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Towards the end of the interview John speculates on what it will take for the majority of people to wake up to the crimes against humanity that we've been and continue to be subjected to that have been unfolding since 2020. And perhaps even before then.

In 2020 as I realized that too many people I thought would've known better, who I tried to inform, wake up from what we were walking into from the earliest lockdown demands, the masking flip flops and subsequent demands, the BLM exception to protests and gatherings that everyone accepted and then returned to their obedient isolation, the transparently bogus, predictable and predicted vaccine mandates, as all of that was just beginning I lamented to those few who were listening and as befuddled as I that it would take a "bury the bodies" moment to shake the people from the horrors they refused to see and acknowledge were (and are still) happening all around us. War. Abusing and mutilating children. Famine. Died suddenly SADS.

Most people refuse to see, refuse to admit to themselves and others to this day that they've been deceived and therefor responsible for allowing it all to happen. Burying the bodies. That, sadly, is still what it's going to take. This, below in stories, pictures and videos. This is what it will take. And even for many, as with many Germans, burying the bodies won't be enough. They'll say it was staged by enemies of the regime they supported until the day they die, many Germans denying it until they died decades later. Some still living deny it.

German civilians forced to see real horrors of Nazi death camps after Allies ordered them to see atrocities

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/german-civilians-forced-see-real-11908228

How much did Germans know about the Holocaust?

https://www.britannica.com/video/180241/Residents-Weimar-concentration-camp-Germany-Buchenwald-Allies-1945

US VETERAN RAYMOND BUCH DESCRIBES FORCING CIVILIANS TO BURY THE DEAD

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/oral-history/us-veteran-raymond-buch-describes-forcing-civilians-to-bury-the-dead

German civilians prepare mass graves to bury the bodies of concentration camp prisoners killed by the SS in a barn just outside of Gardelegen.

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1037389

German civilians go to bury victims, supervised by the Ninth Army [Gardelegen]

https://witness.digitalscholarship.emory.edu/items/show/768#?c=&m=&s=&cv=&xywh=-81%2C-1%2C592%2C339

GERMAN CIVILIANS ARE FORCED TO TOUR BUCHENWALD (1945)

https://alphahistory.com/holocaust/german-civilians-buchenwald-1945/

GERMAN CIVILIANS FORCED TO VIEW ATROCITIES COMMITTED IN BUCHENWALD

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/film/german-civilians-forced-to-view-atrocities-committed-in-buchenwald

DORA-MITTELBAU: OVERVIEW - PHOTOGRAPH

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/gallery/dora-mittelbau-overview-photographs

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The elites feel we are offering our energy, money and resources to them freely. And why wouldn’t they? We do not put up a fight.

If 30% of the population stopped paying taxes, or objected to an unjust law, or arrest, or act, the elites would have to completely cease that activity.

But we don’t put up a fight.

We live in a rigged system, and we look like a bunch of fools using credit cards, buying into a rigged stock market, and signing up for poisonous vaccines. As much as we want to place blame on the “evil people” doing this to us, we never seem to accept responsibility for our own actions—or inactions. We just keep playing the game.

All people have innate power and we have the ability to stop being slaves to these people and to begin creating a better world. But we’d rather fall in line and follow rules.

We reap what we sow.

And they laugh at us.

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This is a great interview, the whole series of topics. The 'black widow' story- I know of a similar situation from that area, Grand Prairie. But, when you mention murders staged as suicides-- Would you ever consider investigating the deaths of Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington, and others? Those were not suicides. Depression is not despair, and neither presented with despair. They'd both overcome that. Too much was very shady, and some obvious malignant narcs involved. It would mean a lot to have Justice for them.~ Keep up All your work.~

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I understand what do you say John but these bureaucrats in WDC have interns who can read a 1000 pages bill, at less few pages each and they can afford it. Now I know that is not one bill only, and it is hard for those '"workers of the we the people" to keep up, but it is the way the system works because the system works for the attorneys (if you can remember the joke about the attorney arriving to Hell), notes apart, the solution would be restrict the amount of pages in the Bills with the thought that if a Bill needs so many pages to be explained what it is about, and what does included, cannot be good. The principle of clarity, simplecity and justification of the bill must prevail. Good interview~

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Another excellent interview of True Crime author, John Leake.

p.s., Regarding the Tipping Point, a conservative estimate of it is to put it at about a third (33% of society), and I'm confident that we are already past that point, but the digital censorship keeps us from acting in unison. In the movie, V for Vendetta, the government spy-van reported that the disapproval rate of the people against the leader was over 70% (and possibly over 80%; and maybe over 90%).

But when the report came back, it didn't phase the leader (that much opposition was already expected).

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