? What can account for their abandonment of their previous worldview? >>
John, you're describing something real, and I think about this a lot. I would propose that the wellness-type values and free speech were not anything they were especially committed to. The test of whether you love free speech is advocating for the expression of view you may despise.
As for wellness, this is just one trend after the next. Maybe these were the same people certain vitamin C would cure everything. Or was it vitamin D. Maybe it was Coenzyme Q10. This is all the same magical thinking that leads to the belief in vaccines. It is still a drug-based model. For that matter, so is "health food," because the presumption is that the substance makes the difference and not a whole-life approach, or state of mind.
Are you aware of the field of moral psychology, which has determined (approximately) that the political concept "conservative" translates to "disgusted person." So the measure of conservatism is one's disgust (which translates into biological matter, body fluids, etc.). So all someone has to do is get people disgusted and they morph into conservative.
Finally, we need to look at digital conditions. This has changed how people think of themselves and everything else. I was fortunate to know Eric McLuhan, son of Marshall. He wrote to me once, “The body is everywhere assaulted by all of our new media, a state which has resulted in deep disorientation of intellect and destabilization of culture throughout the world. In the age of disembodied communication, the meaning and significance and experience of the body is utterly transformed and distorted.”
So many people of my generation are chained to the NY Times. I'm embarrassed to say I was one of them until two and a half years ago. That's when I started following Dr. McCullough, Dr. Kory, Dr. Lawrie, Dr's. Weinstein & Heying, and other courageous truth-tellers.
After the whole weapons of mass destruction - Judith Miller - Scooter Libby debacle, I should have questioned the wisdom of relying on the NYTimes for news, but I didn't.
For the past couple years I have made numerous attempts to convince people the NY Times lies about nearly everything of substance. Most people in my circle remain unconvinced.
As I see it, there are two reasons the NY Times has such a grip on our society:
1. The writing in the NY Times is top-knotch. People have trouble believing propaganda comes in such an eloquent package.
2. The NY Times has snob appeal. If you read the NY Times, you are perceived as part of polite society. You are upper-crust.
All that said, I will continue my efforts to get people to wake up. For example, today I'll be sending people links to this excellent substack post.
They licked their finger and stuck it in the air to see which direction the wind was flowing and thought it best to go with the winds of change. The same people who used to persecute me and call me a faggot (which I am not) now persecute me and call me a homophobe.
Great that you're fighting for the truth! Interesting, and good, that so many that are fighting like you, like Kennedy, Wolf, Kory, Malone, Kirsch, Tamimi, and so many others are from the left. This gives me hope, though we are still in a death's struggle against the orcs of the Uniparty.
BTW, did you see the video of Obama going into 10 Downing earlier today. No doubt to give Sunak his march orders in the Great Reset.
Remember what Churchill said: never, never, ever, give up the fight!
It still Doesn’t answer the question for me is how anti CIA, ACLU loving, war hating Libs switched on a dime. I find it unfathomable. Gay stuff was like that too. One day everyone hated gays. A year later everyone was thrilled their som was gay. About 30 years ago I knew some gay activists. They laid into me about gay marriage. I was somewhat opposed. But I have enough libertarian in me to within a half hour of discussion say ‘yeah, if you want to, go ahead’. Which I reiterated to fellow open minded Canadians. Who jumped all over me. NO ONE WAS PRO GAY MARRIAGE. No one. About ten years later everyone switched. Overnight. And weirdly they refused to admit they used to think the opposite. ‘I have always been pro gay marriage. Always.’ No one was. Obama saying to Mitt ‘Mitt, the 90s are calling. They want their foreign policy back.’ Re Russia. Now? Russia is our enemy and always has been. Same group that sneered at Mitt Romney are all in with ‘stopping Russia in Europe so we don’t have to fight them here’.
Liberalism has more in common with totalitarianism than does the system that Trump advocates.
Totalitarians promote all power to the government.
That’s why liberals trust that vaccines mandates are correct.
Calling Trump a Nazi is actually a form of projection ( a psychological defense mechanism ).
Trump wasn’t going to mandate anything.
The liberals have more in common with The National Socialist German Workers’ Party, than any Trump supporter, due to the nature of socialism and the belief that government should rule the people.
Calling someone’s opinion that is different from yours, propaganda or disinformation is just one justification that is used to justify government interference in speech rights.
“The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen.” —Tom Smothers
The NYT is to the left what the Koran is to Muslims. It is a wholistic document that the faithful and devout believe is the revealed word of God and has to be completely believed and adhered to. In the Koran, Jews, gays, and lesbians are an abomination to Allah and therefore must be killed as they are found. Every reference to Christians is pejorative and they and all other infidels are to be destroyed, or at least subjugated. The left is just like this, but towards conservatives, traditionalists, libertarians, Republicans, aka infidels, and leftists who still believe in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Western society. (These leftists are considered apostate and are even more guilty than the infidels, as they have received the revealed word of God from the NYT but do not believe it, somehow).
So, the leftists are on their own jihad and are totally fanatically committed to it, no matter the destruction and evil they perpetrate on others, and themselves.
Danny Huckabee
Tell me this, John. Seriously. In the past few years, where on earth did you run into a “moderate liberal?”
As is ALL mainstream news from cable, TV, social media, magazines and radio.
I subscribed to WaPo and NYT for several years, holding them up to other sources. They were never great, but then they took a violent turn into the ditch four years ago and I quit them both. Not even for $2 a month would I go back.
It makes you wonder if the "followers" of the NYT ever did really think for themselves--as we used to assume, or did they always let news sources think for them, and consider the material the Times fed them to be illumined discourse and swallow it whole? The NYT poses itself as the paper of record, yet it was set up as a key organ of Operation Mockingbird. This became widely known to those who poked behind the curtain.
We humans are herd animals, and people in power will take advantage of that, herding them this way and that, even if they test high on an IQ test. True intelligence and perception are a wholly different thing than schooling or IQ.
My newly acquired Airedale puppy would not pee on the NYT. I had to purchase the WSJ to continue the housebreaking routine.
Slow down there youngster! Sure the Millennials may have inched ahead of the Boomers as the largest generation, but there are still about 70 million of us kicking and we aren't all brainwashed zombies! Zombies come in all shapes, sizes and ages, and being urban and a consumer of propaganda is probably a more important contributing factor than age.
My parents generation are yellow dog democrats. They ate processed cheese and bologna, read the New York Times, took every pill prescribed by their doctors, and were never any of the things you described. To the contrary, very much appealed to authority.
My dad is the only one out of eight, including steps, between my husband and me, that had any discernment the past four years.
But then, my dad has always leaned more conservative. He still eats processed cheese.
My mom paid for her lack of discernment with three massive strokes.
What happened to them is 'mass psychosis'. The process is outlined here:
https://michaelwarden.substack.com/p/the-witch-the-war-and-the-virus-part
<< These are the same people who were highly critical of the Iraq War in 2003, were fastidious about organic food and “wellness” instead of Big Pharma health “solutions,” and who regarded free speech as a core liberal value. What happened to them? What can account for their abandonment of their previous worldview? >>
John, you're describing something real, and I think about this a lot. I would propose that the wellness-type values and free speech were not anything they were especially committed to. The test of whether you love free speech is advocating for the expression of view you may despise.
As for wellness, this is just one trend after the next. Maybe these were the same people certain vitamin C would cure everything. Or was it vitamin D. Maybe it was Coenzyme Q10. This is all the same magical thinking that leads to the belief in vaccines. It is still a drug-based model. For that matter, so is "health food," because the presumption is that the substance makes the difference and not a whole-life approach, or state of mind.
Are you aware of the field of moral psychology, which has determined (approximately) that the political concept "conservative" translates to "disgusted person." So the measure of conservatism is one's disgust (which translates into biological matter, body fluids, etc.). So all someone has to do is get people disgusted and they morph into conservative.
Finally, we need to look at digital conditions. This has changed how people think of themselves and everything else. I was fortunate to know Eric McLuhan, son of Marshall. He wrote to me once, “The body is everywhere assaulted by all of our new media, a state which has resulted in deep disorientation of intellect and destabilization of culture throughout the world. In the age of disembodied communication, the meaning and significance and experience of the body is utterly transformed and distorted.”
Baby Boomer here.
So many people of my generation are chained to the NY Times. I'm embarrassed to say I was one of them until two and a half years ago. That's when I started following Dr. McCullough, Dr. Kory, Dr. Lawrie, Dr's. Weinstein & Heying, and other courageous truth-tellers.
After the whole weapons of mass destruction - Judith Miller - Scooter Libby debacle, I should have questioned the wisdom of relying on the NYTimes for news, but I didn't.
For the past couple years I have made numerous attempts to convince people the NY Times lies about nearly everything of substance. Most people in my circle remain unconvinced.
As I see it, there are two reasons the NY Times has such a grip on our society:
1. The writing in the NY Times is top-knotch. People have trouble believing propaganda comes in such an eloquent package.
2. The NY Times has snob appeal. If you read the NY Times, you are perceived as part of polite society. You are upper-crust.
All that said, I will continue my efforts to get people to wake up. For example, today I'll be sending people links to this excellent substack post.
They licked their finger and stuck it in the air to see which direction the wind was flowing and thought it best to go with the winds of change. The same people who used to persecute me and call me a faggot (which I am not) now persecute me and call me a homophobe.
Great that you're fighting for the truth! Interesting, and good, that so many that are fighting like you, like Kennedy, Wolf, Kory, Malone, Kirsch, Tamimi, and so many others are from the left. This gives me hope, though we are still in a death's struggle against the orcs of the Uniparty.
BTW, did you see the video of Obama going into 10 Downing earlier today. No doubt to give Sunak his march orders in the Great Reset.
Remember what Churchill said: never, never, ever, give up the fight!
Danny
It still Doesn’t answer the question for me is how anti CIA, ACLU loving, war hating Libs switched on a dime. I find it unfathomable. Gay stuff was like that too. One day everyone hated gays. A year later everyone was thrilled their som was gay. About 30 years ago I knew some gay activists. They laid into me about gay marriage. I was somewhat opposed. But I have enough libertarian in me to within a half hour of discussion say ‘yeah, if you want to, go ahead’. Which I reiterated to fellow open minded Canadians. Who jumped all over me. NO ONE WAS PRO GAY MARRIAGE. No one. About ten years later everyone switched. Overnight. And weirdly they refused to admit they used to think the opposite. ‘I have always been pro gay marriage. Always.’ No one was. Obama saying to Mitt ‘Mitt, the 90s are calling. They want their foreign policy back.’ Re Russia. Now? Russia is our enemy and always has been. Same group that sneered at Mitt Romney are all in with ‘stopping Russia in Europe so we don’t have to fight them here’.
Liberalism has more in common with totalitarianism than does the system that Trump advocates.
Totalitarians promote all power to the government.
That’s why liberals trust that vaccines mandates are correct.
Calling Trump a Nazi is actually a form of projection ( a psychological defense mechanism ).
Trump wasn’t going to mandate anything.
The liberals have more in common with The National Socialist German Workers’ Party, than any Trump supporter, due to the nature of socialism and the belief that government should rule the people.
Calling someone’s opinion that is different from yours, propaganda or disinformation is just one justification that is used to justify government interference in speech rights.
Mainstream Media and much of Alternative media is and has been Predator Controlled for at least the last 100 years.